http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18678659#TWEET167666

According the Met Office, this has been the wettest June on record in the UK.

I do wish they would specify where the data comes from, because many parts of the UK have only had their wettest July since 2007, and there are those stations in the far north, with well below average rainfall, if I am not mistaken.

A broad brush approach to excite the media is disappointing IMHO.

Steve J

On Jul 2, 6:30*pm, Steve Jackson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18678659#TWEET167666

According the Met Office, this has been the wettest June on record in the UK.

I do wish they would specify where the data comes from, because many parts of the UK have only had their wettest July since 2007, and there are those stations in the far north, with well below average rainfall, if I am not mistaken.

A broad brush approach to excite the media is disappointing IMHO.

Steve J

Trouble is that the MO keeps moving the goalposts. Eny fule kno that
accurate rainfall records go back at least a centuryr than 1910-but
the MO refuses to refer to them. It's a bit like the balance of
payments statistics. They go back 60y at least but statistical
comparisons are only quoted back 20y or so-does anybody know why?

On 02/07/12 18:30, Steve Jackson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18678659#TWEET167666

According the Met Office, this has been the wettest June on record in the UK.

I do wish they would specify where the data comes from, because many parts of the UK have only had their wettest July since 2007, and there are those stations in the far north, with well below average rainfall, if I am not mistaken.

A broad brush approach to excite the media is disappointing IMHO.

Steve J

It is probably some sort of spatial average over the UK. May be worth
asking them.

On Monday, July 2, 2012 7:43:06 PM UTC+1, Adam Lea wrote:

It is probably some sort of spatial average over the UK. May be worth
asking them.

Yes Adam, you are right, but shouldn't they tell us in the article how the spatial mean is worked out, over what area of the UK?

This is a bit of Daily Expressism from the Met Office!

Steve J

On 02/07/2012 20:17, Steve Jackson wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2012 7:43:06 PM UTC+1, Adam Lea wrote:

It is probably some sort of spatial average over the UK. May be worth
asking them.

Yes Adam, you are right, but shouldn't they tell us in the article how the spatial mean is worked out, over what area of the UK?

This is a bit of Daily Expressism from the Met Office!

Steve J

A brief description of the methodology is given here .... there's a full
list of peer-reviewed references at the bottom

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/.../archives.html

Martin.


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Martin Rowley wrote:
On 02/07/2012 20:17, Steve Jackson wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2012 7:43:06 PM UTC+1, Adam Lea wrote:

It is probably some sort of spatial average over the UK. May be
worth asking them.

Yes Adam, you are right, but shouldn't they tell us in the article
how the spatial mean is worked out, over what area of the UK? This is a
bit of Daily Expressism from the Met Office!

Steve J

A brief description of the methodology is given here .... there's a
full list of peer-reviewed references at the bottom

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/.../archives.html

Martin.

However it is measured or estimated and regardless of the variation over the
UK, I have understood "the wettest June on record in the UK" as meaning the
June when the most rain (by weight/volume) fell onto the land surface (plus
inland lakes?) of the UK during the month. Such a term does not need to be
qualified.

Roger