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http://www.metoffice.com/corporate/p...r20030930.html -- Martin Rowley Web: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/ |
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http://www.metoffice.com/corporate/p...r20030930.html Thanks for this Martin. Well well - journalists will have to rewrite their stories and record books now. Have to confess, I was keeping quiet about this - I was minding my own business in the Met Office archives at Bracknell about 10 days ago when the postman arrived. He delivered a parcel. It contained a maximum thermometer. It was the faversham thermometer (I kid you not!!) after having been tested and found to be sound. I assume the Met Office have done something similar to the observer (connection to lie-detector??). I expect they are dusting off a glass case to display the thermometer right now...... :-) How can an observer not phone in such a remarkable temperature on reading it the following morning? Is the media still interested in this story though? In our fast-moving news agenda, cold weather is topical in the next few days, not hot (irony intended here!...). Will people still refer to newspapers of mid August going on about Gravesend? Julian Julian Mayes, West Molesey. Surrey. |
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![]() "martin rowley" wrote in message ... See:.......... http://www.metoffice.com/corporate/p...r20030930.html 38.5C?? You just wonder with a touch of global warming whether even 40C would be attainable in the UK in a couple of decades........ Col -- Bolton, Lancashire. 160m asl. http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk |
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Of course, if they increased the number of stations....It was 40C somewhere
around South London\Kent that day, that's for sure. |
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On 30 Sep 2003 19:38:16 GMT, (JJCMayes1) wrote:
See:.......... http://www.metoffice.com/corporate/p...r20030930.html Thanks for this Martin. Well well - journalists will have to rewrite their stories and record books now. Have to confess, I was keeping quiet about this - I was minding my own business in the Met Office archives at Bracknell about 10 days ago when the postman arrived. He delivered a parcel. It contained a maximum thermometer. It was the faversham thermometer (I kid you not!!) after having been tested and found to be sound. I assume the Met Office have done something similar to the observer (connection to lie-detector??). I expect they are dusting off a glass case to display the thermometer right now...... :-) Hehe... How can an observer not phone in such a remarkable temperature on reading it the following morning? Indeed!. Unless he *did* phone it in but the Met Office kept quiet about it. They did say in August that not all the readings were in. If he didn't, I'll be suspicious of it unless its an automated station read periodically. Would love to know more about the circumstances. The excess over the old Cheltenham record (1degC) simply amazes me. Is the media still interested in this story though? In our fast-moving news agenda, cold weather is topical in the next few days, not hot (irony intended here!...). Will people still refer to newspapers of mid August going on about Gravesend? For a while but you can be sure that word will get out... it's quite a coup for the owners of the home of the National Fruit Collections: http://www.brogdale.org/html/visit_us.html Some background for people who don't know the exact location: Brogdale is just South of Faversham, half a mile due West of M2 junction 6, about 100 metres South of the M2 carriageway. Altitude is 41m amsl and it's 5 miles North of the North Downs summits (170m to 200m amsl). So, in the lee of the Southerlies that day, which may explain the record. I for one would visit the site if in the area, so it's bound to be good for business if and when the news gets out. No mention of the record on their website, yet. It's a MUCH nicer location than Gravesend Broadness ![]() BTW, if this message also gets through under my spamproof alias of "d", apologies for the accidental duplication! -- Dave |
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Of course, if they increased the number of stations....It was 40C somewhere
around South London\Kent that day, that's for sure. How do you know? TH |
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Of course, I don't know for sure....
I think it is 75% likely if there were two official weather stations in every town\village (ok a fantasy), then the magic fourty would probably have been recorded.... it's a good chance that somewhere just inland of Faversham, away from the coast, would have been even warmer. How do you know? TH |
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![]() "Dave Ludlow" wrote in message ... For a while but you can be sure that word will get out... it's quite a coup for the owners of the home of the National Fruit Collections: http://www.brogdale.org/html/visit_us.html Some background for people who don't know the exact location: Brogdale is just South of Faversham, half a mile due West of M2 junction 6, about 100 metres South of the M2 carriageway. Altitude is 41m amsl and it's 5 miles North of the North Downs summits (170m to 200m amsl). So, in the lee of the Southerlies that day, which may explain the record. Can we decide to call it 'Faversham' please, rather than Brogdale, or Bogdale as I'm sure some will accidentally write/say? Brogdale does not appear on my 1:50000 OS map for a start. It may well be that it's a commercial name rather than a historic/geographic one (can anyone who lives locally confirm?). And the station is a darn site nearer to Faversham than Gravesend is to Gravesend, if you see what I mean. And it was always called "Faversham" in the good old days when all these stations appeared in the Monthly Weather Report. And, and, and .... Philip Eden |
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:18:50 +0100, "Philip Eden"
philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote: Can we decide to call it 'Faversham' please, rather than Brogdale, or Bogdale as I'm sure some will accidentally write/say? Brogdale does not appear on my 1:50000 OS map for a start. It may well be that it's a commercial name rather than a historic/geographic one (can anyone who lives locally confirm?). It's a historic site, Philip, appearing on Victorian mapping. http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ (do an address search there, for the postcode ME13 8XZ ) or, on currrent mapping, http://tinyurl.com/pbw5 Brogdale seems to be a former privately owned estate but now it's owned (or run) by the Brogdale Horticultural Trust. It seems to be of National importance horticulturally, being the home of the National Fruit Collections. Here's another link covering this aspect (I posted the Trust's own website address in my previous message): http://www.foodloversbritain.com/org...ation-560.html And the station is a darn site nearer to Faversham than Gravesend is to Gravesend, if you see what I mean. And it was always called "Faversham" in the good old days when all these stations appeared in the Monthly Weather Report. And, and, and .... Hehe, try telling that to the BBC Weather presenters, who were saying "Brogdale in North Kent" this afternoon on News 24 (no mention of Faversham at all). Brogdale is a mere 1.2 miles SSW of Faversham Town Hall (albeit in open country) but in view of the site's apparent National importance, it's possible that both names will be used in the media. Faversham Brogdale? I'll go with the flow... -- Dave |
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