There now appears to be a large and heavy area of rain moving north just
off the South Coast. Not mentioned on earlier forecasts but looks like
someone's in for a soaking.

In message , Dave Cornwell
writes
There now appears to be a large and heavy area of rain moving north
just off the South Coast. Not mentioned on earlier forecasts but looks
like someone's in for a soaking.

Rain has reached Cranleigh within the last half hour or so, but so far
it's only been a damping.
--
John Hall Weep not for little Leonie
Abducted by a French Marquis!
Though loss of honour was a wrench
Just think how it's improved her French. Harry Graham (1874-1936)

On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:07:28 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

In message , Dave Cornwell
writes
There now appears to be a large and heavy area of rain moving north
just off the South Coast. Not mentioned on earlier forecasts but looks
like someone's in for a soaking.

Rain has reached Cranleigh within the last half hour or so, but so far
it's only been a damping.

Started in Fareham just befoe 6pm, heavy enough at times to make you
run from car park to shop, 7 mm so far and due to get heavier again
soon, we'll probably end up with half an inch or so.

This significant rain band was not in last night's forecast at all.
The problem being that the main BBC TV national and local forecasts
after the 10pm news stopped at 4pm Friday and completely ignored this
evening and tonight (leaving us to assume that it would be fine and
dry like the rest of the day). They skipped to Saturday daytime and
Sunday, so even if they'd expected this evening's drenching, you'd
never have known it from the forecast.

Little wonder the BBC/Met Office forecasters regularly come in for
stick when they get such basics wrong.

--
Dave
Fareham (W)

In message , Dave Ludlow
writes
This significant rain band was not in last night's forecast at all. The
problem being that the main BBC TV national and local forecasts after
the 10pm news stopped at 4pm Friday and completely ignored this evening
and tonight (leaving us to assume that it would be fine and dry like
the rest of the day). They skipped to Saturday daytime and Sunday, so
even if they'd expected this evening's drenching, you'd never have
known it from the forecast.

Little wonder the BBC/Met Office forecasters regularly come in for
stick when they get such basics wrong.

I suspect it's the fault of the limited time that they were allocated.
With Bertha looming, I can understand their thinking that it was more
important to cover the weekend, for which people would probably want to
be able to decide in advance whether outdoor events should proceed or be
called off.
--
John Hall Weep not for little Leonie
Abducted by a French Marquis!
Though loss of honour was a wrench
Just think how it's improved her French. Harry Graham (1874-1936)

Dave Ludlow wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:07:28 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

In message , Dave Cornwell
writes
There now appears to be a large and heavy area of rain moving north
just off the South Coast. Not mentioned on earlier forecasts but looks
like someone's in for a soaking.
Rain has reached Cranleigh within the last half hour or so, but so far
it's only been a damping.

Started in Fareham just befoe 6pm, heavy enough at times to make you
run from car park to shop, 7 mm so far and due to get heavier again
soon, we'll probably end up with half an inch or so.

This significant rain band was not in last night's forecast at all.
The problem being that the main BBC TV national and local forecasts
after the 10pm news stopped at 4pm Friday and completely ignored this
evening and tonight (leaving us to assume that it would be fine and
dry like the rest of the day). They skipped to Saturday daytime and
Sunday, so even if they'd expected this evening's drenching, you'd
never have known it from the forecast.

Little wonder the BBC/Met Office forecasters regularly come in for
stick when they get such basics wrong.

--------------------------------------------
Almost up to an inch of rain here so far today. Not covered themselves
in glory since last night I must say. Supposed to have been heavy rain
7am -till midday, we had one heavy shower in that period. Then more
showers this afternoon which they did change the forecast to today, then
missed tonight's heavy continuous rain. Let's hope they do better with
Bertha!

On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 21:56:21 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

In message , Dave Ludlow
writes
This significant rain band was not in last night's forecast at all. The
problem being that the main BBC TV national and local forecasts after
the 10pm news stopped at 4pm Friday and completely ignored this evening
and tonight (leaving us to assume that it would be fine and dry like
the rest of the day). They skipped to Saturday daytime and Sunday, so
even if they'd expected this evening's drenching, you'd never have
known it from the forecast.

Little wonder the BBC/Met Office forecasters regularly come in for
stick when they get such basics wrong.

I suspect it's the fault of the limited time that they were allocated.
With Bertha looming, I can understand their thinking that it was more
important to cover the weekend, for which people would probably want to
be able to decide in advance whether outdoor events should proceed or be
called off.

Well I don't think the three local girls who went for a long bike ride
this afternoon wearing obviously 'dry' clothing would have been too
impressed with that as an excuse, when they returned about 7 pm soaked
to the skin. On Thursday evening, people needed to plan Friday's
activities!

We ended up with 10 mm after a 5 and a half hour period of mainly
moderate rain that was either unpredicted or ignored, only 20 hours
before the event. Bertha or no (and we still don't know what's going
to happen there), that was decidedly unimpressive.

--
Dave
Fareham

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
...
Dave Ludlow wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:07:28 +0100, John Hall
wrote:

In message , Dave Cornwell
writes
There now appears to be a large and heavy area of rain moving north
just off the South Coast. Not mentioned on earlier forecasts but looks
like someone's in for a soaking.
Rain has reached Cranleigh within the last half hour or so, but so far
it's only been a damping.

Started in Fareham just befoe 6pm, heavy enough at times to make you
run from car park to shop, 7 mm so far and due to get heavier again
soon, we'll probably end up with half an inch or so.

This significant rain band was not in last night's forecast at all.
The problem being that the main BBC TV national and local forecasts
after the 10pm news stopped at 4pm Friday and completely ignored this
evening and tonight (leaving us to assume that it would be fine and
dry like the rest of the day). They skipped to Saturday daytime and
Sunday, so even if they'd expected this evening's drenching, you'd
never have known it from the forecast. Little wonder the BBC/Met Office
forecasters regularly come in for
stick when they get such basics wrong.

--------------------------------------------
Almost up to an inch of rain here so far today. Not covered themselves in
glory since last night I must say. Supposed to have been heavy rain
7am -till midday, we had one heavy shower in that period. Then more
showers this afternoon which they did change the forecast to today, then
missed tonight's heavy continuous rain. Let's hope they do better with
Bertha!

The Met Office said all day yesterday that heavy rain would affect SE
England today
so whats wrong with that ! ?,timing 's always difficult.

RonB

On Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:09:03 UTC+1, ron button wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ... Dave Ludlow wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:07:28 +0100, John Hall wrote: In message , Dave Cornwell writes There now appears to be a large and heavy area of rain moving north just off the South Coast. Not mentioned on earlier forecasts but looks like someone's in for a soaking. Rain has reached Cranleigh within the last half hour or so, but so far it's only been a damping. Started in Fareham just befoe 6pm, heavy enough at times to make you run from car park to shop, 7 mm so far and due to get heavier again soon, we'll probably end up with half an inch or so. This significant rain band was not in last night's forecast at all. The problem being that the main BBC TV national and local forecasts after the 10pm news stopped at 4pm Friday and completely ignored this evening and tonight (leaving us to assume that it would be fine and dry like the rest of the day). They skipped to Saturday daytime and Sunday, so even if they'd expected this evening's drenching, you'd never have known it from the forecast. Little wonder the BBC/Met Office forecasters regularly come in for stick when they get such basics wrong. -------------------------------------------- Almost up to an inch of rain here so far today. Not covered themselves in glory since last night I must say. Supposed to have been heavy rain 7am -till midday, we had one heavy shower in that period. Then more showers this afternoon which they did change the forecast to today, then missed tonight's heavy continuous rain. Let's hope they do better with Bertha! The Met Office said all day yesterday that heavy rain would affect SE England today so whats wrong with that ! ?,timing 's always difficult. RonB

The heavy rain they forecast was for the morning and my total was nil.. Neither was there any rain here during the day. The current rain is a different batch so in no way does it mitigate their error. I can't remember from the 5.57 Radio4 forecast if rain was forecast for this evening, so chaotic, casual and skimpy was it. Nothing must be allowed to intrude on the frivolities of the Eddie Mair Show! I seem to remember something about TS Bertha. I think the Met Office have been obsessed by this and taken their eyes off the ball. Even allowing for the BBC-imposed difficulties under which they labour this was a pretty poor forecast. I am now getting the distinct impression that as far as the general public go the Met Office is not trying very hard. Better stop there or this rant will go supercell.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On 09/08/2014 01:02, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:09:03 UTC+1, ron button wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ... Dave Ludlow wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:07:28 +0100, John Hall wrote: In message , Dave Cornwell writes There now appears to be a large and heavy area of rain moving north just off the South Coast. Not mentioned on earlier forecasts but looks like someone's in for a soaking. Rain has reached Cranleigh within the last half hour or so, but so far it's only been a damping. Started in Fareham just befoe 6pm, heavy enough at times to make you run from car park to shop, 7 mm so far and due to get heavier again soon, we'll probably end up with half an inch or so. This significant rain band was not in last night's forecast at all. The problem being that the main BBC TV national and local forecasts after the 10pm news stopped at 4pm Frida
y and completely ignored this evening and tonight (leaving us to assume that it would be fine and dry like the rest of the day). They skipped to Saturday daytime and Sunday, so even if they'd expected this evening's drenching, you'd never have known it from the forecast. Little wonder the BBC/Met Office forecasters regularly come in for stick when they get such basics wrong. -------------------------------------------- Almost up to an inch of rain here so far today. Not covered themselves in glory since last night I must say. Supposed to have been heavy rain 7am -till midday, we had one heavy shower in that period. Then more showers this afternoon which they did change the forecast to today, then missed tonight's heavy continuous rain. Let's hope they do better with Bertha! The Met Office said all day yesterday that heavy rain would affect SE England today so whats wrong with that ! ?,timing 's always difficult. RonB

The heavy rain they forecast was for the morning and my total was nil. Neither was there any rain here during the day. The current rain is a different batch so in no way does it mitigate their error. I can't remember from the 5.57 Radio4 forecast if rain was forecast for this evening, so chaotic, casual and skimpy was it. Nothing must be allowed to intrude on the frivolities of the Eddie Mair Show! I seem to remember something about TS Bertha. I think the Met Office have been obsessed by this and taken their eyes off the ball. Even allowing for the BBC-imposed difficulties under which they labour this was a pretty poor forecast. I am now getting the distinct impression that as far as the general public go the Met Office is not trying very hard. Better stop there or this rant will go supercell.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


Well well, 21.6mm (0.85") of rain overnight, exactly the same as
Shoeburyness's 06z report.

--
Keith (Southend)
"Weather Home & Abroad"
http://www.southendweather.net
Twitter:@LawnscienceEssx

On Saturday, August 9, 2014 8:00:47 AM UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On 09/08/2014 01:02, Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Saturday, 9 August 2014 00:09:03 UTC+1, ron button wrote:

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ... Dave Ludlow wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:07:28 +0100, John Hall wrote: In message , Dave Cornwell writes There now appears to be a large and heavy area of rain moving north just off the South Coast. Not mentioned on earlier forecasts but looks like someone's in for a soaking. Rain has reached Cranleigh within the last half hour or so, but so far it's only been a damping. Started in Fareham just befoe 6pm, heavy enough at times to make you run from car park to shop, 7 mm so far and due to get heavier again soon, we'll probably end up with half an inch or so. This significant rain band was not in last night's forecast at all. The problem being that the main BBC TV national and local forecasts after the 10pm news stopped at 4pm Frida

y and completely ignored this evening and tonight (leaving us to assume that it would be fine and dry like the rest of the day). They skipped to Saturday daytime and Sunday, so even if they'd expected this evening's drenching, you'd never have known it from the forecast. Little wonder the BBC/Met Office forecasters regularly come in for stick when they get such basics wrong. -------------------------------------------- Almost up to an inch of rain here so far today. Not covered themselves in glory since last night I must say. Supposed to have been heavy rain 7am -till midday, we had one heavy shower in that period. Then more showers this afternoon which they did change the forecast to today, then missed tonight's heavy continuous rain. Let's hope they do better with Bertha! The Met Office said all day yesterday that heavy rain would affect SE England today so whats wrong with that ! ?,timing 's always difficult. RonB



The heavy rain they forecast was for the morning and my total was nil. Neither was there any rain here during the day. The current rain is a different batch so in no way does it mitigate their error. I can't remember from the 5.57 Radio4 forecast if rain was forecast for this evening, so chaotic, casual and skimpy was it. Nothing must be allowed to intrude on the frivolities of the Eddie Mair Show! I seem to remember something about TS Bertha. I think the Met Office have been obsessed by this and taken their eyes off the ball. Even allowing for the BBC-imposed difficulties under which they labour this was a pretty poor forecast. I am now getting the distinct impression that as far as the general public go the Met Office is not trying very hard. Better stop there or this rant will go supercell.



Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.





Well well, 21.6mm (0.85") of rain overnight, exactly the same as

Shoeburyness's 06z report.



--

Keith (Southend)

"Weather Home & Abroad"

http://www.southendweather.net

Twitter:@LawnscienceEssx

12.2mm (in my 5in gauge) in Wanstead - which was more than my nearest official site, St James Park, which recorded 9.8mm! Ron's site just up the road to me recorded 24.4mm from the episode.
Despite appearing to be frontal the rain was incredibly varied over short distances...
Heathrow is reporting 22.2mm, while Kenley just 13.4mm.