Well you all have the picture by now of a very disturbed week ahead with a
200 knot jet slamming into the UK. Something for everyone during the week,
rain, snow and stormy winds being the order of the day.
I'm worried particularly about next Friday because the potential is there
for a storm of greater ferocity than the one that battered Scotland last
week, track depends crucially on jet orientation, looks like a classic
Norwegian low and not Shapiro Keyser, so wind field will be larger. 00Z GFS
run (not to be taken literally) is awesome and shows destructive potential
with some very warm air from low latitude entrained initially which all
occludes out and condenses as rain/snow. Take care and keep an eye on the
MetO warnings. This storm will be focussing minds in Exeter for sure!

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On Dec 10, 9:42*am, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Well you all have the picture by now of a very disturbed week ahead with a
200 knot jet slamming into the UK. Something for everyone during the week,
rain, snow and stormy winds being the order of the day.
I'm worried particularly about next Friday because the potential is there
for a storm of greater ferocity than the one that battered Scotland last
week, track depends crucially on jet orientation, looks like a classic
Norwegian low and not Shapiro Keyser, so wind field will be larger. 00Z GFS
run (not to be taken literally) is awesome and shows destructive potential
with some very warm air from low latitude entrained initially which all
occludes out and condenses as rain/snow. Take care and keep an eye on the
MetO warnings. This storm will be focussing minds in Exeter for sure!

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Death and destruction notwithstanding, the usual usw disclaimer, I am
very excited about this low. Sat out in the Atlantic on Thursday
embedded in the flow of the Iceland low it looks very menacing. The
UKMet solution this morning doesn't look too nasty until you realise
a) I recall someone on here saying that the UKMet output is on a
coarser grid than the model resolution itself and b) how much it
deepens in 24 hours. GFS and EC certainly look fruity.

If it does come off then tremendous kudos to the models - we're
talking about this 6 days beforehand. Anyhow enough pontificating, I
have snow to enjoy here in Munich.

Richard

On 10/12/11 09:42, Eskimo Will wrote:
Well you all have the picture by now of a very disturbed week ahead with
a 200 knot jet slamming into the UK. Something for everyone during the
week, rain, snow and stormy winds being the order of the day.
I'm worried particularly about next Friday because the potential is
there for a storm of greater ferocity than the one that battered
Scotland last week, track depends crucially on jet orientation, looks
like a classic Norwegian low and not Shapiro Keyser, so wind field will
be larger. 00Z GFS run (not to be taken literally) is awesome and shows
destructive potential with some very warm air from low latitude
entrained initially which all occludes out and condenses as rain/snow.
Take care and keep an eye on the MetO warnings. This storm will be
focussing minds in Exeter for sure!

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

My fence got damaged in strong winds on Thursday evening so I am
concerned about this as I need to get it shored up. Otherwise there is a
risk of it blowing down on the neighbours car which would probably be an
insurance job (if it is covered) or very expensive for me.

In article ,
Adam Lea writes:
My fence got damaged in strong winds on Thursday evening so I
am concerned about this as I need to get it shored up. Otherwise
there is a risk of it blowing down on the neighbours car which
would probably be an insurance job (if it is covered) or very
expensive for me.

Can't you warn the neighbours in advance, and suggest that they park
their car somewhere else if strong winds are forecast nearer the time?
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

On Dec 10, 9:42*am, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Well you all have the picture by now of a very disturbed week ahead with a
200 knot jet slamming into the UK. Something for everyone during the week,
rain, snow and stormy winds being the order of the day.
I'm worried particularly about next Friday because the potential is there
for a storm of greater ferocity than the one that battered Scotland last
week, track depends crucially on jet orientation, looks like a classic
Norwegian low and not Shapiro Keyser, so wind field will be larger. 00Z GFS
run (not to be taken literally) is awesome and shows destructive potential
with some very warm air from low latitude entrained initially which all
occludes out and condenses as rain/snow. Take care and keep an eye on the
MetO warnings. This storm will be focussing minds in Exeter for sure!

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Agreed and good to see the possibilities being expressed fairly
sensibly. Nice to see Will getting excited about something other than
cold weather too. *))

On Dec 10, 10:56*am, Adam Lea wrote:
On 10/12/11 09:42, Eskimo Will wrote:





Well you all have the picture by now of a very disturbed week ahead with
a 200 knot jet slamming into the UK. Something for everyone during the
week, rain, snow and stormy winds being the order of the day.
I'm worried particularly about next Friday because the potential is
there for a storm of greater ferocity than the one that battered
Scotland last week, track depends crucially on jet orientation, looks
like a classic Norwegian low and not Shapiro Keyser, so wind field will
be larger. 00Z GFS run (not to be taken literally) is awesome and shows
destructive potential with some very warm air from low latitude
entrained initially which all occludes out and condenses as rain/snow.
Take care and keep an eye on the MetO warnings. This storm will be
focussing minds in Exeter for sure!

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

My fence got damaged in strong winds on Thursday evening so I am
concerned about this as I need to get it shored up. Otherwise there is a
risk of it blowing down on the neighbours car which would probably be an
insurance job (if it is covered) or very expensive for me.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You can always strengthen temporarily with timber nails and stakes. Is
it a timber feather edged?

Unfortunately you can't do the same with slate roofs

On Dec 10, 11:27*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Dec 10, 9:42*am, "Eskimo Will" wrote:

Well you all have the picture by now of a very disturbed week ahead with a
200 knot jet slamming into the UK. Something for everyone during the week,
rain, snow and stormy winds being the order of the day.
I'm worried particularly about next Friday because the potential is there
for a storm of greater ferocity than the one that battered Scotland last
week, track depends crucially on jet orientation, looks like a classic
Norwegian low and not Shapiro Keyser, so wind field will be larger. 00Z GFS
run (not to be taken literally) is awesome and shows destructive potential
with some very warm air from low latitude entrained initially which all
occludes out and condenses as rain/snow. Take care and keep an eye on the
MetO warnings. This storm will be focussing minds in Exeter for sure!

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Agreed and good to see the possibilities being expressed fairly
sensibly. Nice to see Will getting excited about something other than
cold weather too. *))


Why do you post to a weather group if you don't get excited by
weather. Of course it's worrying, I have an original slate roofmfacing
west and east so on the western side I could easily loose a few if the
winds were strong enough. Howevr I still get excited by extremes
regardless. There's almost a pioneering sprit that comes out in many
of us as we prepare to batten down the hatches.

On Dec 10, 9:42*am, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Well you all have the picture by now of a very disturbed week ahead with a
200 knot jet slamming into the UK. Something for everyone during the week,
rain, snow and stormy winds being the order of the day.
I'm worried particularly about next Friday because the potential is there
for a storm of greater ferocity than the one that battered Scotland last
week, track depends crucially on jet orientation, looks like a classic
Norwegian low and not Shapiro Keyser, so wind field will be larger. 00Z GFS
run (not to be taken literally) is awesome and shows destructive potential
with some very warm air from low latitude entrained initially which all
occludes out and condenses as rain/snow. Take care and keep an eye on the
MetO warnings. This storm will be focussing minds in Exeter for sure!

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

The gust probability product is the current ECMWF banner

http://www.ecmwf.int/samples/d/inspe...!2011121000!!/

On 10/12/11 11:14, John Hall wrote:
In ,
Adam writes:
My fence got damaged in strong winds on Thursday evening so I
am concerned about this as I need to get it shored up. Otherwise
there is a risk of it blowing down on the neighbours car which
would probably be an insurance job (if it is covered) or very
expensive for me.

Can't you warn the neighbours in advance, and suggest that they park
their car somewhere else if strong winds are forecast nearer the time?

The neighbour potentially affected was the one who warned me about it,
so they are already aware.

I'm concerned I would be liable for any damage incurred if it did fail
completely. Unfortunately I don't think there is time to have the fence
replaced. I am considering doing what Lawrence suggests and try to add
extra support to it, or else remove the fence panels completely.

Adam Lea scrive:

I'm concerned I would be liable for any damage incurred if it did fail
completely. Unfortunately I don't think there is time to have the fence
replaced. I am considering doing what Lawrence suggests and try to add
extra support to it, or else remove the fence panels completely.

Your property insurance should include liability for damage to third
parties and so you would not be personally liable. Your neighbour's car
is no doubt also insured against damage. All in all, not a lot to worry
about.



--
Gianna
Peterhead, Scotland

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