You've gone very quiet Freddie. Still waiting for
some evidence that what you've said happened is
what actually happened.

I wasn't quiet - I have a life beyond this newsgroup.
I have answered your queries in another post.

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Freddie
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On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:01:14 PM UTC, Freddie wrote:


You've gone very quiet Freddie. Still waiting for

some evidence that what you've said happened is

what actually happened.



I wasn't quiet - I have a life beyond this newsgroup.

I have answered your queries in another post.



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Freddie

Castle Pulverbatch

Shropshire

221m AMSL

http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/

http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports

Yes. Amazingly enough, so do I.

On Friday, March 21, 2014 9:59:45 PM UTC, Freddie wrote:
snip



I did look back over the charts - but only to double-check before I made my



assertions, as I follow them in real time too.





You have not looked carefully enough and I look at them on every run that I can.

Aahh - we are talking about *analysed* charts - not model runs.

Nope, you've lost me.


the high extended over us from the Azores settled over s, then to our east, then retrogressed, Freddie.

Seriously, if you look at the archive of charts at the link

provided below then you will see that the high didn't regress.

A new one formed in mid atlantic.

I'm open to learning here

Good.

But, on the other hand, you appear not to be.

It would help if you would look back more

carefully at the charts for that period and

provide some learning, if you can, instead of

making simple assertions.

As an exercise for the avid student, please look at the excellent

archive of analysed charts (ASXX archive) at:

http://www.woksat.info/wwp7.html

Freddie

Castle Pulverbatch

Shropshire

221m AMSL

http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/

http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:11:06 AM UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Friday, March 21, 2014 9:59:45 PM UTC, Freddie wrote:

snip







I did look back over the charts - but only to double-check before I made my







assertions, as I follow them in real time too.











You have not looked carefully enough and I look at them on every run that I can.



Aahh - we are talking about *analysed* charts - not model runs.



Nope, you've lost me.





the high extended over us from the Azores settled over s, then to our east, then retrogressed, Freddie.



Seriously, if you look at the archive of charts at the link



provided below then you will see that the high didn't regress.



A new one formed in mid atlantic.



I'm open to learning here



Good.



But, on the other hand, you appear not to be.



It would help if you would look back more



carefully at the charts for that period and



provide some learning, if you can, instead of



making simple assertions.



As an exercise for the avid student, please look at the excellent



archive of analysed charts (ASXX archive) at:



http://www.woksat.info/wwp7.html



Freddie



Castle Pulverbatch



Shropshire



221m AMSL



http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/



http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports

Ignore that Freddie. I hit "post" too early, sorry. That's a horrible archive to negotiate. No dates on the thumbnails! Will get back to you later.

On Friday, March 21, 2014 9:59:45 PM UTC, Freddie wrote:

snip

As an exercise for the avid student, please look at the excellent

archive of analysed charts (ASXX archive) at:

http://www.woksat.info/wwp7.html

Freddie

Thank you. The archive clearly shows the high centred to our east on the 11th of the month, as it's furthest extent, then pulling back SW (i.e. retrogressing) to lie some distance to our SW by the end of the 16th. I was a day early with my forecast, perhaps, but retrogression, from a high which extended to our east, certainly did happen.

Do look at those charts carefully and please say if you don't see what I do between those dates.

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
Ignore that Freddie. I hit "post" too early, sorry. That's a horrible
archive to negotiate. No dates on the thumbnails! Will get back to you
later.

Rubbish. There's a date/time and size underneath the thumbnails and Bernard
even provides arrows for rapid time negotiation after expanding a thumbnail.
It's a superb resource and you could learn a lot from it.

Will
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On Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:36:03 AM UTC, wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

Ignore that Freddie. I hit "post" too early, sorry. That's a horrible

archive to negotiate. No dates on the thumbnails! Will get back to you

later.



Rubbish. There's a date/time and size underneath the thumbnails and Bernard

even provides arrows for rapid time negotiation after expanding a thumbnail.

It's a superb resource and you could learn a lot from it.



Will

--

Oh hello.Glad you are following the discussion Will.

Yes. I figured it. I was trying to flick between thumbnails without reading the title and the arrows only move you between the 4 runs on an individual day! Apologies and the resources on Bernard's site are always excellent. See what Freddie's response is - or you could decide to return yourself and comment. I'm sure we'd all be grateful.

On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:34:24 -0700 (PDT), Dawlish
wrote:
th of the month, as it's furthest extent, then pulling back SW
(i.e. retrog=
ressing) to lie some distance to our SW by the end of the 16th.

But it didn't. The original high decayed and lost identity, and a new
high formed to the south west. If you look at upper air charts for
the same period, then you can clearly see the upper features (that
drive the development and decay of the surface high) behaving in a
way that is conducive to (a) the in-situ high decaying from the
north, its centre drifting S or SSE and eventually losing its
identity; and (b) promoting development of a new high in mid
atlantic. Never forget that the atmosphere is multidimensional and
that the surface charts are only a reflection of what is happening
aloft.

--
Freddie
Castle Pulverbatch
Shropshire
221m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:11:26 AM UTC, Freddie wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:34:24 -0700 (PDT), Dawlish

wrote:

th of the month, as it's furthest extent, then pulling back SW

(i.e. retrog=

ressing) to lie some distance to our SW by the end of the 16th.



But it didn't.

Please look at the charts Freddie. Two questions:


1. On the 11th was the high was centred to our east? You have maintained that this never happened but it clearly was. Surely you can see that?

2. Between the 12th and the 16th, did the high pull back to sit to our SW? Again, you've maintained that this never happened, but the charts clearly show that it did.

The original high decayed and lost identity, and a new

high formed to the south west. If you look at upper air charts for

the same period,

A link would be good. I'd like to see them.

snip (Again, assertions


Freddie

On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 02:24:57 -0700 (PDT), Dawlish
wrote:
1. On the 11th was the high was centred to our east? You have
maintained that this never happened but it clearly was. Surely you
can see that?
I have never said that this wasn't the case.

2. Between the 12th and the 16th, did the high pull back to sit to
our SW? Again, you've maintained that this never happened, but the
charts clearly show that it did.
I'm sorry but I don't see that in the charts. Additionally the upper
level dynamics (i.e. the existence of a progressive pattern) do not
support regression of surface features.

high formed to the south west. If you look at upper air charts
for
the same period,
A link would be good. I'd like to see them.
Can anyone supply Paul a link, please?

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Freddie
Castle Pulverbatch
Shropshire
221m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports