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David Mitchell[_4_] December 18th 13 10:35 PM

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At Hillsborough tonight. I called it before kick off watching the radar on my phone. Wish I'd had a bet on it now!

David Mitchell. Home from Hillsborough. Yorkshire.

Dave Cornwell[_4_] December 18th 13 10:45 PM

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David Mitchell wrote:
At Hillsborough tonight. I called it before kick off watching the radar on my phone. Wish I'd had a bet on it now!

David Mitchell. Home from Hillsborough. Yorkshire.

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Why? Waterlogged pitch?

Dave Cornwell[_4_] December 18th 13 11:05 PM

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Dave Cornwell wrote:
David Mitchell wrote:
At Hillsborough tonight. I called it before kick off watching the
radar on my phone. Wish I'd had a bet on it now!

David Mitchell. Home from Hillsborough. Yorkshire.

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Why? Waterlogged pitch?

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Apologies if that sounded flippant. Been out (indoors)all night and
hadn't seen the main BBC headlines saying how bad things are from
several angles in the North.
Nothing dramatic here in the S.E, just a bit of heavy rain and squalls.
Dave

Lawrence Jenkins December 18th 13 11:59 PM

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On Thursday, 19 December 2013 00:05:31 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Dave Cornwell wrote:

David Mitchell wrote:


At Hillsborough tonight. I called it before kick off watching the


radar on my phone. Wish I'd had a bet on it now!




David Mitchell. Home from Hillsborough. Yorkshire.


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Why? Waterlogged pitch?


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Apologies if that sounded flippant. Been out (indoors)all night and

hadn't seen the main BBC headlines saying how bad things are from

several angles in the North.

Nothing dramatic here in the S.E, just a bit of heavy rain and squalls.

Dave


In the Stoke United game the ref called the teams of the pitch in the 1st half due to hail and visibility-totally ridiculous IMHO, as the intensity lasted about two minutes with no visible grass covering. just more Elf 'n' safety cobblers ....IMHO of course.

David Mitchell[_4_] December 19th 13 07:37 AM

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Why? Waterlogged pitch

Entirely reasonable as I didn't give a reason. Standard heavy rain, then an intense burst early in the second half was the final straw and it became a bit of a lottery.
If they had come off for 10 minutes, thy would probably have been able to finish the game, as it stopped!


John Hall December 19th 13 08:58 AM

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In article ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes:
In the Stoke United game the ref called the teams of the pitch in
the 1st half due to hail and visibility-totally ridiculous IMHO, as the
intensity lasted about two minutes with no visible grass covering.
just more Elf 'n' safety cobblers ....IMHO of course.


According to the report I heard, the hail was so bad that the players
had to shelter their eyes with their hands. Even if it wasn't unsafe
(which it sounds as though it might have been), it would have been
impossible to play proper football in those conditions. I understand
that the match soon resumed after the conditions improved, which seems
fair enough.
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

Graham P Davis December 19th 13 09:38 AM

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On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:58:23 +0000
John Hall wrote:

In article ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes:
In the Stoke United game the ref called the teams of the pitch in
the 1st half due to hail and visibility-totally ridiculous IMHO, as
the intensity lasted about two minutes with no visible grass
covering. just more Elf 'n' safety cobblers ....IMHO of course.


According to the report I heard, the hail was so bad that the players
had to shelter their eyes with their hands. Even if it wasn't unsafe
(which it sounds as though it might have been), it would have been
impossible to play proper football in those conditions. I understand
that the match soon resumed after the conditions improved, which seems
fair enough.


It was so bad, Evans lost his head.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25328569

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.
'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you
don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.'
- Bridget&Joan's Diary.

John Hall December 19th 13 09:46 AM

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In article -jade,
Graham P Davis writes:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:58:23 +0000
John Hall wrote:

In article ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes:
In the Stoke United game the ref called the teams of the pitch in
the 1st half due to hail and visibility-totally ridiculous IMHO, as
the intensity lasted about two minutes with no visible grass
covering. just more Elf 'n' safety cobblers ....IMHO of course.


According to the report I heard, the hail was so bad that the players
had to shelter their eyes with their hands. Even if it wasn't unsafe
(which it sounds as though it might have been), it would have been
impossible to play proper football in those conditions. I understand
that the match soon resumed after the conditions improved, which seems
fair enough.


It was so bad, Evans lost his head.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25328569


I notice that the referee said that visibility got so bad that he
couldn't see the players, which seems like a valid reason for suspending
play.
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

Lawrence Jenkins December 20th 13 07:50 PM

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On Thursday, 19 December 2013 09:58:23 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Lawrence Jenkins writes:

In the Stoke United game the ref called the teams of the pitch in


the 1st half due to hail and visibility-totally ridiculous IMHO, as the


intensity lasted about two minutes with no visible grass covering.


just more Elf 'n' safety cobblers ....IMHO of course.




According to the report I heard, the hail was so bad that the players

had to shelter their eyes with their hands. Even if it wasn't unsafe

(which it sounds as though it might have been), it would have been

impossible to play proper football in those conditions. I understand

that the match soon resumed after the conditions improved, which seems

fair enough.

--

..Oh the poor little babies how will they ever get over it.

David Mitchell[_4_] December 20th 13 10:24 PM

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.Oh the poor little babies how will they ever get over it.

If you'd ever been out in an intense hailstorm, you wouldn't have written that.


Lawrence Jenkins December 20th 13 10:55 PM

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On Friday, 20 December 2013 23:24:29 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:
.Oh the poor little babies how will they ever get over it.




If you'd ever been out in an intense hailstorm, you wouldn't have written that



David Mitchell

I don't know how old are but I'm 61 and I can assure you that in my prime I would have found that 'hail shower' absolute fun and equal to both sides; so stop talking in such melodratripic ways.

By the way, I made that word up

Joe Egginton[_5_] December 20th 13 11:09 PM

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On 20/12/2013 23:24, David Mitchell wrote:
.Oh the poor little babies how will they ever get over it.


If you'd ever been out in an intense hailstorm, you wouldn't have written that.



Precisley. I got caught in a thunderstorm on Bushbury Hill in
Wolverhampton. The side of my face was red raw from the hail.

Weatherlawyer December 21st 13 08:38 PM

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On Friday, 20 December 2013 23:55:04 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 20 December 2013 23:24:29 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:

.Oh the poor little babies how will they ever get over it.








If you'd ever been out in an intense hailstorm, you wouldn't have written that


Only once got caught in such an event and it lasted about as long. Llandudno paid a price though as the water pumps were out. (Or something, I forget.)

stop talking in such melowdrastric ways.


You ain't weatherlawyer. But even he enjoyed it for a certain qualification of enjoyed.


David Mitchell[_4_] December 21st 13 09:55 PM

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I don't know how old are but I'm 61 and I can assure you that in my prime I would have found that 'hail shower' absolute fun and equal to both sides; so stop talking in such melodratripic ways.



By the way, I made that word up


Mr Jenkins, I am 57, but what difference does age make to the intensity of a hailstorm? In what way am I being melodramatic, which is what I assume you meant?
Your remark was crass in the extreme.
I have had my face cut by hail when caught in the open, I was about 26 at the time and in my prime and I can assure you it was far from fun.

Lawrence Jenkins December 22nd 13 11:17 AM

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On Saturday, 21 December 2013 22:55:21 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:
I don't know how old are but I'm 61 and I can assure you that in my prime I would have found that 'hail shower' absolute fun and equal to both sides; so stop talking in such melodratripic ways.







By the way, I made that word up




Mr Jenkins, I am 57, but what difference does age make to the intensity of a hailstorm? In what way am I being melodramatic, which is what I assume you meant?

Your remark was crass in the extreme.

I have had my face cut by hail when caught in the open, I was about 26 at the time and in my prime and I can assure you it was far from fun.


Mr Mitchell perhaps I over do it but footballers have far more potential injuries to worry about than a hail shower. how far do we take it though?

Stop playing because puddles have formed and someone might drown. I'm sure the ref had a forecast from UKMO and risk assessed the game beforehand.

You see Mr Mitchell we live in a state of fear where everything is an exaggerated danger. Now there is far more serious potential danger of being stabbed walking through places like Lewisham and Peckham at night so maybe the police should bring everyone of the pitch...oops streets.

Anyhow if the match had been refereed by Mark Hailsey instead of Mark Clatteredberg then no doubt it would have continued.

Dawlish December 22nd 13 02:51 PM

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On Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:17:07 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 21 December 2013 22:55:21 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:

I don't know how old are but I'm 61 and I can assure you that in my prime I would have found that 'hail shower' absolute fun and equal to both sides; so stop talking in such melodratripic ways.
















By the way, I made that word up








Mr Jenkins, I am 57, but what difference does age make to the intensity of a hailstorm? In what way am I being melodramatic, which is what I assume you meant?




Your remark was crass in the extreme.




I have had my face cut by hail when caught in the open, I was about 26 at the time and in my prime and I can assure you it was far from fun.




Mr Mitchell perhaps I over do it but footballers have far more potential injuries to worry about than a hail shower. how far do we take it though?



Stop playing because puddles have formed and someone might drown. I'm sure the ref had a forecast from UKMO and risk assessed the game beforehand.



You see Mr Mitchell we live in a state of fear where everything is an exaggerated danger. Now there is far more serious potential danger of being stabbed walking through places like Lewisham and Peckham at night so maybe the police should bring everyone of the pitch...oops streets.



Anyhow if the match had been refereed by Mark Hailsey instead of Mark Clatteredberg then no doubt it would have continued.


Always the same crappy and far right-wing agenda driven criticism of the MetO. No-one is convinced by it.

I'm sure that if you tripped over a paving stone outside your house and broke your arm, your first call on return from the hospital would be to a personal injury helpline.

Lawrence Jenkins December 22nd 13 03:27 PM

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On Sunday, 22 December 2013 15:51:37 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:17:07 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Saturday, 21 December 2013 22:55:21 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:




I don't know how old are but I'm 61 and I can assure you that in my prime I would have found that 'hail shower' absolute fun and equal to both sides; so stop talking in such melodratripic ways.
































By the way, I made that word up
















Mr Jenkins, I am 57, but what difference does age make to the intensity of a hailstorm? In what way am I being melodramatic, which is what I assume you meant?








Your remark was crass in the extreme.








I have had my face cut by hail when caught in the open, I was about 26 at the time and in my prime and I can assure you it was far from fun.








Mr Mitchell perhaps I over do it but footballers have far more potential injuries to worry about than a hail shower. how far do we take it though?








Stop playing because puddles have formed and someone might drown. I'm sure the ref had a forecast from UKMO and risk assessed the game beforehand.








You see Mr Mitchell we live in a state of fear where everything is an exaggerated danger. Now there is far more serious potential danger of being stabbed walking through places like Lewisham and Peckham at night so maybe the police should bring everyone of the pitch...oops streets.








Anyhow if the match had been refereed by Mark Hailsey instead of Mark Clatteredberg then no doubt it would have continued.




Always the same crappy and far right-wing agenda driven criticism of the MetO. No-one is convinced by it.



I'm sure that if you tripped over a paving stone outside your house and broke your arm, your first call on return from the hospital would be to a personal injury helpline.


I thought we had an agreement?


If you think I would do that then clearly you know nothing about me .


We live in a blame culture and its all the fault of people like you!!!!!!!!

Dawlish December 22nd 13 05:04 PM

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On Sunday, December 22, 2013 4:27:47 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Sunday, 22 December 2013 15:51:37 UTC, Dawlish wrote:

On Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:17:07 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:




On Saturday, 21 December 2013 22:55:21 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:








I don't know how old are but I'm 61 and I can assure you that in my prime I would have found that 'hail shower' absolute fun and equal to both sides; so stop talking in such melodratripic ways.
































































By the way, I made that word up
































Mr Jenkins, I am 57, but what difference does age make to the intensity of a hailstorm? In what way am I being melodramatic, which is what I assume you meant?
















Your remark was crass in the extreme.
















I have had my face cut by hail when caught in the open, I was about 26 at the time and in my prime and I can assure you it was far from fun.
















Mr Mitchell perhaps I over do it but footballers have far more potential injuries to worry about than a hail shower. how far do we take it though?
















Stop playing because puddles have formed and someone might drown. I'm sure the ref had a forecast from UKMO and risk assessed the game beforehand.
















You see Mr Mitchell we live in a state of fear where everything is an exaggerated danger. Now there is far more serious potential danger of being stabbed walking through places like Lewisham and Peckham at night so maybe the police should bring everyone of the pitch...oops streets.
















Anyhow if the match had been refereed by Mark Hailsey instead of Mark Clatteredberg then no doubt it would have continued.








Always the same crappy and far right-wing agenda driven criticism of the MetO. No-one is convinced by it.








I'm sure that if you tripped over a paving stone outside your house and broke your arm, your first call on return from the hospital would be to a personal injury helpline.




I thought we had an agreement?





If you think I would do that then clearly you know nothing about me .





We live in a blame culture and its all the fault of people like you!!!!!!!!


Idiot.

John Hall December 22nd 13 05:07 PM

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In article ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes:
Mr Mitchell perhaps I over do it but footballers have far more
potential injuries to worry about than a hail shower. how far do we
take it though?

Stop playing because puddles have formed and someone might
drown. I'm sure the ref had a forecast from UKMO and risk
assessed the game beforehand.


But the ref said that he suspended play because the hail was so bad that
he couldn't see all of the players. So it seems that his decision had
nothing to do with H&S.
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

Lawrence Jenkins December 22nd 13 05:34 PM

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On Sunday, 22 December 2013 18:07:56 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Lawrence Jenkins writes:

Mr Mitchell perhaps I over do it but footballers have far more


potential injuries to worry about than a hail shower. how far do we


take it though?




Stop playing because puddles have formed and someone might


drown. I'm sure the ref had a forecast from UKMO and risk


assessed the game beforehand.




But the ref said that he suspended play because the hail was so bad that

he couldn't see all of the players. So it seems that his decision had

nothing to do with H&S.

--



Precisely. However it was still an over reaction and we all know that these things don't last that long however the journey home does.

Graham P Davis December 22nd 13 05:42 PM

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On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:34:19 -0800 (PST)
Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Sunday, 22 December 2013 18:07:56 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Lawrence Jenkins writes:

Mr Mitchell perhaps I over do it but footballers have far more


potential injuries to worry about than a hail shower. how far do we


take it though?




Stop playing because puddles have formed and someone might


drown. I'm sure the ref had a forecast from UKMO and risk


assessed the game beforehand.




But the ref said that he suspended play because the hail was so bad
that

he couldn't see all of the players. So it seems that his decision
had

nothing to do with H&S.

--



Precisely. However it was still an over reaction and we all know that
these things don't last that long however the journey home does.


What are you waffling on about now? The players were taken off for 10
minutes. How is a 10-minute delay an over-reaction? What has the long
journey home got to do with anything?

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.
'Do your bit for climate change this holiday period by restricting your
intake at festive mealtimes to four Brussels sprouts or less.'
@3WhitehallPlace



Lawrence Jenkins December 22nd 13 06:15 PM

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On Sunday, 22 December 2013 18:42:59 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:34:19 -0800 (PST)

Lawrence Jenkins wrote:



On Sunday, 22 December 2013 18:07:56 UTC, John Hall wrote:


In article ,




Lawrence Jenkins writes:




Mr Mitchell perhaps I over do it but footballers have far more




potential injuries to worry about than a hail shower. how far do we




take it though?








Stop playing because puddles have formed and someone might




drown. I'm sure the ref had a forecast from UKMO and risk




assessed the game beforehand.








But the ref said that he suspended play because the hail was so bad


that




he couldn't see all of the players. So it seems that his decision


had




nothing to do with H&S.




--






Precisely. However it was still an over reaction and we all know that


these things don't last that long however the journey home does.




What are you waffling on about now? The players were taken off for 10

minutes. How is a 10-minute delay an over-reaction? What has the long

journey home got to do with anything?



--

Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.

'Do your bit for climate change this holiday period by restricting your

intake at festive mealtimes to four Brussels sprouts or less.'

@3WhitehallPlace


I see you hit with 'waffling' as setting out your stall so to speak. So with that in mind I say simply this: Just delaying the game for the duration of the two minute high intensity hail shower as that what it was; the game was delayed for far longer due to the official stop and start process' If you have ever been to a big premiership game you would know everyone wants to get on the road ASAP as many have to work the next day and getting out of grounds is a nightmare. Referee Clatteredicebergen by the time he stopped the game shower had already abated and the worst was over but he then had to pull everyone of because it was raining and windy. I believe the whole process delayed the game by ten minutes for something that had already peaked when the ref stopped it.

Freddie December 22nd 13 06:30 PM

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On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 18:42:59 +0000, Graham P Davis
wrote:
What are you waffling on about now?


+1

--
Freddie
Castle Pulverbatch
Shropshire
221m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports

[email protected] December 22nd 13 06:30 PM

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Col December 23rd 13 06:29 AM

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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:


If you think I would do that then clearly you know nothing about me .


We live in a blame culture and its all the fault of people like
you!!!!!!!!


LOL!
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg



Col December 23rd 13 06:30 AM

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Dawlish wrote:

We live in a blame culture and its all the fault of people like
you!!!!!!!!


Idiot.


Oh come on, that really was quite funny.

And please learn to snip.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg



Graham P Davis December 23rd 13 06:59 AM

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On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 07:30:29 -0000
"Col" wrote:

Dawlish wrote:

We live in a blame culture and its all the fault of people like
you!!!!!!!!


Idiot.


Oh come on, that really was quite funny.

And please learn to snip.


I thought he was being very snippy.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.
'Do your bit for climate change this holiday period by restricting your
intake at festive mealtimes to four Brussels sprouts or less.'
@3WhitehallPlace



Alan LeHun December 23rd 13 08:43 AM

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In article ,
says...

We live in a blame culture and its all the fault of people like you!!!!!!!!


Idiot.


Says the man who quotes 257 lines to add a one word reply.

--
Alan LeHun
Reply-to is valid. Add "BPSF" to subject: to bypass spam filters.

Dawlish December 23rd 13 08:45 AM

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On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:59:31 AM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 07:30:29 -0000
"Col" wrote:



a bit snipped for Col

And please learn to snip.


I thought he was being very snippy.


Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.


a bit more sniped for Col - good sig though

Snippy is me. You can't get much more snippy (and to the point) than "idiot" in response to larry. *))

Lawrence Jenkins December 24th 13 01:41 PM

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Snippy is me. You can't get much more snippy (and to the point) than "idiot" in response to larry. *))


Snippy Christmas to one and all


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