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Dave Cornwell[_4_] August 24th 13 07:31 PM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally-Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
As at 20.30 - still raining
Laindon (here) 71mm
Corringham - 76mm
Hadleigh - 89mm
Canvey island- 87mm

This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.
The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm
so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.
Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?

Dave

Ken Cook August 25th 13 08:36 AM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ...

As at 20.30 - still raining
Laindon (here) 71mm
Corringham - 76mm
Hadleigh - 89mm
Canvey island- 87mm

This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.
The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm
so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.
Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?

Hi, Dave,
Any ideas of final 24 hour totals? Those figures are impressive. I advised
No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket yesterday but football
instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see even some football was called off
down there!
Not much rain here during the day yesterday and Bishops beat Penrith.
Best wishes,
Ken
Copley, Teesdale


Dawlish August 25th 13 08:44 AM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totalslocally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
On Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:31:49 PM UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
As at 20.30 - still raining

Laindon (here) 71mm

Corringham - 76mm

Hadleigh - 89mm

Canvey island- 87mm



This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.

The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm

so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.

Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?



Dave


Goodness. It's not often that about 1/6th of a place's annual rainfall falls in one 24-hour period. Impressive - and at spring tides in a low lying area too obviously led to flooding. Good job there wasn't a NE gale, or Jan 1953 could have been repeated.

John Hall August 25th 13 09:36 AM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!


I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.
--
John Hall
"Sir, I have found you an argument;
but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

Scott W August 25th 13 09:43 AM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totalslocally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:36:54 AM UTC+1, Ken Cook wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ...



As at 20.30 - still raining

Laindon (here) 71mm

Corringham - 76mm

Hadleigh - 89mm

Canvey island- 87mm



This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.

The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm

so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.

Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?



Hi, Dave,

Any ideas of final 24 hour totals? Those figures are impressive. I advised

No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket yesterday but football

instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see even some football was called off

down there!

Not much rain here during the day yesterday and Bishops beat Penrith.

Best wishes,

Ken

Copley, Teesdale


Hello Ken / Dave. My final 09z total is 32.3mm! Easily the most I've recorded - and more remarkable that it wasn't a thundery downpour. Looking back over the record going back to 1961 at City of London cemetery the event looks like it is in the 'Top 20' of rainfall events here. I am still processing this old data so may be further down.
Looking in Gordon Manley's "Climate" this synoptic set up giving a deluge in the SE is by no means unusual...
Without being too specific, Ken, where in Wanstead does your son live - our paths have possibly crossed.

Ken Cook August 25th 13 10:13 AM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
"Scott W" wrote in message
...

Hello Ken / Dave. My final 09z total is 32.3mm! Easily the most I've
recorded - and more remarkable that it wasn't a thundery downpour. Looking
back over the record going back to 1961 at City of London cemetery the event
looks like it is in the 'Top 20' of rainfall events here. I am still
processing this old data so may be further down.
Looking in Gordon Manley's "Climate" this synoptic set up giving a deluge in
the SE is by no means unusual...
Without being too specific, Ken, where in Wanstead does your son live - our
paths have possibly crossed.

Hi, Scott,
Close to Wanstead Park. Lovely part of the world and so much to do and see
around there. I obviously read your posts with interest, he is very
impressed that I know what the weather's doing with so much accuracy!!
Best wishes,
Ken
Copley, Teesdale


Dave Cornwell[_4_] August 25th 13 10:40 AM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally-Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
Dawlish wrote:
On Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:31:49 PM UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
As at 20.30 - still raining

Laindon (here) 71mm

Corringham - 76mm

Hadleigh - 89mm

Canvey island- 87mm



This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.

The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm

so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.

Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?



Dave


Goodness. It's not often that about 1/6th of a place's annual rainfall falls in one 24-hour period. Impressive - and at spring tides in a low lying area too obviously led to flooding. Good job there wasn't a NE gale, or Jan 1953 could have been repeated.

------------------------------------
Unlikely with the new sea walls and tidal barrier but a potential
problem as tidal barriers stop water flowing out at the same time as the
tide coming in!
Dave

Dave Cornwell[_4_] August 25th 13 04:32 PM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally-Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!


I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.

-----------------------------------
....... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave

Adam Lea[_3_] August 25th 13 05:55 PM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally-Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
On 25/08/13 17:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!


I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.

-----------------------------------
...... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave


Sounds like if anything a yellow warning was insufficient. The effects
you describe sound more akin to an amber warning, possibly even a red
warning in very localised areas.

Norman[_3_] August 25th 13 06:21 PM

[WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.
 
Adam Lea wrote:

On 25/08/13 17:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!

I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.

-----------------------------------
...... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave


Sounds like if anything a yellow warning was insufficient. The effects you
describe sound more akin to an amber warning, possibly even a red warning in
very localised areas.


Yet here, where there was a yellow warning, we got only 0.2 mm. It highlights
the difficulty in pinning it down in such a way that the warnings are really
applicable. More frequent updating and fine-tuning of the warnings would be
helpful.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.


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