On Monday, 1 July 2013 09:47:26 UTC+1, yttiw wrote:
On 2013-07-01 01:40:25 +0000, Tudor Hughes said:



snip But why do you get sixty-somethings who are still besotted by

The Beatles? Pathetic!





Presumably, you are implying that music has moved on since the days of

Rocky Raccoon and Yer Blues?



But if you take that attitude to extremes, why are other sixty

somethings still besotted with music that was produced before the

Beatles, i.e. Beethoven or Mozart?



(and yes I am aware of the obvious kneejerk response that I will get to

that question; however no individual can successfully re-create the

effect that certain combinations of musical notes has on the brain and

emotions of any other individual, thus rendering musical snobbery

useless)

"I feel so suicidal even hang my rock and roll"

On Saturday, 29 June 2013 08:06:32 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:38:28 AM UTC+1, vidcapper wrote:

On 29/06/2013 02:20, Tudor Hughes wrote:



On Friday, 28 June 2013 19:05:47 UTC+1, yttiw wrote:



Why do the national weather forecasters keep giving forecasts for Glastonbury after the music has begun? It is pretty certain that few festival-goers will take time out from viewing the main (or any other) stage in order to watch the national weather forecast, and the people at home and sitting in front of their TV are not going to be affected by the Glastonbury weather. So, why bother? …..and, yes I am an insufferable cynic.







Because we are all assumed to be agog at this jamboree of juvenile crap



Given that the Rolling Stones are performing this year, probably a lot



closer to 'senile' than 'juvenile'...



Regards,



Paul Hyett, Cheltenham



Geriatric when Brucie takes to the stage on Sunday..........

What I find so very interesting is the 'yut' seem to listen in their younger years to a far wider range of music then we did in my day. For example as a working class teen in the sixties I would never dare to like Bing, Louis Frank , Nat or even Englebert and Tom, as they represent 'that' older generation but as the rapid pace of pop/folk/rock music moved on then your heroes were then shunned by the next lot of oiks growing up.

I can clearly remember the late sixties as the Beatles were increasingly seen as light -weight as Clapton and Hendrix took the centre stage and then a whole raft of super groups. I knew the change had come when spotty fifth formers started bring in 'Albums' as opposed to LP's . A show suddenly became a 'Gig'. . Yes those were the days my friend.

However as I grew older I love all the popular stuff my parents and grandparents loved, I always liked classical and the song book of the world for the last several hundred years is just incredible. The only music I've never really gone for is Jazz though I do like Miles Davis and say Cannonball Aderly. However back to my point: Yes the younger generations today as shown by Glastonbury do tend to have a much wider taste with no hang ups as to whether the mum and dad liked it. I suppose music once was a way of stating who you were but that doesn't seem to be the case nowadays. Maybe two main factors has been the internet and the music nowadays just isn't as good.

It's surprising though how people adopt different taste and usually so one can look 'right on'. Take Garvey for example in his spare time (lots of it as he doesn't get a lot of work) he likes to don his baseball cap take his vinyl to the local 'yut' clubs in Dawlish and spin the vinyl keeping it real. if ya get me bro. He really is the 'Snoop Dog of Dawlish' more though of a 'Droop Dog according to his wife. But respecttttt.......to him as doesn't like to boast about it but if you could see him with his gold chains, his cap turned to the side , his book on correct use of apostrophe's in one hand and a couple of 'Ho's' in the other your perception of him would change forever. Yeah Bitch Slapping Droop Dawg Dawlish is in da house, you know what I'm sayin' , bro?

Neil Young and Lenny Cohen were excellent when they performed and I'd call their music a bit more than 'ppo'.

I'm a fan of a local band who I think are brilliant & are perforning at Glastonbury for the 2nd time

On youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinjvBkOADo (2011 appearance) They can be quite Jethro Tullish at times. A band I saw in Penzance in the now defunct Winter Gardens. Now another faceless cafe/bar/restaurant.

I'll be seeing them in Falmouth shortly.

Graham

A rather more professional recording, prog rock / fold combination to me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67EUKQikP2k

A rather depressing number of patronising posts in this thread, everyone's entitled to their own taste. Classical music is not inherently superior, though fans of it seem to consder it such.

Graham

In message ,
Lawrence13 writes


Shame because we missed 'jumpin' Jack Flash, Get off of My Cloud, and
possibly 'Lets spend the night together'. Nothing personal of course
Jim.;-)


Something made me smile I said to SWMBO ' who's the fat bloke on guitar
?'

Didn't realise it was Mick Taylor.
--


Jim

In message ,
Tudor Hughes writes



Yes they were. :-) Being ****ed at parties with wall-to-wall crumpet.
But why do you get sixty-somethings who are still besotted by The
Beatles? Pathetic!

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



I'm a sixty-something and still like the Beatles but I'm not besotted by
any means; but for their time and genre, essentially pop, they were the
best. Taken in context their music remains as good today as it ever was.
At least that's what I think but what do I know ? After all I like the
Arctic Monkeys, Muse even Portishead. I'm also looking forward to our
annual festival of Manx and other Celt music

http://www.ynchruinnaght.com/

It's all subjective, each to their own.

Wouldn't mind going back to being ****ed at parties with wall to wall
crumpet though. Only snag I certainly got ****ed at a few parties but
always seemed to miss out on the parties with wall to wall crumpet !
;-))



Cheers

--


Jim

On Monday, July 1, 2013 7:13:24 PM UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
A rather more professional recording, prog rock / fold combination to me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67EUKQikP2k



A rather depressing number of patronising posts in this thread, everyone's entitled to their own taste. Classical music is not inherently superior, though fans of it seem to consder it such.



Graham

Well said Honky Tonk!

On 01/07/2013 18:01, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Saturday, 29 June 2013 08:06:32 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:

What I find so very interesting is the 'yut' seem to listen in their younger years to a far wider range of music then we did in my day. For example as a working class teen in the sixties I would never dare to like Bing, Louis Frank , Nat or even Englebert and Tom, as they represent 'that' older generation but as the rapid pace of pop/folk/rock music moved on then your heroes were then shunned by the next lot of oiks growing up.

I can clearly remember the late sixties as the Beatles were increasingly seen as light -weight as Clapton and Hendrix took the centre stage and then a whole raft of super groups. I knew the change had come when spotty fifth formers started bring in 'Albums' as opposed to LP's . A show suddenly became a 'Gig'. . Yes those were the days my friend.

However as I grew older I love all the popular stuff my parents and grandparents loved, I always liked classical and the song book of the world for the last several hundred years is just incredible. The only music I've never really gone for is Jazz though I do like Miles Davis and say Cannonball Aderly. However back to my point: Yes the younger generations today as shown by Glastonbury do tend to have a much wider taste with no hang ups as to whether the mum and dad liked it. I suppose music once was a way of stating who you were but that doesn't seem to be the case nowadays. Maybe two main factors has been the internet and the music nowadays just isn't as good.

It's surprising though how people adopt different taste and usually so one can look 'right on'. Take Garvey for example in his spare time (lots of it as he doesn't get a lot of work) he likes to don his baseball cap take his vinyl to the local 'yut' clubs in Dawlish and spin the vinyl keeping it real. if ya get me bro. He really is the 'Snoop Dog of Dawlish' more though of a 'Droop Dog according to his wife. But respecttttt.......to him as doesn't like to boast about it but if you could see him with his gold chains, his cap turned to the side , his book on correct use of apostrophe's in one hand and a couple of 'Ho's' in the other your perception of him would change forever. Yeah Bitch Slapping Droop Dawg Dawlish is in da house, you know what I'm sayin' , bro?



Good post. Classical and jazz music to feature later in life for many,
as they are more complex in their understanding, especially jazz.

On Monday, 1 July 2013 06:35:39 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Tudor Hughes wrote: On Sunday, 30 June 2013 12:40:17 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote: Yes, spot on Col on that one. True musicians like most genres of music provided the players are competetent. Oh no they don't, Dave. Believe me; I know a lot of professional and semi-pro musicians. They will certainly appreciate the technical competence of the muso's while at the same time finding the style not to their liking one little bit and making fairly rude remarks about it. This also applies to playing where professional muso's may have to play stuff they basically despise simply to earn a crust. It's a precarious existence and one I'm glad I'm not good enough to have to deal with. In fact I made a vow as I got older not to criticise modern pop music as my parents did with the Stones etc. I don't like a lot of it but it doesn't mean it's bad or young people shouldn't be allowed to. Pop music is all about being a teenager and probably in love and things hit you in a different way then. Those were the days! Yes they were.. :-) Being ****ed at parties with wall-to-wall crumpet. But why do you get sixty-somethings who are still besotted by The Beatles? Pathetic! Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. Tudor, could you please a proper new-reader or at least do something about quoting properly so that we don't have to guess as to who is saying what? -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. A lot of care homes use computer games to keep their residents physically active. That's why old people smell of wii. [https://twitter.com/BridgetandJoan]

Sorry - that's New Google Groups for you. It arbitrarily decided to switch from the Old Groups a week or so ago and is frankly rubbish. It may switch back as it's done it in the past. I've no idea what it's up to and frankly not exactly in the mood to investigate given the abuse one is liable to get for no good reason. I'm sure everything will be much more agreeable in the COL discussion group, weather only, Dawlish-free zone. It doesn't get much better than that.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On Monday, July 1, 2013 7:13:24 PM UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:


A rather depressing number of patronising posts in this thread, everyone's entitled to their own taste. Classical music is not inherently superior, though fans of it seem to consder it such.

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Agreed, and it's equally depressing that the point has to be made. It's not like one cannot appreciate all sorts of music, and kinds of genres therein..

I love classical but it depends on which. I love all kinds of folk, blues (especially delta blues), bluegrass, swing, rock and even the dreaded 'pop' - including house and trip hop, for example - but by no means all. It depends what it is. And different music is appropriate at different times and in different places. I'd rather not pigeon-hole myself or anybody else.

Possibly my favourite (although I hate appending that word) piece of music (and it had dam' well be played at my funeral) is Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis, by Ralph Vaughan Williams. It never fails to move and exalt, to send shivers up the spine and pump adrenalin through every organ. Neither does Mozart's Requiem in D Minor, nor Barber's Adagio for Strings nor Allegri's Miserere.

But these also move me, to highlight just a few of the more well-known tunes in my 'favourites' list, from every decade since the 60s: 'And I Love Her' by the Beatles; Daavid Bowie's 'Heroes'; 'Love and Affection' by Joan Armatrading; 'Fast Car' by Tracy Chapman; Snow Patrol's 'Chasing Cars'; 'Crows in Snow' by Mike Rosenberg.

I'd far rather listen to any of those than, say, Stockhausen or John Cage's 4'33''.

Sod all to do with weather, mind you.

Stephen.