Too much snow
 

Well, there is in my garden right now.

I guess next door have decided to use their conservatory, despite it
being so cold outside and the whole thing covered in a thick layer (4"+)
of snow. Well it was till the whole lot slipped off this morning, half
of it landing in my garden, smashing plant pots and the water take off
from the down pipe into the water butts.

As I've said often enough .....

I DO NOT LIKE SNOW ! ! ! !

jim, Northampton

Too much snow
 

On 27/03/2013 00:00, jbm wrote:
Well, there is in my garden right now.

I guess next door have decided to use their conservatory, despite it
being so cold outside and the whole thing covered in a thick layer (4"+)
of snow. Well it was till the whole lot slipped off this morning, half
of it landing in my garden, smashing plant pots and the water take off
from the down pipe into the water butts.

As I've said often enough .....

I DO NOT LIKE SNOW ! ! ! !

jim, Northampton

Some people like snow, Get over it Jim! ;-)

Too much snow
 

As I've said often enough .....
I DO NOT LIKE SNOW ! ! ! !
jim, Northampton

I love snow - but only in the right places. Which do *not*
include roads and pavements, or avalanching off roofs.

You have my sympathy.

Anne
In snowless freezing Fochabers

Too much snow
 

In message , Joe Egginton
writes
On 27/03/2013 00:00, jbm wrote:
Well, there is in my garden right now.

I guess next door have decided to use their conservatory, despite it
being so cold outside and the whole thing covered in a thick layer (4"+)
of snow. Well it was till the whole lot slipped off this morning, half
of it landing in my garden, smashing plant pots and the water take off
from the down pipe into the water butts.

As I've said often enough .....

I DO NOT LIKE SNOW ! ! ! !

jim, Northampton

Some people like snow, Get over it Jim! ;-)

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue about
the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish obsession
takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial ruin for
farmers.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from getting to
Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul. Whingeing about
the council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Grow up Joe.

--


Jim Kewley

Too much snow
 

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue about
the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish obsession
takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial ruin for farmers.

Oh not the tired old 'liking snow is childish' argument again.
Of course ones's like or dislike of a weather type is going to
be coloured by how much one is adversely affected by it.
Perhaps you might like it if you lived in Essex?
I'd certainly hate it if I was a sheep farmer on the Isle of man.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from getting to
Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul. Whingeing about the
council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Now that's not fair. Us townies aren't ignorant of the effects of
snow, we've all seen the horrendous pictutes of sheep being
pulled from drifts on the IOM. And anyhow, what difference
would it make if I hated snow anyway, it's effects would still
be the same.

Grow up Joe.

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Too much snow
 

On 28/03/2013 04:42, Jim Kewley wrote:
In message , Joe Egginton
writes
On 27/03/2013 00:00, jbm wrote:
Well, there is in my garden right now.

I guess next door have decided to use their conservatory, despite it
being so cold outside and the whole thing covered in a thick layer (4"+)
of snow. Well it was till the whole lot slipped off this morning, half
of it landing in my garden, smashing plant pots and the water take off
from the down pipe into the water butts.

As I've said often enough .....

I DO NOT LIKE SNOW ! ! ! !

jim, Northampton

Some people like snow, Get over it Jim! ;-)

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue about
the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish obsession
takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial ruin for farmers.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from getting to
Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul. Whingeing about
the council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Grow up Joe.


Jim, I appreciate how deadly snow can be on humans or animals. I see
that it can be devastating, on farmers and families. I feel for anyone
that loses their livihood, or close family member.

I don;t know if you noticed I but a winking face at the end of my
message to Jim of Northampton. I saw that he was a ranting snow hater,
and wanted to play him up.

I don;t like snow, however, has with anyone that rants I want to play
them up to get a response.

Joe
Wolverhampton.

Too much snow
 

On 28/03/13 06:31, Col wrote:
"Jim wrote in message
...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue about
the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish obsession
takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial ruin for farmers.

Oh not the tired old 'liking snow is childish' argument again.
Of course ones's like or dislike of a weather type is going to
be coloured by how much one is adversely affected by it.
Perhaps you might like it if you lived in Essex?
I'd certainly hate it if I was a sheep farmer on the Isle of man.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from getting to
Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul. Whingeing about the
council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Now that's not fair. Us townies aren't ignorant of the effects of
snow, we've all seen the horrendous pictutes of sheep being
pulled from drifts on the IOM. And anyhow, what difference
would it make if I hated snow anyway, it's effects would still
be the same.

Grow up Joe.

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.

This brings up the question in my mind of whether it is disrespectful
(or even immoral) to get enjoyment out of something that causes
significant harm or destruction to others. It appears that Jim thinks yes.

Too much snow
 

In article , says...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue about
the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish obsession
takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial ruin for
farmers.


And exactly what difference does it make? Will the farmer be happier for
knowing that the whole country were united behind his futile hope for
fairer weather?

Would a single animal be saved if only people would stop looking forward
to some snow?


--
Alan LeHun
Reply-to is valid. Add "BPSF" to subject: to bypass spam filters.

Too much snow
 

"Adam Lea" wrote in message
...
On 28/03/13 06:31, Col wrote:

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.

This brings up the question in my mind of whether it is disrespectful (or
even immoral) to get enjoyment out of something that causes significant
harm or destruction to others. It appears that Jim thinks yes.

The point is the snow that I enjoy isn't the same snow that is burying
sheep on the IOM.
If I was getting pleasure from the sight of dead lambs in snowdrifts
then he would most certainly have a point.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Too much snow
 

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:14:38 +0000
Adam Lea wrote:

On 28/03/13 06:31, Col wrote:
"Jim wrote in message
...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue
about the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish
obsession takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial
ruin for farmers.

Oh not the tired old 'liking snow is childish' argument again.
Of course ones's like or dislike of a weather type is going to
be coloured by how much one is adversely affected by it.
Perhaps you might like it if you lived in Essex?
I'd certainly hate it if I was a sheep farmer on the Isle of man.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from
getting to Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul.
Whingeing about the council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Now that's not fair. Us townies aren't ignorant of the effects of
snow, we've all seen the horrendous pictutes of sheep being
pulled from drifts on the IOM. And anyhow, what difference
would it make if I hated snow anyway, it's effects would still
be the same.

Grow up Joe.

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.

This brings up the question in my mind of whether it is disrespectful
(or even immoral) to get enjoyment out of something that causes
significant harm or destruction to others. It appears that Jim thinks
yes.

Can't enjoy peanuts because some people die from an allergy to peanuts.

Can't enjoy too much sun as some people suffer from an allergy to the
sun.

Can't enjoy the scent of flowers or new-mown hay because some people
suffer from an allergy to pollen or may have a fatal asthma attack.

Can't enjoy motoring because thousands die on the road every year.

Can't enjoy dry weather because crops may fail.

Can't enjoy rain because some may get too much and get flooded - and
crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a blustery day as someone may be injured by falling trees
or masonry - and crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a thunderstorm because someone may be struck by lightning
- and, through hail damage, crops may fail.

Can't enjoy alcohol as some people become addicted and heavy drinkers
live shorter lives than moderate drinkers.

Can't enjoy being teetotal (really?) because teetotallers live shorter
lives than moderate drinkers.


Can't win.


--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
Carlos Seixas, Sonata nº 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXox7vonfEg
And for something completely different, Cumberland Gap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsU-LTwx8Co

Too much snow
 

On 28/03/2013 09:23, Joe Egginton wrote:



I don;t know if you noticed I but a winking face at the end of my
message to Jim of Northampton. I saw that he was a ranting snow hater,
and wanted to play him up.

I don;t like snow, however, has with anyone that rants I want to play
them up to get a response.



Just as I was trying to wind up that damned WC Inuit snow lover (when he
gets back and reads though all this lot).

Everybody deserves a good wind up occasionally. It's just a pity some of
them have to take umbrage.

jim, Northampton

Too much snow
 

In message , Col
writes

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.


You know the score eh Col ? NOT.
--


Jim Kewley

Too much snow
 

In message , Adam Lea
writes


This brings up the question in my mind of whether it is disrespectful
(or even immoral) to get enjoyment out of something that causes
significant harm or destruction to others. It appears that Jim thinks
yes.


Well Jim certainly thinks that the snowballers don't have a clue about
the harsh reality of snowfall. Once snow started to interfere with
their daily lives they'd quickly be looking for someone to blame.
--


Jim Kewley

Too much snow
 

In message -jade, Graham P Davis
writes
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:14:38 +0000
Adam Lea wrote:

On 28/03/13 06:31, Col wrote:
"Jim wrote in message
...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue
about the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish
obsession takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial
ruin for farmers.

Oh not the tired old 'liking snow is childish' argument again.
Of course ones's like or dislike of a weather type is going to
be coloured by how much one is adversely affected by it.
Perhaps you might like it if you lived in Essex?
I'd certainly hate it if I was a sheep farmer on the Isle of man.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from
getting to Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul.
Whingeing about the council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Now that's not fair. Us townies aren't ignorant of the effects of
snow, we've all seen the horrendous pictutes of sheep being
pulled from drifts on the IOM. And anyhow, what difference
would it make if I hated snow anyway, it's effects would still
be the same.

Grow up Joe.

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.

This brings up the question in my mind of whether it is disrespectful
(or even immoral) to get enjoyment out of something that causes
significant harm or destruction to others. It appears that Jim thinks
yes.

Can't enjoy peanuts because some people die from an allergy to peanuts.

Can't enjoy too much sun as some people suffer from an allergy to the
sun.

Can't enjoy the scent of flowers or new-mown hay because some people
suffer from an allergy to pollen or may have a fatal asthma attack.

Can't enjoy motoring because thousands die on the road every year.

Can't enjoy dry weather because crops may fail.

Can't enjoy rain because some may get too much and get flooded - and
crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a blustery day as someone may be injured by falling trees
or masonry - and crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a thunderstorm because someone may be struck by lightning
- and, through hail damage, crops may fail.

Can't enjoy alcohol as some people become addicted and heavy drinkers
live shorter lives than moderate drinkers.

Can't enjoy being teetotal (really?) because teetotallers live shorter
lives than moderate drinkers.


Can't win.



You think that load of shyte was somehow relevant ? Dear me this place
gets worse all the time.
--


Jim Kewley

Too much snow
 

In message , Joe Egginton
writes
.


Jim, I appreciate how deadly snow can be on humans or animals. I see
that it can be devastating, on farmers and families. I feel for anyone
that loses their livihood, or close family member.

I don;t know if you noticed I but a winking face at the end of my
message to Jim of Northampton. I saw that he was a ranting snow hater,
and wanted to play him up.

I don;t like snow, however, has with anyone that rants I want to play
them up to get a response.

Joe
Wolverhampton.




Sincere apologies Joe I was overly harsh. Looking at the dead bodies of
sheep piled up outside the house tends to focus one's mind on the '
merits ' of snow.
--


Jim Kewley

Too much snow
 

In message , Alan
LeHun writes
In article , says...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue about
the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish obsession
takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial ruin for
farmers.


And exactly what difference does it make? Will the farmer be happier for
knowing that the whole country were united behind his futile hope for
fairer weather?

Would a single animal be saved if only people would stop looking forward
to some snow?




Go away and moan about the council, half wit.
--


Jim Kewley

Too much snow
 

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.


You know the score eh Col ? NOT.

Well you certainly sucsessfully rebutted my points with that reply. NOT.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Too much snow
 

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Alan
LeHun writes
In article , says...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue about
the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish obsession
takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial ruin for
farmers.


And exactly what difference does it make? Will the farmer be happier for
knowing that the whole country were united behind his futile hope for
fairer weather?

Would a single animal be saved if only people would stop looking forward
to some snow?




Go away and moan about the council, half wit.

That's a laugh in itself.
Farmers are the biggest moaners going.
Always too hot/dry/wet/cold or the supermarkets are shafting them.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Too much snow
 

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 03:52:06 +0000
Jim Kewley wrote:

In message -jade, Graham P
Davis writes
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:14:38 +0000
Adam Lea wrote:

On 28/03/13 06:31, Col wrote:
"Jim wrote in message
...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a
clue about the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish
obsession takes a hold. It's death for the animals and
financial ruin for farmers.

Oh not the tired old 'liking snow is childish' argument again.
Of course ones's like or dislike of a weather type is going to
be coloured by how much one is adversely affected by it.
Perhaps you might like it if you lived in Essex?
I'd certainly hate it if I was a sheep farmer on the Isle of man.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from
getting to Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul.
Whingeing about the council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Now that's not fair. Us townies aren't ignorant of the effects of
snow, we've all seen the horrendous pictutes of sheep being
pulled from drifts on the IOM. And anyhow, what difference
would it make if I hated snow anyway, it's effects would still
be the same.

Grow up Joe.

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.

This brings up the question in my mind of whether it is
disrespectful (or even immoral) to get enjoyment out of something
that causes significant harm or destruction to others. It appears
that Jim thinks yes.

Can't enjoy peanuts because some people die from an allergy to
peanuts.

Can't enjoy too much sun as some people suffer from an allergy to the
sun.

Can't enjoy the scent of flowers or new-mown hay because some people
suffer from an allergy to pollen or may have a fatal asthma attack.

Can't enjoy motoring because thousands die on the road every year.

Can't enjoy dry weather because crops may fail.

Can't enjoy rain because some may get too much and get flooded - and
crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a blustery day as someone may be injured by falling trees
or masonry - and crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a thunderstorm because someone may be struck by lightning
- and, through hail damage, crops may fail.

Can't enjoy alcohol as some people become addicted and heavy drinkers
live shorter lives than moderate drinkers.

Can't enjoy being teetotal (really?) because teetotallers live
shorter lives than moderate drinkers.


Can't win.



You think that load of shyte was somehow relevant ? Dear me this
place gets worse all the time.

Yes, I do. I'm sorry that, for some reason, you are not able to see the
connection between what Adam wrote and my reply.


By the way, the '--' before your sig needs a space after it.


--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
Carlos Seixas, Sonata nº 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXox7vonfEg
And for something completely different, Cumberland Gap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsU-LTwx8Co

Too much snow
 

You think that load of shyte was somehow relevant ? Dear me
this place gets worse all the time.
Jim Kewley

Jim, no-one, but no-one, is deriving any pleasure at all from
you sheep being suffocated by snow. I agree entirely that that
would be totally wrong, and like everyone else on this news
group, my heartfelt sympathy goes to the livestock caught in
this year's 'lambing storms', and the farmers involved. I can
try to understand the despair that must be causing, and must
have caused for centuries when similar 'freak' weather has
occurred.

But Col is right; snow in the right place and in the right
quantity is one of the beauties of nature, and it is possible to
enjoy seeing it, or walking in it, or skiing over it, or
photographing it, without wishing ill on sheep farmers.

Graham is right too with his list of analogies. Enjoying
something is a very long way from wishing anyone else harm by
the agency of it.

Anne

Too much snow
 

On 28/03/13 20:07, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:14:38 +0000
Adam wrote:

On 28/03/13 06:31, Col wrote:
"Jim wrote in message
...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a clue
about the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish
obsession takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial
ruin for farmers.

Oh not the tired old 'liking snow is childish' argument again.
Of course ones's like or dislike of a weather type is going to
be coloured by how much one is adversely affected by it.
Perhaps you might like it if you lived in Essex?
I'd certainly hate it if I was a sheep farmer on the Isle of man.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from
getting to Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul.
Whingeing about the council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Now that's not fair. Us townies aren't ignorant of the effects of
snow, we've all seen the horrendous pictutes of sheep being
pulled from drifts on the IOM. And anyhow, what difference
would it make if I hated snow anyway, it's effects would still
be the same.

Grow up Joe.

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.

This brings up the question in my mind of whether it is disrespectful
(or even immoral) to get enjoyment out of something that causes
significant harm or destruction to others. It appears that Jim thinks
yes.

Can't enjoy peanuts because some people die from an allergy to peanuts.

Can't enjoy too much sun as some people suffer from an allergy to the
sun.

Can't enjoy the scent of flowers or new-mown hay because some people
suffer from an allergy to pollen or may have a fatal asthma attack.

Can't enjoy motoring because thousands die on the road every year.

Can't enjoy dry weather because crops may fail.

Can't enjoy rain because some may get too much and get flooded - and
crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a blustery day as someone may be injured by falling trees
or masonry - and crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a thunderstorm because someone may be struck by lightning
- and, through hail damage, crops may fail.

Can't enjoy alcohol as some people become addicted and heavy drinkers
live shorter lives than moderate drinkers.

Can't enjoy being teetotal (really?) because teetotallers live shorter
lives than moderate drinkers.


Can't win.



Some of those are rather dodgy analogies.

I can enjoy a peanut butter sandwich without anyone else getting an
allergic reaction.

It would have to be a very rare allergy for any sunshine at all to
trigger an allergic reaction.

If people wish for rain, they are usually not wishing for such
quantities as to cause problems. Similarly in the case of dry weather.

A blustery day does not, as a rule, cause trees to fall down, that would
be a gale or storm.

Wishing for and having an alcoholic drink does not affect any alcoholics
in the vicinity, similarly being alcohol free does not affect anyone else.

On the other hand, it is impossible to have snow in the quantities
wished for on this NG without it causing disruption to everyday life in
this country, or without it bringing a significant hazard to a
significant proportion of the population. This is why some may class it
as a little insensitive. A similar situation occurs at the other end of
the spectrum, namely heatwaves.

Too much snow
 

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:40:28 +0000
Adam Lea wrote:

On 28/03/13 20:07, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:14:38 +0000
Adam wrote:

On 28/03/13 06:31, Col wrote:
"Jim wrote in message
...

Unfortunately most of you urban snow worshippers don't have a
clue about the damage it does.

Try it here just now and see what happens when your childish
obsession takes a hold. It's death for the animals and financial
ruin for farmers.

Oh not the tired old 'liking snow is childish' argument again.
Of course ones's like or dislike of a weather type is going to
be coloured by how much one is adversely affected by it.
Perhaps you might like it if you lived in Essex?
I'd certainly hate it if I was a sheep farmer on the Isle of man.

A day or two of snow like we've got here, preventing you from
getting to Tesco would have most of you snowballers crying foul.
Whingeing about the council not doing enough.

That sounds harsh I know but sometimes ignorance is highly
irritating.

Now that's not fair. Us townies aren't ignorant of the effects of
snow, we've all seen the horrendous pictutes of sheep being
pulled from drifts on the IOM. And anyhow, what difference
would it make if I hated snow anyway, it's effects would still
be the same.

Grow up Joe.

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.

This brings up the question in my mind of whether it is
disrespectful (or even immoral) to get enjoyment out of something
that causes significant harm or destruction to others. It appears
that Jim thinks yes.

Can't enjoy peanuts because some people die from an allergy to
peanuts.

Can't enjoy too much sun as some people suffer from an allergy to
the sun.

Can't enjoy the scent of flowers or new-mown hay because some people
suffer from an allergy to pollen or may have a fatal asthma attack.

Can't enjoy motoring because thousands die on the road every year.

Can't enjoy dry weather because crops may fail.

Can't enjoy rain because some may get too much and get flooded - and
crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a blustery day as someone may be injured by falling
trees or masonry - and crops may fail.

Can't enjoy a thunderstorm because someone may be struck by
lightning
- and, through hail damage, crops may fail.

Can't enjoy alcohol as some people become addicted and heavy
drinkers live shorter lives than moderate drinkers.

Can't enjoy being teetotal (really?) because teetotallers live
shorter lives than moderate drinkers.


Can't win.



Some of those are rather dodgy analogies.

I can enjoy a peanut butter sandwich without anyone else getting an
allergic reaction.

As long as you don't shake hands with them afterwards. ;-)


It would have to be a very rare allergy for any sunshine at all to
trigger an allergic reaction.

Yes, but I've known a few people who have to cover their skin from now
until autumn because of this allergy.


If people wish for rain, they are usually not wishing for such
quantities as to cause problems. Similarly in the case of dry weather.

Who said anything about wishing for rain. The argument was that we
shouldn't enjoy anything that may cause harm to others.


A blustery day does not, as a rule, cause trees to fall down, that
would be a gale or storm.

Wishing for and having an alcoholic drink does not affect any
alcoholics in the vicinity, similarly being alcohol free does not
affect anyone else.

You seem to be moving the goalposts again. What does being 'in the
vicinity' have to do with anything that has been said so far? I'm not
allowed to like snow in Bracknell because of the hill-farmers in
the IOM. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they're adjacent.

The point I made about enjoying alcohol is no different from what we're
being criticised for regarding enjoying snow.



--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
Carlos Seixas, Sonata nº 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXox7vonfEg
And for something completely different, Cumberland Gap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsU-LTwx8Co

Too much snow
 

In message , Col
writes

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.


You know the score eh Col ? NOT.

Well you certainly sucsessfully rebutted my points with that reply. NOT.

Rebut what points exactly ? You like snow...........! Can't be arsed,
there's nothing in your shallow posts to merit thought.

--


Jim Kewley

Too much snow
 

In message -jade, Graham P Davis
writes


By the way, the '--' before your sig needs a space after it.




Well I'm suitably chastised after that gem.
--


Jim Kewley

Too much snow
 

In message , Anne Burgess
writes
You think that load of shyte was somehow relevant ? Dear me
this place gets worse all the time.
Jim Kewley

Jim, no-one, but no-one, is deriving any pleasure at all from
you sheep being suffocated by snow. I agree entirely that that
would be totally wrong, and like everyone else on this news
group, my heartfelt sympathy goes to the livestock caught in
this year's 'lambing storms', and the farmers involved. I can
try to understand the despair that must be causing, and must
have caused for centuries when similar 'freak' weather has
occurred.

But Col is right; snow in the right place and in the right
quantity is one of the beauties of nature, and it is possible to
enjoy seeing it, or walking in it, or skiing over it, or
photographing it, without wishing ill on sheep farmers.

Graham is right too with his list of analogies. Enjoying
something is a very long way from wishing anyone else harm by
the agency of it.

Anne


Fair comment Anne thanks, I do appreciate your point. I have gone a bit
over the top, mainly because most of the urban snow worshippers here
don't have a clue about the real life consequences of the stuff they,
bizarrely, seem to worship.

It's all very well posting excitedly about measuring 6cms in the garden,
or posting videos of snow in street lights. The carnage, disruption and
cost of a couple of feet is a different matter altogether.

Surely not all with an interest in the weather are obsessed with snow
and cold and hate warmth ? That can't be true, hopefully it's confined
to the posters here, there's so much more of interest in weather and
climate than cold and snow.

--

Jim

Too much snow
 

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

Perhaps you should take a step back and appreciate that
the vast majority of people aren't affected by snow like hill
farmers are, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to like it,
whilst acknowledging the dangers to some.


You know the score eh Col ? NOT.

Well you certainly sucsessfully rebutted my points with that reply. NOT.

Rebut what points exactly ? You like snow...........! Can't be arsed,
there's nothing in your shallow posts to merit thought.

Ah yes, accusing those you don't agree with of being 'shallow'.
Everybody here understands why you loathe snow, I'd be the same
in you situation. So why can't you understand why others might like it?
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Too much snow
 

In message , Col
writes

Ah yes, accusing those you don't agree with of being 'shallow'.
Everybody here understands why you loathe snow, I'd be the same
in you situation. So why can't you understand why others might like it?

To a degree I understand your point, could we agree to differ and leave
it at that please ? Making enemies is not for me in day to day life,
neither do I wish to do it on the web.
..
--


Jim

Too much snow
 

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

Ah yes, accusing those you don't agree with of being 'shallow'.
Everybody here understands why you loathe snow, I'd be the same
in you situation. So why can't you understand why others might like it?

To a degree I understand your point, could we agree to differ and leave it
at that please ? Making enemies is not for me in day to day life, neither
do I wish to do it on the web.
.

Oh I see, the one who started all this by showering the accusations around,
whilst other have been understanding, is now wanting not to make enemies??

Unbelievable.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Too much snow
 

In article ,
Col writes:

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

Ah yes, accusing those you don't agree with of being 'shallow'.
Everybody here understands why you loathe snow, I'd be the same
in you situation. So why can't you understand why others might like it?

To a degree I understand your point, could we agree to differ and leave it
at that please ? Making enemies is not for me in day to day life, neither
do I wish to do it on the web.
.

Oh I see, the one who started all this by showering the accusations around,
whilst other have been understanding, is now wanting not to make enemies??

Unbelievable.

Given what Jim's been through with his sheep, I think it's
understandable that he made some intemperate remarks. I believe that we
should accept his olive branch.
--
John Hall
"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable
of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it."
Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) to a lady cellist

Too much snow
 

On 02/04/2013 10:42, John Hall wrote:
In ,
writes:

"Jim wrote in message
...
In , Col
writes

Ah yes, accusing those you don't agree with of being 'shallow'.
Everybody here understands why you loathe snow, I'd be the same
in you situation. So why can't you understand why others might like it?

To a degree I understand your point, could we agree to differ and leave it
at that please ? Making enemies is not for me in day to day life, neither
do I wish to do it on the web.
.

Oh I see, the one who started all this by showering the accusations around,
whilst other have been understanding, is now wanting not to make enemies??

Unbelievable.

Given what Jim's been through with his sheep, I think it's
understandable that he made some intemperate remarks. I believe that we
should accept his olive branch.

Quite so, he’s losing or lost his livelihood. How would you feel Col,
if you lost your job?

I worked on a farm in my teens and I regularly go walking over moors and
hills. I see what farmers have to suffer with the weather. Not just
blizzards, there's floods, droughts, they're at the mercy of the
elements. Also, they're cheated by the supermarkets.

While I was working on the farm, I was told by the farmer not to touch
any bones in a particular field, as some cattle had been burnt, don’t
know whether it was foot and mouth or BSE. I can’t see it being BSE and
it was in the early 80's.

Joe
Wolverhampton.

Too much snow
 

"John Hall" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Col writes:

"Jim Kewley" wrote in message
...
In message , Col
writes

Ah yes, accusing those you don't agree with of being 'shallow'.
Everybody here understands why you loathe snow, I'd be the same
in you situation. So why can't you understand why others might like it?

To a degree I understand your point, could we agree to differ and leave
it
at that please ? Making enemies is not for me in day to day life,
neither
do I wish to do it on the web.
.

Oh I see, the one who started all this by showering the accusations
around,
whilst other have been understanding, is now wanting not to make enemies??

Unbelievable.

Given what Jim's been through with his sheep, I think it's
understandable that he made some intemperate remarks. I believe that we
should accept his olive branch.

Well OK, but everybody here was very understanding over the matter
it was Jim who was rude & abrasive to the point of agression and
refusing to see anyone elses' point of view.
That said, it's obviously been a stressful and very upsetting time for him
and as you say, understandable he didn't come across too well.

So yes, time for an end to this I think.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Too much snow
 

In message , John Hall
writes

Given what Jim's been through with his sheep, I think it's
understandable that he made some intemperate remarks. I believe that we
should accept his olive branch.

Thanks John, I must however make it clear I'm not a farmer. I live in
sheep country, have hill farmers in my family my brother, and am good
friends with the hill farmer who operates round the house. Our place has
the nearest hill track to a road, therefore my pal was bringing the
carcasses down to the track for collection to be taken away.

Seeing the dead creatures piled up was a sobering sight, as is looking
at the surrounding hills and seeing a handful of sheep when only ten
days ago there were hundreds. Without government help I can see most of
the small sheep farmers going under. Our government is typical of the
right wing, myopic and nasty. Anything to help the rich avoid tax but
providing aid to the less fortunate always seems beyond it's reach.



--


Jim

Too much snow
 

In message , Col
writes

Oh I see, the one who started all this by showering the accusations around,
whilst other have been understanding, is now wanting not to make enemies??

Unbelievable.


Other than pointing out that urban snow lovers don't have a clue about
the real problems, and tragedy, heavy snowfall can bring. What
accusations have I ' showered around ' exactly ?

--


Jim Kewley