Taken this morning about two and a half hours before high tide. If it
'stutters', let it download and try again.

I've heard that the road was closed later and that conditions on the sea
front were the worst for many years. We didn't bother to investigate!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24261494/Hburgh.mp4

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

Alan White wrote:
Taken this morning about two and a half hours before high tide. If it
'stutters', let it download and try again.

I've heard that the road was closed later and that conditions on the
sea front were the worst for many years. We didn't bother to
investigate!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24261494/Hburgh.mp4

I see you (and quite a few others) completely ignored the advice
to stay away from the sea in such conditions.

And a good job too, if everybody did as they were told we'd
never get any interesting footage like this, let alone those
spectacular wave photos you sometimes see.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

In article ,
Col writes:
I see you (and quite a few others) completely ignored the advice
to stay away from the sea in such conditions.

I noticed on the one o'clock news that the BBC's reporters didn't seem
to think that the advice to stay away from the sea applied to
themselves. How much risk were they justified in exposing themselves and
their cameramen to in order to get good footage? Not much sign of an H&S
culture there, so Lawrence should have been pleased.
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Col writes:
I see you (and quite a few others) completely ignored the advice
to stay away from the sea in such conditions.

I noticed on the one o'clock news that the BBC's reporters didn't seem
to think that the advice to stay away from the sea applied to
themselves. How much risk were they justified in exposing themselves
and their cameramen to in order to get good footage? Not much sign of
an H&S culture there, so Lawrence should have been pleased.

Exactly.
On the 6 O'Clock News they made a rather sanctimonious comment
about somebody taking a snapshot of the sea, yet the person filming
him doing it was almost as close!
More than a little hypocrisy here I think.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

On 03/01/2014 18:30, John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Col writes:
I see you (and quite a few others) completely ignored the advice
to stay away from the sea in such conditions.

I noticed on the one o'clock news that the BBC's reporters didn't seem
to think that the advice to stay away from the sea applied to
themselves. How much risk were they justified in exposing themselves and
their cameramen to in order to get good footage? Not much sign of an H&S
culture there, so Lawrence should have been pleased.


Perhaps the reporters have more experience of how close they can get
without putting themselves at needless risk than the average member of
the public. It is part of their job after all to report on these events.

A bit like storm chasers in the US who criticize those who do the same
who are ignorant and take stupid risks, that doesn't make the storm
chasers hypocritical.

I don't think the advice to stay away from the sea in such conditions is
unreasonable, bearing in mind it is aimed at the public in general. It
is not exactly an essential activity to go and take photos and if people
get it wrong then it means the emergency services or the coastguard
having to put themselves at risk to bail them out.

On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:41:05 +0000, Adam Lea
wrote:

I don't think the advice to stay away from the sea in such conditions is
unreasonable, bearing in mind it is aimed at the public in general. It
is not exactly an essential activity to go and take photos and if people
get it wrong then it means the emergency services or the coastguard
having to put themselves at risk to bail them out.

I'm starting to feel guilty. We only went to do a bit of shopping,
honest.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:41:05 +0000, Adam Lea
wrote:

I don't think the advice to stay away from the sea in such
conditions is unreasonable, bearing in mind it is aimed at the
public in general. It is not exactly an essential activity to go and
take photos and if people get it wrong then it means the emergency
services or the coastguard having to put themselves at risk to bail
them out.

I'm starting to feel guilty. We only went to do a bit of shopping,
honest.

I wasn't criticising you, in fact I was saying that it was good that
people were taking such interesting footage.

At most there seemed to be about 2 inches of water sloshing
across the road, I don't know how much it would take to float
a car off it's wheels but I imagine much more than that so I very
much doubt you were in any real danger.

Besides, I'm sure they would have closed the road if you were.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

On 04/01/2014 09:17, Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:41:05 +0000, Adam Lea
wrote:

I don't think the advice to stay away from the sea in such conditions is
unreasonable, bearing in mind it is aimed at the public in general. It
is not exactly an essential activity to go and take photos and if people
get it wrong then it means the emergency services or the coastguard
having to put themselves at risk to bail them out.

I'm starting to feel guilty. We only went to do a bit of shopping,
honest.



I wasn't criticizing you, I was attempting to counter the implication
that it is wrong for officials to advise people to avoid the coastline
in dangerous sea conditions.

I appreciate health and safety can go over the top occasionally but I
don't think severe weather advice in this case comes into that category.

On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:41:05 +0000, Adam Lea wrote:

I noticed on the one o'clock news that the BBC's reporters didn't
seem
to think that the advice to stay away from the sea applied to
themselves. How much risk were they justified in exposing
themselves
and their cameramen to in order to get good footage? Not much sign
of
an H&S culture there, so Lawrence should have been pleased.

Perhaps the reporters have more experience of how close they can get
without putting themselves at needless risk than the average member of
the public. It is part of their job after all to report on these events.

coughsplutter What! Part of the qualifications of being a
reporter is to have had ones common sense removed. They also tend to
be young and thus not overly aware of the dangers that you become
aware of from near misses as you age. How deep do you think moving
water needs to be before there is a real danger of it having you off
your feet? How much water needs to hit you with moderate force to
knock you over?

I don't think the advice to stay away from the sea in such conditions is
unreasonable, bearing in mind it is aimed at the public in general.

I agree, how many deaths have there been in the last week or so from
people being swept into the sea or ending up in a swollen river. I've
lost count, more than half a dozen for sure, a dozen, more?

It is not exactly an essential activity to go and take photos and if
people get it wrong then it means the emergency services or the
coastguard having to put themselves at risk to bail them out.

End up in the sea with waves breaking onto the defences worth taking
pictures of and all the services can do is look for your body. You
won't last long, if you don't drown you'll be bashed against the
rocks or concrete with considerable force.

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.

On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:48:32 -0000, "Col"
wrote:

I see you (and quite a few others) completely ignored the advice
to stay away from the sea in such conditions.

It was a question of the sea staying away from us! It didn't.

The video barely captures the real event which was quite spectacular.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather