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As of 8.30pm it's started pouring down in the Stadium. A blob on the
radar about the size of the stadium, just in the wrong place and very isolated. Mind you can't get through to Meteox or UKMO radar atm - wonder why! DAve |
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On Friday, 27 July 2012 20:39:19 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
As of 8.30pm it's started pouring down in the Stadium. A blob on the radar about the size of the stadium, just in the wrong place and very isolated. Mind you can't get through to Meteox or UKMO radar atm - wonder why! DAve I thought for piers to not exactly get his deluge, but to predict rai9n so far out from the actual day was amazing in fact stunning. Now in the past I've been as cynical of Piers as anyone but really he's the jammiest man in the world or has really got some method. He's biggest problem is he always predicts in terms of worse , coldest, hottest whereas MO are far more measured. It's alaso worth mentioneing that MO have hedged their bets on rain for the London area all week, sometims showing rain then sometimes not. It's obvious to me that ukmo are very cocious of amimosity that is building towards them and for all that computing power they couldn't be consistant about rain today wavering between showers and dry depending on which part of their website you looked at. Corbin's forecast of precipitation was stunning, his hyperbole of deluge OTT. But he was far more right from a long way out than MO. |
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On Jul 27, 10:29*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Friday, 27 July 2012 20:39:19 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell *wrote: As of 8.30pm it's started pouring down in the Stadium. A blob on the radar about the size of the stadium, just in the wrong place and very isolated. Mind you can't get through to Meteox or UKMO radar atm - wonder why! DAve I thought for piers to not exactly get his deluge, but to predict rai9n so far out from the actual day was amazing in fact stunning. Now in the past I've been as cynical of Piers as anyone but really he's the jammiest man in the world or *has really got some method. He's biggest problem is he always predicts in terms of worse , coldest, hottest whereas MO are far more measured. It's alaso worth mentioneing that MO have hedged their bets on rain for the London area all week, sometims showing rain then sometimes not. *It's obvious to me that ukmo are very cocious of amimosity that is building towards them and for all that computing power they couldn't be consistant about rain today wavering between showers and dry depending on which part of their website you looked at. Corbin's forecast of precipitation was stunning, his hyperbole of deluge OTT. But he was far more right from a long way out than MO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clouds on sticks! Say no more! Len Wembury |
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 at 20:39:19, Dave Cornwell
wrote in uk.sci.weather : As of 8.30pm it's started pouring down in the Stadium. A blob on the radar about the size of the stadium, just in the wrong place and very isolated. Mind you can't get through to Meteox or UKMO radar atm - wonder why! DAve I noticed the stadium looked damp when the coverage started. -- Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me) |
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Paul Hyett wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 at 20:39:19, Dave Cornwell wrote in uk.sci.weather : As of 8.30pm it's started pouring down in the Stadium. A blob on the radar about the size of the stadium, just in the wrong place and very isolated. Mind you can't get through to Meteox or UKMO radar atm - wonder why! DAve I noticed the stadium looked damp when the coverage started. ----------------------- That was about it, just that little shower before it started. No deluge and no rain during so Corbyn was wrong in the end. Fantastic show, shame about Macca but I kind of understand why they stuck him in. Dave |
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On Saturday, 28 July 2012 11:43:16 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Paul Hyett wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 at 20:39:19, Dave Cornwell wrote in uk.sci.weather : As of 8.30pm it's started pouring down in the Stadium. A blob on the radar about the size of the stadium, just in the wrong place and very isolated. Mind you can't get through to Meteox or UKMO radar atm - wonder why! DAve I noticed the stadium looked damp when the coverage started. ----------------------- That was about it, just that little shower before it started. No deluge and no rain during so Corbyn was wrong in the end. Fantastic show, shame about Macca but I kind of understand why they stuck him in. Dave Corbin got the 'deluge ' part wrong not the precipitation |
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On 28 July, 11:43, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Paul Hyett wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 at 20:39:19, Dave Cornwell wrote in uk.sci.weather : As of 8.30pm it's started pouring down in the Stadium. A blob on the radar about the size of the stadium, just in the wrong place and very isolated. Mind you can't get through to Meteox or UKMO radar atm - wonder why! DAve I noticed the stadium looked damp when the coverage started. ----------------------- That was about it, just that little shower before it started. No deluge and no rain during so Corbyn was wrong in the end. Fantastic show, shame about Macca but I kind of understand why they stuck him in. Dave By the way Dave I never saw it out to the end; what was the issue with McCartney besides the fact his voice has gone? |
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On Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:56:12 AM UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:
Corbin got the 'deluge ' part wrong not the precipitation ======================== The 'deluge' part was the most important bit. He reckoned it would be a washout. Moreover, in summer in London the precipitation state at any one time is pretty much rain / not rain. A 50/50 shot - which does not represent any sort of predictive skill. And it's fantastical to suggest that a passing shower verifies a forecast of a deluge or washout. On the other hand, as I mentioned previously, meteorologists, including the Met Office, had (a good while in advance) forecast that Friday 27th would see a breakdown in London's hot, sunny weather with a risk of passing showers. These were forecasts that verified rather well. Hat tip to the models and to meteorologists' interpretation thereof, I'd say. Stephen. |
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Stephen Davenport wrote:
On Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:56:12 AM UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote: Corbin got the 'deluge ' part wrong not the precipitation ======================== The 'deluge' part was the most important bit. He reckoned it would be a washout. Moreover, in summer in London the precipitation state at any one time is pretty much rain / not rain. A 50/50 shot - which does not represent any sort of predictive skill. And it's fantastical to suggest that a passing shower verifies a forecast of a deluge or washout. On the other hand, as I mentioned previously, meteorologists, including the Met Office, had (a good while in advance) forecast that Friday 27th would see a breakdown in London's hot, sunny weather with a risk of passing showers. These were forecasts that verified rather well. Hat tip to the models and to meteorologists' interpretation thereof, I'd say. Stephen. --------------------- Yes I agree, my local forecast for the week issued last Sunday on my website based on extrapolation from the Countryfile forecast reflected the accuracy of the UKMO. "At last we get a summery week! It will be sunny and become increasingly hot, possibly reaching 30C by Wednesday. Thursday should still be good but by Friday or a bit later there may well be showers arriving. It will turn cooler and more unsettled by the weekend but there is still a reasonable chance of some good weather returning during the Olympics." The tiny dot of a short lived rogue shower at a specific location would only be claimed as forecastable by a lunatic. Having said that I don't think anybody has claimed to have predicted that - yet. In reality Corbyn could claim a partial success wiith a slight timing error and location inacccuracy of 20 miles as I did have a downpour for approx 20 mins at 2.00am giving 4.6mm. Dave |
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On 28/07/2012 11:59, Lawrence13 wrote:
On 28 July, 11:43, Dave Cornwell wrote: Paul Hyett wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 at 20:39:19, Dave Cornwell wrote in uk.sci.weather : As of 8.30pm it's started pouring down in the Stadium. A blob on the radar about the size of the stadium, just in the wrong place and very isolated. Mind you can't get through to Meteox or UKMO radar atm - wonder why! DAve I noticed the stadium looked damp when the coverage started. ----------------------- That was about it, just that little shower before it started. No deluge and no rain during so Corbyn was wrong in the end. Fantastic show, shame about Macca but I kind of understand why they stuck him in. Dave By the way Dave I never saw it out to the end; what was the issue with McCartney besides the fact his voice has gone? Spot on! And his sell by date expired some years ago. jim, Northampton |
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