Hi

I've spent the last couple of days wracked in pain from my first (and hopefully last) attack of shingles whilst writing an application to total rainfall up for this winter for the UK from the SYNOP observations that I download from FSU.

As well as a tabulated/ranked list of the accumulations, which Capel Curig is currently top of, there are a couple of plotted UK maps which I didn't contour, although its easy to see the wet spots. Hopefully I've got my logic right, and these totals that I've grabbed from the 0600 & 1800 UTC SYNOP observations are correct!

As far as I can see, it maybe that after today's rainfall, Haytor will beat Shap to 1000 mm, and be the wettest place at least in England, so far this winter.

Bruce.

http://xmetman.wordpress.com/2014/02...infall-totals/

On Friday, February 14, 2014 12:32:30 PM UTC, exmetman wrote:
Hi



I've spent the last couple of days wracked in pain from my first (and hopefully last) attack of shingles whilst writing an application to total rainfall up for this winter for the UK from the SYNOP observations that I download from FSU.



As well as a tabulated/ranked list of the accumulations, which Capel Curig is currently top of, there are a couple of plotted UK maps which I didn't contour, although its easy to see the wet spots. Hopefully I've got my logic right, and these totals that I've grabbed from the 0600 & 1800 UTC SYNOP observations are correct!



As far as I can see, it maybe that after today's rainfall, Haytor will beat Shap to 1000 mm, and be the wettest place at least in England, so far this winter.



Bruce.



http://xmetman.wordpress.com/2014/02...infall-totals/

Thanks Bruce. The map shows good correlation with my own figure of 240mm in Wanstead so far to 09z today. What I find remarkable is that just 17 miles from me, across the Thames at Kenley, there has been 524mm recorded - that's 220% of my total.

What is your total to 09z today, Tudor? And what is your winter average?

On Friday, 14 February 2014 12:32:30 UTC, exmetman wrote:
Hi



I've spent the last couple of days wracked in pain from my first (and hopefully last) attack of shingles whilst writing an application to total rainfall up for this winter for the UK from the SYNOP observations that I download from FSU.



As well as a tabulated/ranked list of the accumulations, which Capel Curig is currently top of, there are a couple of plotted UK maps which I didn't contour, although its easy to see the wet spots. Hopefully I've got my logic right, and these totals that I've grabbed from the 0600 & 1800 UTC SYNOP observations are correct!



As far as I can see, it maybe that after today's rainfall, Haytor will beat Shap to 1000 mm, and be the wettest place at least in England, so far this winter.



Bruce.



http://xmetman.wordpress.com/2014/02...infall-totals/

Hello, Bruce,
Hope you're recovering well and thanks for the post.
Any chance of getting the figures from climat. site and not just SYNOP? I wrote in Will's Haytor post that I suspect there are some parts around Borrowdale where 1000mm in winter is not unusual.
Big bugbear of mine is that MetO are slow to report any figures from MetO official manual sites even though we send them in every morning. I know from MetO staff that they are analysed daily so why not use them?
The SYNOP network is only a small part of the rainfall observing system so to say these are the wettest, coldest, warmest etc for the whole country is misleading.
Ken
Copley, Teesdale

On Friday, 14 February 2014 14:03:27 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:


Hello, Bruce,

Hope you're recovering well and thanks for the post.

Any chance of getting the figures from climat. site and not just SYNOP? I wrote in Will's Haytor post that I suspect there are some parts around Borrowdale where 1000mm in winter is not unusual.

Big bugbear of mine is that MetO are slow to report any figures from MetO official manual sites even though we send them in every morning. I know from MetO staff that they are analysed daily so why not use them?

The SYNOP network is only a small part of the rainfall observing system so to say these are the wettest, coldest, warmest etc for the whole country is misleading.

Ken

Copley, Teesdale

Hi, Bruce and all,
I'll post to this thread as the Haytor one has been lost to the bickerers.

LONG TERM AVERAGES, Seathwaite for the months in question
Dec 393.2mm
Jan 408.2mm
Feb 320.0mm
Season average 1121.4mm
Annual average 3098.8mm
Annual average on Seathwaite Fell gauges 4699.0mm

1000mm for winter is below average there!

Ken,
Copley

On Friday, 14 February 2014 13:10:03 UTC, Scott W wrote:
On Friday, February 14, 2014 12:32:30 PM UTC, exmetman wrote: Hi I've spent the last couple of days wracked in pain from my first (and hopefully last) attack of shingles whilst writing an application to total rainfall up for this winter for the UK from the SYNOP observations that I download from FSU. As well as a tabulated/ranked list of the accumulations, which Capel Curig is currently top of, there are a couple of plotted UK maps which I didn't contour, although its easy to see the wet spots. Hopefully I've got my logic right, and these totals that I've grabbed from the 0600 & 1800 UTC SYNOP observations are correct! As far as I can see, it maybe that after today's rainfall, Haytor will beat Shap to 1000 mm, and be the wettest place at least in England, so far this winter. Bruce. http://xmetman.wordpress.com/2014/02...infall-totals/

Thanks Bruce. The map shows good correlation with my own figure of 240mm in Wanstead so far to 09z today. What I find remarkable is that just 17 miles from me, across the Thames at Kenley, there has been 524mm recorded - that's 220% of my total. What is your total to 09z today, Tudor? And what is your winter average?

Hi, Scott - the total here up to this morning is 51l mm and there is moderate to heavy rain as I write. The normals for Dec, Jan and Feb are 86, 86 and 60 mm respectively. Taking a proportion of the February average my total is 256% of normal since 1 Dec.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.

"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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On Friday, 14 February 2014 13:10:03 UTC, Scott W wrote:
On Friday, February 14, 2014 12:32:30 PM UTC, exmetman wrote: Hi
I've spent the last couple of days wracked in pain from my first (and
hopefully last) attack of shingles whilst writing an application to total
rainfall up for this winter for the UK from the SYNOP observations that I
download from FSU. As well as a tabulated/ranked list of the
accumulations, which Capel Curig is currently top of, there are a couple
of plotted UK maps which I didn't contour, although its easy to see the
wet spots. Hopefully I've got my logic right, and these totals that I've
grabbed from the 0600 & 1800 UTC SYNOP observations are correct!
As far as I can see, it maybe that after today's rainfall, Haytor will
beat Shap to 1000 mm, and be the wettest place at least in England, so far
this winter. Bruce.
http://xmetman.wordpress.com/2014/02...infall-totals/

Thanks Bruce. The map shows good correlation with my own figure of 240mm in
Wanstead so far to 09z today. What I find remarkable is that just 17 miles
from me, across the Thames at Kenley, there has been 524mm recorded - that's
220% of my total. What is your total to 09z today, Tudor? And what is your
winter average?

Hi, Scott - the total here up to this morning is 51l mm and there is
moderate to heavy rain as I write. The normals for Dec, Jan and Feb are 86,
86 and 60 mm respectively. Taking a proportion of the February average my
total is 256% of normal since 1 Dec.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.

According to J H Brazell's London Weather,the wettest winter at Kew (by far)
was 1914/15 with a total of 357mm,which is way below Tudors total to date
,presumably the Surrey heights must have produced even more than this year
but I don' t suppose there was a rain recorder there at the time.
Anyone with the annual rainfall statistics like Philip Eden could come up
with some interesting facts ,maybe his weekly peice in the Sunday Torygraph
will reveal some ......


RonB

On Friday, February 14, 2014 4:11:14 PM UTC, ron button wrote:
"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message ... On Friday, 14 February 2014 13:10:03 UTC, Scott W wrote: On Friday, February 14, 2014 12:32:30 PM UTC, exmetman wrote: Hi I've spent the last couple of days wracked in pain from my first (and hopefully last) attack of shingles whilst writing an application to total rainfall up for this winter for the UK from the SYNOP observations that I download from FSU. As well as a tabulated/ranked list of the accumulations, which Capel Curig is currently top of, there are a couple of plotted UK maps which I didn't contour, although its easy to see the wet spots. Hopefully I've got my logic right, and these totals that I've grabbed from the 0600 & 1800 UTC SYNOP observations are correct! As far as I can see, it maybe that after today's rainfall, Haytor will beat Shap to 1000 mm, and be the wettest place at least in England, so far this winter. Bruce. http://xmetman.wordpress.com/2014/02...infall-totals/ Thanks Bruce. The map shows good correlation with my own figure of 240mm in Wanstead so far to 09z today. What I find remarkable is that just 17 miles from me, across the Thames at Kenley, there has been 524mm recorded - that's 220% of my total. What is your total to 09z today, Tudor? And what is your winter average? Hi, Scott - the total here up to this morning is 51l mm and there is moderate to heavy rain as I write. The normals for Dec, Jan and Feb are 86, 86 and 60 mm respectively. Taking a proportion of the February average my total is 256% of normal since 1 Dec. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft.. According to J H Brazell's London Weather,the wettest winter at Kew (by far) was 1914/15 with a total of 357mm,which is way below Tudors total to date ,presumably the Surrey heights must have produced even more than this year but I don' t suppose there was a rain recorder there at the time. Anyone with the annual rainfall statistics like Philip Eden could come up with some interesting facts ,maybe his weekly peice in the Sunday Torygraph will reveal some ...... RonB

Hi Ron, the 6.4mm (so far) today has pushed my locality into 4th place, considering totals going back to 1881.
1. 343.7 (1914/15) Mean 5.1C
2. 260.5 (1989/90) Mean 7.8C
3. 249.4 (1994/95) Mean 7.1C
4. 246.7 (2013/14) Mean 6.5C
5. 241.7 (1915/16) Mean 6.2C
6. 237.9 (1950/51) Mean 3.7C

Looking at the charts this winter is likely to finish as third wettest here

Ken

You're correct Ken about SYNOPs, but its the only data that I can get, and that's only thanks to the Yanks.

I would love to get at the National Climate Message [NCM] that each observing station send into Exeter at 0900 and 2100 each day. I find nothing when I search both the Florida State and Albany sites. If anyone knows where I can find NCM text bulletins to download they would make me a very happy man!

Bruce.

I've just downloaded the latest rainfall totals for 1800 and Capel Curig has broken through the 1000 mm barrier with a total since 1 Dec 2013 of 1005.1 mm!

"Ken Cook" wrote in message
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On Friday, 14 February 2014 14:03:27 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:


Hello, Bruce,

Hope you're recovering well and thanks for the post.

Any chance of getting the figures from climat. site and not just SYNOP? I
wrote in Will's Haytor post that I suspect there are some parts around
Borrowdale where 1000mm in winter is not unusual.

Big bugbear of mine is that MetO are slow to report any figures from MetO
official manual sites even though we send them in every morning. I know
from MetO staff that they are analysed daily so why not use them?

The SYNOP network is only a small part of the rainfall observing system
so to say these are the wettest, coldest, warmest etc for the whole
country is misleading.

Ken

Copley, Teesdale

Hi, Bruce and all,
I'll post to this thread as the Haytor one has been lost to the bickerers.

LONG TERM AVERAGES, Seathwaite for the months in question
Dec 393.2mm
Jan 408.2mm
Feb 320.0mm
Season average 1121.4mm
Annual average 3098.8mm
Annual average on Seathwaite Fell gauges 4699.0mm

1000mm for winter is below average there!


Just read my rainfall for 24 hours up to 1800 GMT today at 49.9mm (5 inch
copper MKII gauge).

Haytor February total now 247.5
January was 368.3
December 407.7 mm

This brings the winter total up to 1023.5 mm or 1.0235 metres.

Not that far off the seassonal average for Seathwaite (1121.4 mm). I've
often wondered what it might be like to live there in winter, I have now had
a taster :-)

Will
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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