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Old December 4th 13, 09:31 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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So it's "Be prepared" for strong winds tomorrow. None of us can change
the weather. Heaven help if it goes up to Meto's Defcon 1 "TAKE
ACTION!". Does the MetO expect people to have a day off, and reinforce
fence panels, climb onto the roof, to secure chimneys from collapsing,
or maybe shore up large trees from falling down?

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On 04/12/2013 21:31, Joe Egginton wrote:
So it's "Be prepared" for strong winds tomorrow. None of us can change
the weather. Heaven help if it goes up to Meto's Defcon 1 "TAKE
ACTION!". Does the MetO expect people to have a day off, and reinforce
fence panels, climb onto the roof, to secure chimneys from collapsing,
or maybe shore up large trees from falling down?


Secure loose objects, avoid exposed routes if driving a high sided
vehicle, expect travel disruption so plan for longer
journeys/alternative routes, avoid the immediate seafront due to
dangerous battering waves. I'm sure people can think of other things.

It is not about "changing the weather" it is about anticipating the
problems that such weather will bring and planning contingency measures.
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On 04/12/2013 23:41, Adam Lea wrote:
On 04/12/2013 21:31, Joe Egginton wrote:
So it's "Be prepared" for strong winds tomorrow. None of us can change
the weather. Heaven help if it goes up to Meto's Defcon 1 "TAKE
ACTION!". Does the MetO expect people to have a day off, and reinforce
fence panels, climb onto the roof, to secure chimneys from collapsing,
or maybe shore up large trees from falling down?


Secure loose objects, avoid exposed routes if driving a high sided
vehicle, expect travel disruption so plan for longer
journeys/alternative routes, avoid the immediate seafront due to
dangerous battering waves. I'm sure people can think of other things.

It is not about "changing the weather" it is about anticipating the
problems that such weather will bring and planning contingency measures.



That's all obvious and plain common sense.
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On Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:41:02 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:
On 04/12/2013 21:31, Joe Egginton wrote:

So it's "Be prepared" for strong winds tomorrow. None of us can change


the weather. Heaven help if it goes up to Meto's Defcon 1 "TAKE


ACTION!". Does the MetO expect people to have a day off, and reinforce


fence panels, climb onto the roof, to secure chimneys from collapsing,


or maybe shore up large trees from falling down?




Secure loose objects, avoid exposed routes if driving a high sided

vehicle, expect travel disruption so plan for longer

journeys/alternative routes, avoid the immediate seafront due to

dangerous battering waves. I'm sure people can think of other things.



It is not about "changing the weather" it is about anticipating the

problems that such weather will bring and planning contingency measures.



Oh shut up Adam , you are such a weaselling sycophant for elf & safety cobblers.

How the &^ck do you think people grew up post and pre WWII before all this UKMO bollards.
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On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:53:22 PM UTC, wrote:
On 04/12/2013 23:41, Adam Lea wrote:

On 04/12/2013 21:31, Joe Egginton wrote:


So it's "Be prepared" for strong winds tomorrow. None of us can change


the weather. Heaven help if it goes up to Meto's Defcon 1 "TAKE


ACTION!". Does the MetO expect people to have a day off, and reinforce


fence panels, climb onto the roof, to secure chimneys from collapsing,


or maybe shore up large trees from falling down?




Secure loose objects, avoid exposed routes if driving a high sided


vehicle, expect travel disruption so plan for longer


journeys/alternative routes, avoid the immediate seafront due to


dangerous battering waves. I'm sure people can think of other things.




It is not about "changing the weather" it is about anticipating the


problems that such weather will bring and planning contingency measures.






That's all obvious and plain common sense.


And how exactly, without meteorology and the fantastic advances in weather forecasting, spearheaded by the MetO, would you know when to exercise common sense?

Are you mad?
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On 04/12/2013 21:31, Joe Egginton wrote:
So it's "Be prepared" for strong winds tomorrow. None of us can change
the weather. Heaven help if it goes up to Meto's Defcon 1 "TAKE
ACTION!". Does the MetO expect people to have a day off, and reinforce
fence panels, climb onto the roof, to secure chimneys from collapsing,
or maybe shore up large trees from falling down?


There have already been serious road traffic accidents up here caused by
people driving too fast in extremely challenging conditions where a gust
of wind can move a car over by half a lane or more - especially on the
exposed bridges. It won't take much more to cut our village off since
there are roadside trees still in leaf and now swaying violently.

People do stupid things in bad weather. The MetO are right to have
issued a warning. Securing and tying down anything that might blow away
or compromise a structure is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

There is debris flying around outside and the lights have been
flickering. I have a Thermos ready but for now we still have mains.

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Martin Brown
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On 04/12/2013 23:53, Joe Egginton wrote:
On 04/12/2013 23:41, Adam Lea wrote:
On 04/12/2013 21:31, Joe Egginton wrote:
So it's "Be prepared" for strong winds tomorrow. None of us can change
the weather. Heaven help if it goes up to Meto's Defcon 1 "TAKE
ACTION!". Does the MetO expect people to have a day off, and reinforce
fence panels, climb onto the roof, to secure chimneys from collapsing,
or maybe shore up large trees from falling down?


Secure loose objects, avoid exposed routes if driving a high sided
vehicle, expect travel disruption so plan for longer
journeys/alternative routes, avoid the immediate seafront due to
dangerous battering waves. I'm sure people can think of other things.

It is not about "changing the weather" it is about anticipating the
problems that such weather will bring and planning contingency measures.


Exactly. And the conditions today are pretty bad up here and worse
further north. Traffic was unusually light on the A19 since a big crash
this morning has already closed down one of the main feeds.


That's all obvious and plain common sense.


You mean like the "common sense" people use when they crash into
stationary traffic queues at 70+mph on motorways in dense fog.

You have to assume that the general public are morons these days
otherwise the "No win no fee" lawyers will be on your back.

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Regards,
Martin Brown

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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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Exactly. And the conditions today are pretty bad up here and worse further
north. Traffic was unusually light on the A19 since a big crash this
morning has already closed down one of the main feeds.


Martin, it would help if you could tell us where you are. 'Up here' is
hardly a precise geographic location and to those of us who are
really 'up here', the A.19 is equally imprecise.

Phil
Northern Highlands of Scotland, 40 miles N. of Inverness




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