On Sunday, 30 June 2013 08:13:34 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:29:08 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote: On Saturday, 29 June 2013 18:12:44 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote: He's just a very grumpy old man. Please ignore him....... **** off, baldie. You're envious, aren't you, because you couldn't even play a f****** washboard, you toxic arsehole.. Never miss a trick to spread a little poison, do you. Why don't you just **** off and die. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. Nice. hughes is all upset because no-one liked his comments about Glastonbury and he thought it best to take it out on me; very probably when drunk at 2.30 am. Water off a duck's hughes; you should know that by now - and Glastonbury has been truly excellent. The Stones were incredible. That's some old gits with a different outlook on life that a curmudgeon like you. laughing

This is not about pop music; it's about your inability to make a point without being rude.

Your reply to my post consisted only of personal abuse. Other posters disagreed with my view but were not personally rude. You then have the absurd cheek to claim that I was taking it out on you whereas it is your personally abusive post which started all this. Without your contribution we may have just had a rather lively and possibly quite acrimonious debate about the virtues or otherwise of pop festivals but with your contribution even that is tainted with vitriol. You've spoilt it, just as you spoil everything you touch. You also seem quite willing to invert the truth to suit your purposes and to ignore any culpability on your part, as you have done for years.

BTW, what is a duck's hughes? Do all ducks have hugheses or is it just the lucky ones? Does water run especially easy off those ducks blessed with hugheses. I bet they're grateful they haven't got garveys because who in their right mind would want one of those? You really must learn to punctuate and even more importantly you must learn to spell people's names with a capital letter, especially me and Lawrie Jenkins. Incredible, considering you're in education, or so you say you are. Personally I think you're a retired East German border guard still retaining all the charm associated with such a position.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:42:22 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sunday, 30 June 2013 08:13:34 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:

On Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:29:08 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote: On Saturday, 29 June 2013 18:12:44 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote: He's just a very grumpy old man. Please ignore him....... **** off, baldie. You're envious, aren't you, because you couldn't even play a f****** washboard, you toxic arsehole. Never miss a trick to spread a little poison, do you. Why don't you just **** off and die. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. Nice. hughes is all upset because no-one liked his comments about Glastonbury and he thought it best to take it out on me; very probably when drunk at 2.30 am. Water off a duck's hughes; you should know that by now - and Glastonbury has been truly excellent. The Stones were incredible. That's some old gits with a different outlook on life that a curmudgeon like you. laughing



This is not about pop music; it's about your inability to make a point without being rude.



Your reply to my post consisted only of personal abuse. Other posters disagreed with my view but were not personally rude. You then have the absurd cheek to claim that I was taking it out on you whereas it is your personally abusive post which started all this. Without your contribution we may have just had a rather lively and possibly quite acrimonious debate about the virtues or otherwise of pop festivals but with your contribution even that is tainted with vitriol. You've spoilt it, just as you spoil everything you touch. You also seem quite willing to invert the truth to suit your purposes and to ignore any culpability on your part, as you have done for years.



BTW, what is a duck's hughes? Do all ducks have hugheses or is it just the lucky ones? Does water run especially easy off those ducks blessed with hugheses. I bet they're grateful they haven't got garveys because who in their right mind would want one of those? You really must learn to punctuate and even more importantly you must learn to spell people's names with a capital letter, especially me and Lawrie Jenkins. Incredible, considering you're in education, or so you say you are. Personally I think you're a retired East German border guard still retaining all the charm associated with such a position.



Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Wow.

Such awful, demeaning, dreadful, vitriolic "personal abuse" as:

"He's just a very grumpy old man. Please ignore him......."

Doo get a life hughes.........laughing

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:40:25 -0700 (PDT)
Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Sunday, 30 June 2013 12:40:17 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Yes, spot on Col on that one. True musicians like most genres of
music provided the players are competetent.

Oh no they don't, Dave. Believe me; I know a lot of professional and
semi-pro musicians. They will certainly appreciate the technical
competence of the muso's while at the same time finding the style not
to their liking one little bit and making fairly rude remarks about
it. This also applies to playing where professional muso's may have
to play stuff they basically despise simply to earn a crust. It's a
precarious existence and one I'm glad I'm not good enough to have to
deal with.

In fact I made a vow as I got older not to criticise modern pop music
as my parents did with the Stones etc. I don't like a lot of it but
it doesn't mean it's bad or young people shouldn't be allowed to. Pop
music is all about being a teenager and probably in love and things
hit you in a different way then. Those were the days!

Yes they were. :-) Being ****ed at parties with wall-to-wall
crumpet. But why do you get sixty-somethings who are still besotted
by The Beatles? Pathetic!

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



Tudor, could you please a proper new-reader or at least do something
about quoting properly so that we don't have to guess as to who is
saying what?

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
A lot of care homes use computer games to keep their residents
physically active. That's why old people smell of wii.
[https://twitter.com/BridgetandJoan]

The great thing about Glastonbury is that there's a huge range
of music, to suit just about all tastes.

**All** tastes, Graham?

Where were the symphony orchestras? The operas? The massed pipe
bands? The Spooky Men's Chorale? Aage Grundstad soundalikes?
Three Tenors soundalikes? (rhetorical question btw!)

*You* may perceive that Glastonbury offers a huge range of
music. I beg to differ. What I heard of it all sounded much the
same, i.e. incomprehensible lyrics with little if any tune
backed by some sort of thumping, the whole lot completely
dependent on excessive amplification.

But as long as I am able to reach the 'off' switch, good luck to
Glastonbury and other similar events. If that is the sort of
thing people like, then that is the sort of thing they like, and
as long as it isn't imposed on those who don't like, it, well
and good.

Anne

On 01/07/2013 02:40, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sunday, 30 June 2013 12:40:17 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Yes, spot on Col on that one. True musicians like most genres of
music provided the players are competetent.

Oh no they don't, Dave. Believe me; I know a lot of professional and
semi-pro musicians. They will certainly appreciate the technical
competence of the muso's while at the same time finding the style not
to their liking one little bit and making fairly rude remarks about
it. This also applies to playing where professional muso's may have
to play stuff they basically despise simply to earn a crust. It's a
precarious existence and one I'm glad I'm not good enough to have to
deal with.


Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


I can see were you are coming from Tudor, as an amateur photographer. I
appreciate the technical brilliance of abstract photography, but I can't
see the point of it. What's the point of a photograph that doesn’t have
a clear message?

Joe
Wolverhampton.

On 01/07/2013 02:49, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sunday, 30 June 2013 13:48:38 UTC+1, Lawrence13 wrote:

Anyhow who saw it: Stones were good. I mean for Ronnie, Keef and mick Taylor to get their old fingers around the chords and bridges was remarkable. Actually my apologies to Tudor. He mention a pop concert not the Stones in particular and I'm sure that many a time he's knocked out 'Jumping Jack Flash ' on the old trombone

Er, no there's not, Lawrie. I can do a passable "That'll be the day" (Holly, B) and "Be my guest" (Domino, F) on the piano, which is my first instrument anyway. The only pop I like is from that era for nostalgic reasons. It was a time when this relatively trivial stuff was not accorded the ridiculously inflated importance it now receives but as youngsters we didn't care. The grown-ups had their music and we had ours.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


Pop music are just ditties, chewing gum for the ears.

On 2013-07-01 01:40:25 +0000, Tudor Hughes said:

snip But why do you get sixty-somethings who are still besotted by
The Beatles? Pathetic!


Presumably, you are implying that music has moved on since the days of
Rocky Raccoon and Yer Blues?

But if you take that attitude to extremes, why are other sixty
somethings still besotted with music that was produced before the
Beatles, i.e. Beethoven or Mozart?

(and yes I am aware of the obvious kneejerk response that I will get to
that question; however no individual can successfully re-create the
effect that certain combinations of musical notes has on the brain and
emotions of any other individual, thus rendering musical snobbery
useless)

snip But why do you get sixty-somethings who are still
besotted by
The Beatles? Pathetic!

But if you take that attitude to extremes, why are other sixty
somethings still besotted with music that was produced before
the Beatles, i.e. Beethoven or Mozart?

Because, generally speaking, Beethoven, Mozart and Co wrote
music which
(a) has pleasant tunes
(b) is harmonious
(c) isn't too loud
(d) doesn't require half a ton of amplification equipment

Anne

"Anne Burgess" wrote in message
...


snip But why do you get sixty-somethings who are still besotted by
The Beatles? Pathetic!

But if you take that attitude to extremes, why are other sixty somethings
still besotted with music that was produced before the Beatles, i.e.
Beethoven or Mozart?

Because, generally speaking, Beethoven, Mozart and Co wrote
music which
(a) has pleasant tunes
(b) is harmonious
(c) isn't too loud
(d) doesn't require half a ton of amplification equipment

Anne
============================================

Yes, I agree, Anne. I have never been able to understand what is so
wonderful about the Rolling Stones. Their sound puts me in mind of that
Shakespearian phrase " . , full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
And how many people did the BBC have covering it, 300 reporters and
technicians, wasn't it? Incredible.

Ian Bingham,
Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.

On Monday, 1 July 2013 09:47:26 UTC+1, yttiw wrote:
On 2013-07-01 01:40:25 +0000, Tudor Hughes said: snip But why do you get sixty-somethings who are still besotted by The Beatles? Pathetic! Presumably, you are implying that music has moved on since the days of Rocky Raccoon and Yer Blues? But if you take that attitude to extremes, why are other sixty somethings still besotted with music that was produced before the Beatles, i.e. Beethoven or Mozart? (and yes I am aware of the obvious kneejerk response that I will get to that question; however no individual can successfully re-create the effect that certain combinations of musical notes has on the brain and emotions of any other individual, thus rendering musical snobbery useless)

I don't think pop music has improved in the last 50 years. It certainly can't move very far or it will lose its audience, which says something. The point is I simply got bored with it and got interested in many other forms. Here's one end of my spectrum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V88PrOuQbgM

The other end could be a Chopin Nocturne, say, and there's much in between. All this is so much more stimulating in a variety of ways whereas pop just dulls the senses, I find. The only use I have for it is as nostalgia. Duane Eddy and his Twangy Guitar! I should point out in my defence that I was only about 16 at the time.
In 1959 Dave Brubeck's Take Five got to No. 1 in the charts (the B side "It's a Raggy Waltz" is better in my opinion). That would never happen now - no words and far too abstract. There's been a dumbing down, just like BBC weather forecasts. Now now!

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.