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... Thanks for the replies, it was a serious question and had always believed that the coolness was just a 'local' variation in the big scheme of things. I just wonder what the next phase is going to bring? It is anyone's guess. In 2000 we had record rainfall, call that a 100 year event. Last year, in 2012, we had record rainfall again so now we seem to be having 100 year events every 10 years. 2004 was a record warm year, another 1 in 100 year event, so perhaps we can expect a record warm year in the next year or so. OTOH, perhaps the Atlantic has warmed to the extent that the system has passed a tipping point such that each year from now on we will have monsoon rain just like we had last summer, oups! spring and autumn. Meanwhile, the Arctic sea ice will continue to thin, and may just melt away one summer not to reappear again. How will that affect the climate globally, in the NH, and in the UK. Meanwhile, the solar cycles have developed a double peak and this cycle is very weak. Are we entering another Little Ice Age when there were few sunspots for 70 years? Have we increased the CO2 levels enough to prevent that happening so temperatures will continue to rise? Or is the weakening Sun the reason global temperatures have not risen appreciably since 1998? I was wrong about the ice on the woodland path being from an aircraft. Was I also wrong when I told Weatherlawyer that there would not be another ice age in our lifetime? BTW, I blame the heavy snow at Christmas 2010 and recently on warmer Atlantic SSTs due to global warming. The higher specific humididty has meant that snowfalls have been heavier and more disruptive. Cheers, Alastair. |
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On Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:44:40 UTC, wrote:
On Monday, March 11, 2013 11:22:45 PM UTC, Alastair wrote: "Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message ... Seriously though, globally, what's the score ? Australia has just had the hottest summer ever and the US 48 contiguous states have just had their hottest year. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...g-history.html Since that new item NASA has reported: "NASA Finds Long-Term Climate Warming Trend" http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...15jan_warming/ and "Amplified Greenhouse Effect Shifts North's Growing Seasons "http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/10mar_greenhouseshift/ Meanwhile the Sun is fading with NASA saying "We are currently over four years into Cycle 24. The current predicted and observed size makes this the smallest sunspot cycle since Cycle 14 which had a maximum of 64.2 in February of 1906." http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/predict.shtml It is not just the weather that is Chaotic. The climate is too. Global warming does not mean temperatures rise evenly all over the globe. Cheers, Alastair. Thanks for the replies, it was a serious question and had always believed that the coolness was just a 'local' variation in the big scheme of things.. I just wonder what the next phase is going to bring? Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net "Weather Home & Abroad" Stick by your hot cross buns Keith (well Good Friday not far off) none of the AGW's here would have ever pre 2010 predicted snow albeit patchy but very cold weather for the UK in March-ever again. Yet here they are now trying to make sense of it and rationalising cold, snowy weather across most of the NH this winter as further evidence of AGW . No sceptic would dare claim several mild winters and very hot summers as AGW but here they are. Hey folks : maybe climate just changed regardless of human activity |
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![]() "Alastair McDonald" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Thanks for the replies, it was a serious question and had always believed that the coolness was just a 'local' variation in the big scheme of things. I just wonder what the next phase is going to bring? It is anyone's guess. In 2000 we had record rainfall, call that a 100 year event. Last year, in 2012, we had record rainfall again so now we seem to be having 100 year events every 10 years. 2004 was a record warm year, another 1 in 100 year event, so perhaps we can expect a record warm year in the next year or so. OTOH, perhaps the Atlantic has warmed to the extent that the system has passed a tipping point such that each year from now on we will have monsoon rain just like we had last summer, oups! spring and autumn. Meanwhile, the Arctic sea ice will continue to thin, and may just melt away one summer not to reappear again. How will that affect the climate globally, in the NH, and in the UK. Meanwhile, the solar cycles have developed a double peak and this cycle is very weak. Are we entering another Little Ice Age when there were few sunspots for 70 years? Have we increased the CO2 levels enough to prevent that happening so temperatures will continue to rise? Or is the weakening Sun the reason global temperatures have not risen appreciably since 1998? I was wrong about the ice on the woodland path being from an aircraft. Was I also wrong when I told Weatherlawyer that there would not be another ice age in our lifetime? BTW, I blame the heavy snow at Christmas 2010 and recently on warmer Atlantic SSTs due to global warming. The higher specific humididty has meant that snowfalls have been heavier and more disruptive. Cheers, Alastair. ================================================== ==================== Just two slight dustings of snow here in Plympton this year so not been very snowy down here. Stan |
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On 12/03/13 16:35, Alastair McDonald wrote:
Or is the weakening Sun the reason global temperatures have not risen appreciably since 1998? http://www.skepticalscience.com/16_m...l_warming.html |
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