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Lat N 56° 06' 05"
Long W 4° 50' 15"
National Grid NS236935
82m ASL

The Snowdon Horseshoe from the north-east, taken
mid-morning of the 17th:-
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4/P1020267.jpg

(%)= percentage of twelve year mean.
(+ or -)= difference from twelve year mean.
(...)= since August 2002

TEMPERATURE (°C)
Mean Max: 22.1 (+1.5)
Mean: 17.0 (+0.9)
Mean Min: 11.9 (+0.3)

Highest Max: 31.7 (+3.8), (25th), the highest temperature...
Highest Min: 15.7 (+0.3), (19th)
Lowest Max: 15.0 (0.0), (4th)
Lowest Min: 6.8 (-0.5), (5th)

No. of Days max =0: 0
No. of Days min =0: 0

Warmest Day Mean: 22.9 (+2.2) (31.7/14.1, 25th)
Coolest Day Mean: 11.4 (-1.0) (15.0/7.9, 4th)

PRECIPITATION (mm)
Total: 137.0, (108%)
Wettest Day: 31.4 (+6.2) (12th)

Days 20mm: 3 (+2)
Days 2mm: 11 (-2)
Days 0.2mm: 19 (-2)
Days 0.2mm: 12 (+2), (6th, 9th-11th, 15th, 17th, 18th, 21st-25th)

Year to 31.07: 1274.6, (129%), the most for any year...

BAROMETRIC PRESSURE (mb)
Max: 1024.2, (-1.4, 22nd)
Mean: 1008.7 (-0.6)
Min: 993.2 (+0.1, 4th)

WIND (mph)
Avge Wind: 2.3 (-0.5)
Max Gust: 31 (0), (19:00, 18th)
Windiest day avge: 5.8 (-0.8), (4th)
Calmest day avge: 0.6 (0), (22nd)

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Alan White wrote:
Lat N 56° 06' 05"
Long W 4° 50' 15"
National Grid NS236935
82m ASL

The Snowdon Horseshoe from the north-east, taken
mid-morning of the 17th:-
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4/P1020267.jpg

(%)= percentage of twelve year mean.
(+ or -)= difference from twelve year mean.
(...)= since August 2002

TEMPERATURE (°C)
Mean Max: 22.1 (+1.5)


That must be one hell of a micro-climate you've got going up there
if your mean July max is 20.6°C and mine is only around 19°C!
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Col wrote:

Alan White wrote:
Lat N 560 06' 05"
Long W 40 50' 15"
National Grid NS236935
82m ASL

The Snowdon Horseshoe from the north-east, taken
mid-morning of the 17th:-
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4/P1020267.jpg

(%)= percentage of twelve year mean.
(+ or -)= difference from twelve year mean.
(...)= since August 2002

TEMPERATURE (0C)
Mean Max: 22.1 (+1.5)


That must be one hell of a micro-climate you've got going up there
if your mean July max is 20.60C and mine is only around 190C!


I haven't done the final July figures for here yet, Col, but the mean daily max
is going to be around 22 deg. Your 19 deg looks to be very low.

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Norman wrote:

Col wrote:

Alan White wrote:
Lat N 560 06' 05"
Long W 40 50' 15"
National Grid NS236935
82m ASL

The Snowdon Horseshoe from the north-east, taken
mid-morning of the 17th:-
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4/P1020267.jpg

(%)= percentage of twelve year mean.
(+ or -)= difference from twelve year mean.
(...)= since August 2002

TEMPERATURE (0C)
Mean Max: 22.1 (+1.5)


That must be one hell of a micro-climate you've got going up there
if your mean July max is 20.60C and mine is only around 190C!


I haven't done the final July figures for here yet, Col, but the mean daily
max is going to be around 22 deg. Your 19 deg looks to be very low.


Sorry, Col. I misread your post. I thought you were referring to the figures
for July this year, not the July averages. Please disregard!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Norman wrote:
Col wrote:

Alan White wrote:
Lat N 560 06' 05"
Long W 40 50' 15"
National Grid NS236935
82m ASL

The Snowdon Horseshoe from the north-east, taken
mid-morning of the 17th:-
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4/P1020267.jpg

(%)= percentage of twelve year mean.
(+ or -)= difference from twelve year mean.
(...)= since August 2002

TEMPERATURE (0C)
Mean Max: 22.1 (+1.5)


That must be one hell of a micro-climate you've got going up there
if your mean July max is 20.60C and mine is only around 190C!


I haven't done the final July figures for here yet, Col, but the mean
daily max is going to be around 22 deg. Your 19 deg looks to be very
low.


19°C is what I would expect as the average for around here, I do not
have enough data to give a meaningful figure for my location.

The average max for July this year was 21.5°C.
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 13:11:01 +0100, "Col"
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That must be one hell of a micro-climate you've got going up there
if your mean July max is 20.6°C and mine is only around 19°C!


Er, yes.

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Alan White wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 13:11:01 +0100, "Col"
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That must be one hell of a micro-climate you've got going up there
if your mean July max is 20.6°C and mine is only around 19°C!


Er, yes.


Well care to explain??
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 14:02:54 +0100, "Col"
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Well care to explain??


I think the best I can do is to refer you to my post of the 25th of July
which was queried by Will but I only retain posts for 48 hours so I
don't have his reply to hand. A search of the archives should find it.

I've done a bit of digging but can find nothing authoritative which
gives a confirming or better explanation but I can only report what I
record.

Our nearest official reporting stations are Glasgow Airport and Glasgow
Bishopton both of which have a much more open aspect than do we. In
sunny weather in the summer our recorded temperatures are consistently
higher than both. Having said that, they are currently 20°C and 19°C
respectively and we are 19.8°

For what it's worth, here are our recorded mean max temperatures for the
last twelve Julys:-

2003 20.9
2004 18.8
2005 20.0
2006 23.6
2007 19.5
2008 20.2
2009 20.8
2010 18.6
2011 21.4
2012 18.3
2013 22.9
2014 22.1

It would be interesting to see yours.

Next time we have an extreme, I'll post both the Glasgow's and ours.

HTH but it would be nice to have some 'official' confirmation.

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I think the best I can do is to refer you to my post of the 25th of July
which was queried by Will but I only retain posts for 48 hours so I
don't have his reply to hand. A search of the archives should find it.


Here is Will's resonse to that post

I thought the idea of a walled garden was to give shelter from wind and also
allow growing space for climbers etc like peaches. It will also give some
added warmth in the evenings due to conduction from the walls. But hot air
rises so I'm not sure the idea of warm air becoming "trapped" is correct?
More likely is that the surrounding land is re-radiating and is more of a
"bowl" effect where there is less mixing and a lot of heat going in? I have
certainly been in western Scotland when the heat has been amazing looking
out over an azure blue sea - just like the Med, which I too have never
visited :-)

Graham
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:17:13 -0700 (PDT), Graham Easterling
wrote:


I think the best I can do is to refer you to my post of the 25th of July
which was queried by Will but I only retain posts for 48 hours so I
don't have his reply to hand. A search of the archives should find it.


Here is Will's resonse to that post

I thought the idea of a walled garden was to give shelter from wind and also
allow growing space for climbers etc like peaches. It will also give some
added warmth in the evenings due to conduction from the walls. But hot air
rises so I'm not sure the idea of warm air becoming "trapped" is correct?
More likely is that the surrounding land is re-radiating and is more of a
"bowl" effect where there is less mixing and a lot of heat going in? I have
certainly been in western Scotland when the heat has been amazing looking
out over an azure blue sea - just like the Med, which I too have never
visited :-)

Graham


Thanks, Graham.

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