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Interesting looking at the MetO ensemble output today (not publicly
available) and the 12Z runs. Deep and stubborn very cold air over Greenland
continues to leak south reinforcing the jet and low-level baroclinic zone
maintaining the cold westerly type with a north-south gradient in
temperature. Already sleet has reached high ground in the SW with snow in
Wales. Over the next few days it looks like we will get some milder
interludes in the south as deep lows spin up in mid-Atlantic and buckle the
flow. Also the baroclinicity sinks south putting the UK bang in the firing
line for some rapid deepeners later on with cold air entrained, which will
be quite exciting! Only a small chance now of high pressure establishing
over UK or near continent. The picture is one of continuing cold zonality
with increased high potential vorticity (energy) in the flow.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
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On Dec 5, 5:24*pm, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Interesting looking at the MetO ensemble output today (not publicly
available) and the 12Z runs. Deep and stubborn very cold air over Greenland
continues to leak south reinforcing the jet and low-level baroclinic zone
maintaining the cold westerly type with a north-south gradient in
temperature. Already sleet has reached high ground in the SW with snow in
Wales. Over the next few days it looks like we will get some milder
interludes in the south as deep lows spin up in mid-Atlantic and buckle the
flow. Also the baroclinicity sinks south putting the UK bang in the firing
line for some rapid deepeners later on with cold air entrained, which will
be quite exciting! Only a small chance now of high pressure establishing
over UK or near continent. The picture is one of continuing cold zonality
with increased high potential vorticity (energy) in the flow.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Well I have to say Will just been out for my walk and it was bitter
which took me aback seeing how much of the Atlantic this air has been
over before it got here.

Truly Taters in Sydenahm with a cold bitter wind whistling through
Pound Land in the High Street. Better watch out for the Donar Kebabs
tonight -they good congeal very quickly and root people to bus stops
and the like.
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Lawrence13 wrote:
On Dec 5, 5:24 pm, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Interesting looking at the MetO ensemble output today (not publicly
available) and the 12Z runs. Deep and stubborn very cold air over Greenland
continues to leak south reinforcing the jet and low-level baroclinic zone
maintaining the cold westerly type with a north-south gradient in
temperature. Already sleet has reached high ground in the SW with snow in
Wales. Over the next few days it looks like we will get some milder
interludes in the south as deep lows spin up in mid-Atlantic and buckle the
flow. Also the baroclinicity sinks south putting the UK bang in the firing
line for some rapid deepeners later on with cold air entrained, which will
be quite exciting! Only a small chance now of high pressure establishing
over UK or near continent. The picture is one of continuing cold zonality
with increased high potential vorticity (energy) in the flow.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Well I have to say Will just been out for my walk and it was bitter
which took me aback seeing how much of the Atlantic this air has been
over before it got here.

Truly Taters in Sydenahm with a cold bitter wind whistling through
Pound Land in the High Street. Better watch out for the Donar Kebabs
tonight -they good congeal very quickly and root people to bus stops
and the like.

----------------
Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me. I'm going to
have to start wearing old peoples clothes to combat this now I've turned
61. Also my eyes won't stop watering, even when I get indoors. This
could also be a "getting old" thing as the doctor says your tears don't
drain away so well and I might have to have the eye equivalent of a
stent in my tear duct. How long will my snow loving last? I've seen
others waver with age.
Dave
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On 05/12/2011 18:27, Dave Cornwell wrote:
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Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me. I'm going to
have to start wearing old peoples clothes to combat this now I've turned
61. Also my eyes won't stop watering, even when I get indoors. This
could also be a "getting old" thing as the doctor says your tears don't
drain away so well and I might have to have the eye equivalent of a
stent in my tear duct. How long will my snow loving last? I've seen
others waver with age.
Dave


I wavered when I was 17. That was in the dim and distant '70s.

T
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In article ,
Dave Cornwell writes:
Well I have to say Will just been out for my walk and it was
bitter
which took me aback seeing how much of the Atlantic this air has been
over before it got here.
Truly Taters in Sydenahm with a cold bitter wind whistling
through
Pound Land in the High Street. Better watch out for the Donar Kebabs
tonight -they good congeal very quickly and root people to bus stops
and the like.

----------------
Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me. I'm going
to have to start wearing old peoples clothes to combat this now
I've turned 61. Also my eyes won't stop watering, even when I get
indoors. This could also be a "getting old" thing as the doctor says
your tears don't drain away so well and I might have to have the
eye equivalent of a stent in my tear duct. How long will my snow
loving last? I've seen others waver with age.
Dave


I may have to dig out my woolly hat. For the first time this winter,
when I went out for my newspaper at 8am I noticed my ears feeling cold.
Apart from that it didn't seem too bad. Perhaps the wind has
strengthened since then? (Not exactly a WR, but Cranleigh, Surrey if
anyone ies curious.)
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw


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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Lawrence13 wrote:
On Dec 5, 5:24 pm, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Interesting looking at the MetO ensemble output today (not publicly
available) and the 12Z runs. Deep and stubborn very cold air over
Greenland
continues to leak south reinforcing the jet and low-level baroclinic
zone
maintaining the cold westerly type with a north-south gradient in
temperature. Already sleet has reached high ground in the SW with snow
in
Wales. Over the next few days it looks like we will get some milder
interludes in the south as deep lows spin up in mid-Atlantic and buckle
the
flow. Also the baroclinicity sinks south putting the UK bang in the
firing
line for some rapid deepeners later on with cold air entrained, which
will
be quite exciting! Only a small chance now of high pressure establishing
over UK or near continent. The picture is one of continuing cold
zonality
with increased high potential vorticity (energy) in the flow.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------


Well I have to say Will just been out for my walk and it was bitter
which took me aback seeing how much of the Atlantic this air has been
over before it got here.

Truly Taters in Sydenahm with a cold bitter wind whistling through
Pound Land in the High Street. Better watch out for the Donar Kebabs
tonight -they good congeal very quickly and root people to bus stops
and the like.

----------------
Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me. I'm going to
have to start wearing old peoples clothes to combat this now I've turned
61. Also my eyes won't stop watering, even when I get indoors. This could
also be a "getting old" thing as the doctor says your tears don't drain
away so well and I might have to have the eye equivalent of a stent in my
tear duct. How long will my snow loving last? I've seen others waver with
age.
Dave


Well my new sledge is in the garage waiting for my 59.5 year old body to get
on it and go careering down the hills. Hopefully Father Christmas will being
me some new walking shoes as well so I can go yomping in the Dartmoor snow
in the New Year. I want to be buried in a snow tomb when I finally go,
hopefully in a couple of decades or so yet, LOL :-)
Your'e as young as the woman you feel Dave! :-)

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
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On Dec 5, 7:02*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
*Dave Cornwell writes:





*Well I have to say Will just been out for my walk and it was
bitter
which took me aback seeing how much of the Atlantic this air has been
over before it got here.
*Truly Taters in Sydenahm with a cold bitter wind whistling
through
Pound Land in the High Street. Better watch out for the Donar Kebabs
tonight -they good congeal very quickly and root people to bus stops
and the like.

----------------
Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me. I'm going
to have to start wearing old peoples clothes to combat this now
I've turned 61. Also my eyes won't stop watering, even when I get
indoors. This could also be a "getting old" thing as the doctor says
your tears don't drain away so well and I might have to have the
eye equivalent of a stent in my tear duct. How long will my snow
loving last? I've seen others waver with age.
Dave


I may have to dig out my woolly hat. For the first time this winter,
when I went out for my newspaper at 8am I noticed my ears feeling cold.
Apart from that it didn't seem too bad. Perhaps the wind has
strengthened since then? (Not exactly a WR, but Cranleigh, Surrey if
anyone ies curious.)
--
John Hall
* * * * * * *"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
* * * * * * * by those who have not got it."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * George Bernard Shaw- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Colder today at last! The zonal train continues and we've had a change
for the colder. Nothing more on the horizon except oscillations
towards zonal cold. Nothing "very cold" anywhere in the UK, with
respect to daily averages at all. My overcoat was much needed first
thing this morning. Better this afternoon, but it's a whole load
better than this time last year!
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"there is no cold westerley"

ah defeat
how does it feel?


On 05/12/2011 8:14 PM, Dawlish wrote:

Colder today at last! The zonal train continues and we've had a change
for the colder. Nothing more on the horizon except oscillations
towards zonal cold. Nothing "very cold" anywhere in the UK, with
respect to daily averages at all. My overcoat was much needed first
thing this morning. Better this afternoon, but it's a whole load
better than this time last year!


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On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:27:06 +0000, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me.


It's a very lazy wind up here, goes right through you instead of
around. Give me some nice warm snow...

Had another inch or so over night, and a heavy dusting around 1800
this evening. Temperature has been hovering around freezing all day,
min -0.8C max 0.5C, just warm enough to fully clear the concrete
areas that I shovelled a couple of inches off this morning.

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.



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Eskimo Will wrote:

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Lawrence13 wrote:
On Dec 5, 5:24 pm, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Interesting looking at the MetO ensemble output today (not publicly
available) and the 12Z runs. Deep and stubborn very cold air over
Greenland
continues to leak south reinforcing the jet and low-level baroclinic
zone
maintaining the cold westerly type with a north-south gradient in
temperature. Already sleet has reached high ground in the SW with
snow in
Wales. Over the next few days it looks like we will get some milder
interludes in the south as deep lows spin up in mid-Atlantic and
buckle the
flow. Also the baroclinicity sinks south putting the UK bang in the
firing
line for some rapid deepeners later on with cold air entrained,
which will
be quite exciting! Only a small chance now of high pressure
establishing
over UK or near continent. The picture is one of continuing cold
zonality
with increased high potential vorticity (energy) in the flow.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm

Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Well I have to say Will just been out for my walk and it was bitter
which took me aback seeing how much of the Atlantic this air has been
over before it got here.

Truly Taters in Sydenahm with a cold bitter wind whistling through
Pound Land in the High Street. Better watch out for the Donar Kebabs
tonight -they good congeal very quickly and root people to bus stops
and the like.

----------------
Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me. I'm going to
have to start wearing old peoples clothes to combat this now I've
turned 61. Also my eyes won't stop watering, even when I get indoors.
This could also be a "getting old" thing as the doctor says your tears
don't drain away so well and I might have to have the eye equivalent
of a stent in my tear duct. How long will my snow loving last? I've
seen others waver with age.
Dave


Well my new sledge is in the garage waiting for my 59.5 year old body to
get on it and go careering down the hills. Hopefully Father Christmas
will being me some new walking shoes as well so I can go yomping in the
Dartmoor snow in the New Year. I want to be buried in a snow tomb when I
finally go, hopefully in a couple of decades or so yet, LOL :-)
Your'e as young as the woman you feel Dave! :-)

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

The secret if you want to walk pain free is don't play knee damaging
competitive sport till your 50! But I enjoyed it! I'm a por man's Ledley
King :-(


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