On Friday, 29 March 2013 23:30:19 UTC, mg wrote:
On Mar 29, 2:57Â*am, :ПеаБраин wrote:

German Newspaper Warns of Coming Ice Age



http://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/ve...4733276/Wissen....



"..the more grizzled would-be climate scientists who warned that

global cooling was about to destroy the earth in the 1970s, told us

that global warming was about to destroy the earth in more recent

decades switch back to telling us that global cooling is soon to

destroy the earth. And all the while championing the same socialist

formula to prevent mankind’s destruction..."



Oh, I don't care much for the German newspapers. What do the Yeman

newspapers say? Or, what about the Japanese papers or what about the

National Inquirer? What does the National Inquirer say?


Well to be fair it was the USA , Europe and the old soviet union that yet again suffered a severe winter three years on the trot.

In article ,
Lawrence13 writes:
Well to be fair it was the USA , Europe and the old soviet union
that yet again suffered a severe winter three years on the trot.

If it's right that all three of those regions have had severe winters
three years running, then it's certainly remarkable. But are you sure
it's right? My memory is rubbish nowadays, but ISTR the USA having the
warmest winter on record two years ago. Looking up the figures on last
winter (ie 2011-2) in Europe, although February was very cold for much
of the continent it followed a mild December and January. This year,
though most of central and northern Europe has joined the UK in having
an unusually cold March, I don't think that December-February were far
out of the ordinary in most places. Of course the USA, Europe and
especially the old Soviet Union are all large areas, and there will
often be occasions when one part will finish up colder than normal while
another part will finish up warmer than normal.
--
John Hall
"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable
of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it."
Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) to a lady cellist

In article ,
John Hall writes:
In article ,
Lawrence13 writes:
Well to be fair it was the USA , Europe and the old soviet union
that yet again suffered a severe winter three years on the trot.

If it's right that all three of those regions have had severe winters
three years running, then it's certainly remarkable. But are you sure
it's right? My memory is rubbish nowadays, but ISTR the USA having the
warmest winter on record two years ago. Looking up the figures on last
winter (ie 2011-2) in Europe, although February was very cold for much
of the continent it followed a mild December and January. This year,
though most of central and northern Europe has joined the UK in having
an unusually cold March, I don't think that December-February were far
out of the ordinary in most places. Of course the USA, Europe and
especially the old Soviet Union are all large areas, and there will
often be occasions when one part will finish up colder than normal while
another part will finish up warmer than normal.

I got interested enough to do a websearch, and found this on the NASA
site:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/

It allowed me to generate temperature anomaly maps for each of the three
winters (Dec-Feb). If you want to check my work, bear in mind that it
says: "If the mean period straddles 2 years, fill in the LATER year for
both Begin AND End."

What I found was:

2010-1: most of the USA, Europe and Russia cold, with parts of northern
Scandinavia and NW European Russia very cold, eastern Asiatic Russia
warm. So it's fair to say that that winter was severe in all of the USA,
Europe and most of Russia.

2011-2: USA (and Canada) exceptionally warm; northern and western Europe
warm, Spain and SE Europe slightly cooler than average; much of Russian
warm or very warm, but southern Asiatic Russia cold, and the extreme
east very cold. So apart from the far east of Russia (the Vladivostok
sort of region), nowhere could be said to have had a severe winter.

2012-3: warmer than average over much of the US and very warm in the
east; most of Europe near average; European Russia warmer than average,
most of Asiatic Russia colder than average. So again not much sign of a
severe winter. Of course many of these regions may have had brief severe
spells, but there's nothing unusual in that.
--
John Hall
"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable
of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it."
Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) to a lady cellist

On Saturday, 30 March 2013 22:15:17 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

John Hall writes:

In article ,

Lawrence13 writes:

Well to be fair it was the USA , Europe and the old soviet union

that yet again suffered a severe winter three years on the trot.



If it's right that all three of those regions have had severe winters

three years running, then it's certainly remarkable. But are you sure

it's right? My memory is rubbish nowadays, but ISTR the USA having the

warmest winter on record two years ago. Looking up the figures on last

winter (ie 2011-2) in Europe, although February was very cold for much

of the continent it followed a mild December and January. This year,

though most of central and northern Europe has joined the UK in having

an unusually cold March, I don't think that December-February were far

out of the ordinary in most places. Of course the USA, Europe and

especially the old Soviet Union are all large areas, and there will

often be occasions when one part will finish up colder than normal while

another part will finish up warmer than normal.



I got interested enough to do a websearch, and found this on the NASA

site:



http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/



It allowed me to generate temperature anomaly maps for each of the three

winters (Dec-Feb). If you want to check my work, bear in mind that it

says: "If the mean period straddles 2 years, fill in the LATER year for

both Begin AND End."



What I found was:



2010-1: most of the USA, Europe and Russia cold, with parts of northern

Scandinavia and NW European Russia very cold, eastern Asiatic Russia

warm. So it's fair to say that that winter was severe in all of the USA,

Europe and most of Russia.



2011-2: USA (and Canada) exceptionally warm; northern and western Europe

warm, Spain and SE Europe slightly cooler than average; much of Russian

warm or very warm, but southern Asiatic Russia cold, and the extreme

east very cold. So apart from the far east of Russia (the Vladivostok

sort of region), nowhere could be said to have had a severe winter.



2012-3: warmer than average over much of the US and very warm in the

east; most of Europe near average; European Russia warmer than average,

most of Asiatic Russia colder than average. So again not much sign of a

severe winter. Of course many of these regions may have had brief severe

spells, but there's nothing unusual in that.

--

John Hall

"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable

of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it."

Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) to a lady cellist


Nasa, are you joking?

On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:21:14 -0700 (PDT), Lawrence13
wrote:
Well to be fair it was the USA , Europe and the old soviet union
that yet again suffered a severe winter three years on the trot.

I got interested enough to do a websearch, and found this on the
NASA
site:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/

Nasa, are you joking?

Ooh NASA, John - they're part of the elf n safety and glowballs
conspiracy ;-)

--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
https://twitter.com/#!/BaystonHillWx for hourly reports

In article ,
Lawrence13 writes:
Nasa, are you joking?

If you don't believe NASA's data but would rather rely on the claims of
the more extreme among the anti-AGW faction, then we are never going to
agree.
--
John Hall
"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable
of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it."
Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) to a lady cellist