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On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:41:05 +0000, Adam Lea
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I don't think the advice to stay away from the sea in such conditions is
unreasonable, bearing in mind it is aimed at the public in general. It
is not exactly an essential activity to go and take photos and if people
get it wrong then it means the emergency services or the coastguard
having to put themselves at risk to bail them out.


I'm starting to feel guilty. We only went to do a bit of shopping,
honest.

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Why are the tides so high at this time of year (leaving aside the
weather effect) - I thought they were supposed to be highest around the
equinoxes?


Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


They are normally biggest near the equinox, but there are other astronomical factors at work apart from the angle of the Earth to the sun, I'll leave it to the astronomers on this group to explain, meaning I'd only be making inspired guesses (distance to the moon etc). This years distribution of high spring tides is very unusual.

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Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:41:05 +0000, Adam Lea
wrote:

I don't think the advice to stay away from the sea in such
conditions is unreasonable, bearing in mind it is aimed at the
public in general. It is not exactly an essential activity to go and
take photos and if people get it wrong then it means the emergency
services or the coastguard having to put themselves at risk to bail
them out.


I'm starting to feel guilty. We only went to do a bit of shopping,
honest.


I wasn't criticising you, in fact I was saying that it was good that
people were taking such interesting footage.

At most there seemed to be about 2 inches of water sloshing
across the road, I don't know how much it would take to float
a car off it's wheels but I imagine much more than that so I very
much doubt you were in any real danger.

Besides, I'm sure they would have closed the road if you were.
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Graham Easterling wrote:
Why are the tides so high at this time of year (leaving aside the
weather effect) - I thought they were supposed to be highest around
the equinoxes?


Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


They are normally biggest near the equinox, but there are other
astronomical factors at work apart from the angle of the Earth to the
sun, I'll leave it to the astronomers on this group to explain,
meaning I'd only be making inspired guesses (distance to the moon
etc). This years distribution of high spring tides is very unusual.


The earth is closest to the sun at this time of year (today in fact) so this
must have a minor role to play.
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:22:10 -0000, "Col"
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I wasn't criticising you, in fact I was saying that it was good that
people were taking such interesting footage.


Thanks, Col, I didn't take it as criticism.

A lot of debris and, in places, the high water mark is on the landward
side of the road.

Like a mill pond this morning.

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On 04/01/2014 09:17, Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:41:05 +0000, Adam Lea
wrote:

I don't think the advice to stay away from the sea in such conditions is
unreasonable, bearing in mind it is aimed at the public in general. It
is not exactly an essential activity to go and take photos and if people
get it wrong then it means the emergency services or the coastguard
having to put themselves at risk to bail them out.


I'm starting to feel guilty. We only went to do a bit of shopping,
honest.



I wasn't criticizing you, I was attempting to counter the implication
that it is wrong for officials to advise people to avoid the coastline
in dangerous sea conditions.

I appreciate health and safety can go over the top occasionally but I
don't think severe weather advice in this case comes into that category.
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On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 13:08:31 +0000, Adam Lea
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I wasn't criticizing you,...


Phew, thanks, Adam.
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Ian H wrote:
Its the main road to the naval base, know it well. Only other option is a long diversion, over the hills from Loch Lomond. I guess that diversion is okay at the moment, as it does close regularly with heavy snow.
Unfortunately, from the local news (in Devon), I hear a 18 year old lad has gone missing, after going out to take a few photos of the sea near Newton Ferrers in south Devon.
What a tragedy.

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Yep, hence the warnings. One freak wave and your car is in the sea.
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On Saturday, 4 January 2014 07:24:25 UTC, vidcapper wrote:



Why are the tides so high at this time of year (leaving aside the
weather effect) - I thought they were supposed to be highest around the
equinoxes?


Nobody knows.
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On Saturday, 4 January 2014 10:25:33 UTC, Col wrote:

The earth is closest to the sun at this time of year (today in fact) so this
must have a minor role to play.


How?




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