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On Monday, 23 June 2014 23:39:25 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
The 25th 26th 27th and 28th June on the NAEFS gain definition (convergence?) and show a marked line of three Lows running across the Canadian-US border. This means that as this spell changes the volcnicity of the planet increases. http://weather.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html No sign of any storms. Ah well. Maybe there is a time lag? W T F ! Date Time (UTC) Lat Lon Mag 2014/06/23 22:03:28 52.03 5.1 Mb RAT ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISL 2014/06/23 21:31:07 52.53 5.8 M Rat Islands, Aleutian Isl 2014/06/23 21:30:47 52 5.9 Mb Rat Islands, Aleutian Isl 2014/06/23 21:11:41 51.97 6 Mb Rat Islands, Aleutian Isl 2014/06/23 21:08:53 -30.42 5.7 Mb KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION 2014/06/23 20:59:08 -31.01 5.1 Mb KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION 2014/06/23 20:53:10 51.8 8 M Rat Islands, Aleutian Isl 2014/06/23 20:35:40 37.5 5.4 M North Pacific Ocean 2014/06/23 20:06:19 -29.96 6.2 Mb Kermadec Islands, New Zea 2014/06/23 19:28:46 27.16 6.7 Mb North Pacific Ocean 2014/06/23 19:21:48 -30.03 6.3 Mb Kermadec Islands, New Zea 2014/06/23 19:19:16 -30.12 6.9 M Kermadec Islands, New Zea 2014/06/23 19:13:18 8.72 4.6 M Panama-Costa Rica Border 2014/06/23 16:25:22 -5.34 4.8 Mb NEW IRELAND REGION, P.N.G 2014/06/23 15:38:38 -5.32 5 Mb NEW IRELAND REGION, P.N.G 2014/06/23 15:30:04 40.9 4.3 Mb EASTERN UZBEKISTAN 2014/06/23 15:21:25 31.18 4.6 Mb NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RID 2014/06/23 15:13:06 -3.2 5.1 Mb PAPUA, INDONESIA 2014/06/23 14:30:41 31.17 4.5 Mb NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RID 2014/06/23 14:30:12 29.42 4.7 Mb NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RID I will have to rethink all this stuff. I had forgotten the same thing happens after the cells that cause tornadoes leave the North American continent. Not it appears there is the obvious link with volcanics... http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/volc...pi-Ubinas.html Wow! How could I have missed that? A landslide at Aglung VDC in Gulmi district of Nepal has claimed lives of nine members of a single family, Gorkhapatra Online reported. Heavy rainfall on Thursday afternoon caused landslides at different places of Aglung VDC. Disaster area is 42-kilomters away Tamghas, the district headquarter of Gulmi. |
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On Monday, 23 June 2014 23:39:25 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
The 25th 26th 27th and 28th June on the NAEFS gain definition (convergence?) and show a marked line of three Lows running across the Canadian-US border. This means that as this spell changes the volcnicity of the planet increases. http://weather.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html No sign of any storms. Ah well. Maybe there is a time lag? W T F ! Date Time (UTC) Lat Lon Mag 2014/06/23 22:03:28 52.03 5.1 Mb RAT ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISL 2014/06/23 21:31:07 52.53 5.8 M Rat Islands, Aleutian Isl 2014/06/23 21:30:47 52 5.9 Mb Rat Islands, Aleutian Isl 2014/06/23 21:11:41 51.97 6 Mb Rat Islands, Aleutian Isl 2014/06/23 21:08:53 -30.42 5.7 Mb KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION 2014/06/23 20:59:08 -31.01 5.1 Mb KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION 2014/06/23 20:53:10 51.8 8 M Rat Islands, Aleutian Isl 2014/06/23 20:35:40 37.5 5.4 M North Pacific Ocean 2014/06/23 20:06:19 -29.96 6.2 Mb Kermadec Islands, New Zea 2014/06/23 19:28:46 27.16 6.7 Mb North Pacific Ocean 2014/06/23 19:21:48 -30.03 6.3 Mb Kermadec Islands, New Zea 2014/06/23 19:19:16 -30.12 6.9 M Kermadec Islands, New Zea 2014/06/23 19:13:18 8.72 4.6 M Panama-Costa Rica Border 2014/06/23 16:25:22 -5.34 4.8 Mb NEW IRELAND REGION, P.N.G 2014/06/23 15:38:38 -5.32 5 Mb NEW IRELAND REGION, P.N.G 2014/06/23 15:30:04 40.9 4.3 Mb EASTERN UZBEKISTAN 2014/06/23 15:21:25 31.18 4.6 Mb NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RID 2014/06/23 15:13:06 -3.2 5.1 Mb PAPUA, INDONESIA 2014/06/23 14:30:41 31.17 4.5 Mb NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RID 2014/06/23 14:30:12 29.42 4.7 Mb NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RID I will have to rethink all this stuff. I had forgotten the same thing happens after the cells that cause tornadoes leave the North American continent. Not it appears there is the obvious link with volcanics... http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/volc...pi-Ubinas.html Wow! How could I have missed that? 2014/06/23 at 20:53 51.8 N. 178.8 E. 7.9 M. Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands. That should be enough to change the weather. |
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On Tuesday, 24 June 2014 08:52:49 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Monday, 23 June 2014 23:39:25 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote: The 25th 26th 27th and 28th June on the NAEFS gain definition (convergence?) and show a marked line of three Lows running across the Canadian-US border. This means that as this spell changes the volcanicity of the planet increases. http://weather.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html No sign of any storms. Ah well. Maybe there is a time lag? W T F ! 2014/06/23 20:53:10 8 M. Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands I will have to rethink all this stuff. Not it appears there is the obvious link with volcanics... http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/volc...i-Ubinas..html 2014/06/23 at 20:53 51.8 N. 178.8 E. 7.9 M. Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands. That should be enough to change the weather. I only catch up on these charts every few days or so, so I only just saw this: http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/Loops/ The Low in the Pacific retrogrades north west in a pattern I think is called a Rex Block: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_...%29#Rex_blocks Noon on the 21st June 2014 there is a large Low system in the Gulf of Alaska. 6 hours later there is an High ousting it from above. Sea level pressure differences in the Pacific are virtually identical to Atlantic ones so it is surprising that such a large magnitude took place (despite the fact we haven't had a large quake in months.) The probable key to these situations is volcanic eruptions. I will have to stop thinking about them as incendiary phases of geo-physics and start treating volcanoes generally as isolated phenomena similar to tropical storms. They certainly appear on the BoM charts as natural phenomena with similar signals to tropical storms. But then I always supposed the tornadoes of North America are iterations of Atlantic tropicals. And seeing how well they interlace with volcanic events... It is all very confusing. |
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On Thursday, 26 June 2014 01:25:27 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
The 25th 26th 27th and 28th June on the NAEFS gain definition (convergence?) and show a marked line of three Lows running across the Canadian-US border. This means that as this spell changes the volcanicity of the planet increases. http://weather.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html No sign of any storms. Ah well. Maybe there is a time lag? W T F ! 2014/06/23 20:53 8 M. Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands I will have to rethink all this stuff. Not it appears there is the obvious link with volcanics... http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/volc...pi-Ubinas.html That should be enough to change the weather. I only catch up on these charts every few days or so, so I only just saw this: http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/Loops/ The Low in the Pacific retrogrades north west in a pattern I think is called a Rex Block: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_...%29#Rex_blocks Noon on the 21st June 2014 there is a large Low system in the Gulf of Alaska. 6 hours later there is an High ousting it from above. Sea level pressure differences in the Pacific are virtually identical to Atlantic ones so it is surprising that such a large magnitude took place (despite the fact we haven't had a large quake in months.) The probable key to these situations is volcanic eruptions. I will have to stop thinking about them as incendiary phases of geo-physics and start treating volcanoes generally as isolated phenomena similar to tropical storms.. They certainly appear on the BoM charts as natural phenomena with similar signals to tropical storms. But then I always supposed the tornadoes of North America are iterations of Atlantic tropicals. And seeing how well they interlace with volcanic events... The idea that the North Atlantic Oscillation is stochastic (aimless) almost implies the cause is lunar (the lunar phases being another apparently stochastic system.) Whatever the case I deplore the idea that the terms used in the Wikipedia item on the NAO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_oscillation) should be Negative and Positive phases. It is begging the sheeple that infest Meteorology not to think outside their frames and dares them to set a foot outside the fences of hallowed beliefism. Worse, it lines the nests of statisticians. The last thing that any science needs are bean counters; too bad climatology is infested with them and that they have taken over Meteorology for political purposes. For a while, up to the generation of that large earthquake on the 23rd June 2014, a not very high High Pressure system had dominated the eastern portion of North America. One focus of the system was sitting over the Great Lakes from before the 28 chart 7 day loop showing at http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/Loops/ North Atlantic surface analysis. The loop showing at the time of writing starts on the 19th the day this spell started. Click through it with your eye on that Great Lakes system and you will see the anticyclone leaves the continental shelf of both North America and Western Europe at about the same time. Britain is temporarily housed in a col of some 1016 millibars. The so called positive phase re-establishing a motley collection of similarly pressurised systems once more shortly after. What has happened or failed to happen is cyclogenesis. Instead it went underground to snap at us, trying to get our attention. Deaf ears were everywhere not listening intently. 18:00 on the 22nd June 2014 the anticyclones over both the great Lakes and Great Britain begin to wash down the plug-hole. They end up in the middle of the ocean shortly after the quake. Very soon thereafter, the Highs are restored. And in both cases pressure differentials are minimal at best, so it is obviously no great flow of gravity that has caused the change. And no great impetus implied by the motion of air. I had thought the quake would signal a change in the weather. North America and India have been hard hit by drought over the last few years. There will be killer floods to compensate. And perhaps the droughts will shift to different continents. |
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On Thursday, 26 June 2014 12:26:49 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
I had thought the quake would signal a change in the weather. North America and India have been hard hit by drought over the last few years. There will be killer floods to compensate. And perhaps the droughts will shift to different continents. Looks like it might have started. Pity the next phase is for anticyclonic weather.... ermmm... here... |
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On Thursday, 26 June 2014 20:29:17 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Looks like it might have started. The next phase is for anticyclonic weather.... in Britain. That could be good news for California. Or not as the case may be. Not. I was looking at the wrong line when I first opened the NASA page and it stuck in my head: Jun 27 08:09 Jul 5 11:59 Jul 12 11:25 Jul 19 02:08 Jul 26 22:42 http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phases2001.html 26 July is the Anticyclonic stuff as is the 12 July but the 27th June is tornadic all the way down. It will run through the 5th July might even carry on through the 12th and the 19th July is a tornado spell again. One blaze of hope is that the 5th will be a volcanically active spell as will the one following it but you know that means tornadoes if I am wrong. Ah well I haven't hit many of these nails on the head, so there is always the likelihood I am wrong again. |
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