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After this weeks vote should the Scots decide in favour of independence, will our friends North of the border still be welcome to post on here without the OT prefix?

It's really a fact now that it seems that the majority of posts are technically off topic. It's about time the AGW brigade set up their own newsgroup, as most of what's posted is hardly UK related IMHO.

I vote Scots in AGW out.

DM. Yorkshire Wolds.

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On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:42:59 UTC+1, David Mitchell wrote:

After this weeks vote should the Scots decide in favour of independence, will our friends North of the border still be welcome to post on here without the OT prefix?

It's really a fact now that it seems that the majority of posts are technically off topic. It's about time the AGW brigade set up their own newsgroup, as most of what's posted is hardly UK related IMHO.

I vote Scots in AGW out.

DM. Yorkshire Wolds.


Just exactly are you alienating here?

Our friends who are not true members of this newsgroup or some fictional characters that no longer think of Yorkshire as over the border?

How far is Yorkshire from over the border anyway?
And what exactly is or are Scots in AGW out?


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On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:42:59 UTC+1, David Mitchell wrote:
After this weeks vote should the Scots decide in favour of independence, will our friends North of the border still be welcome to post on here without the OT prefix? It's really a fact now that it seems that the majority of posts are technically off topic. It's about time the AGW brigade set up their own newsgroup, as most of what's posted is hardly UK related IMHO. I vote Scots in AGW out. DM. Yorkshire Wolds.


I agree entirely with all your points. There is far too much on this site about AGW and it seems to be the motivating factor in too many contributors whether orthodox or sceptic and it leads to ill-tempered exchanges that rarely illuminate. Everyone has an agenda and this distorts any interpretation of current synoptic conditions and the weather they may produce. Apart from those worthies who post their observations there appear to be precious few members here who are all that interested in the weather as it actually happens. I get the feeling that such people regard UK weather as nothing more than a parochial affair among the Great Issues of Climate, which are, of course, much easier to waffle and bluster about than trying to work out why it's raining, or not raining, at this moment. This explains why if you mention you're interested in the weather to someone you don't know (or do know) they often immediately go on about GW, whether loony-sceptic or tiresomely-earnest True Believer, because GW is a subject about which you need to know bugger all to sound off, it being in many cases a religion, whereas the weather requires a commitment not only to observing it intelligently and maybe recording it but to understand it also.
As for the Scots, they are as welcome as they always have been. We have had contributors from many other countries in the past but fewer recently, probably discouraged by the flame wars.

If anybody here feels they are being got at they're probably right.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey
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"David Mitchell" wrote in message
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After this weeks vote should the Scots decide in favour of independence,
will our friends North of the border still be welcome to post on here
without the OT prefix?

It's really a fact now that it seems that the majority of posts are
technically off topic. It's about time the AGW brigade set up their own
newsgroup, as most of what's posted is hardly UK related IMHO.


Much more interested in weather, especially exciting weather. I would agree
that there tends to be too much about AGW and not enough about weather, mind
you, use of a kill file corrects that to a large extent!

Will
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Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Hi, David,
Can't see a yes vote happening. If it did it would affect weather reports such as Colin's review but the few posts we get from Scotland (and other areas north of Sheffield) would always be welcome for me.
There does seem to be a trend of "My weather is better than yours" which could put some off posting.
I've killfiled the few weirdos on here and only see them when posters reply and become involved in pointless threads.
Still a good group if you killfile the strange ones :-)
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On Monday, September 15, 2014 1:31:32 AM UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:42:59 UTC+1, David Mitchell wrote:



After this weeks vote should the Scots decide in favour of independence, will our friends North of the border still be welcome to post on here without the OT prefix?




It's really a fact now that it seems that the majority of posts are technically off topic. It's about time the AGW brigade set up their own newsgroup, as most of what's posted is hardly UK related IMHO.




I vote Scots in AGW out.




DM. Yorkshire Wolds.




Just exactly are you alienating here?



Our friends who are not true members of this newsgroup or some fictional characters that no longer think of Yorkshire as over the border?



How far is Yorkshire from over the border anyway?

And what exactly is or are Scots in AGW out?


It's quite simple really, a tongue in cheek response to this weeks referendum, but I would very much miss our contributions from North of the border, but not the incessant rambling and bickering about AGW, which doesn't really belong here. Not trying to alienate anyone.

I've no idea why you're bringing Yorkshire into the equation.

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On Monday, September 15, 2014 9:36:39 AM UTC+1, David Mitchell wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 1:31:32 AM UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:

On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:42:59 UTC+1, David Mitchell wrote:








After this weeks vote should the Scots decide in favour of independence, will our friends North of the border still be welcome to post on here without the OT prefix?








It's really a fact now that it seems that the majority of posts are technically off topic. It's about time the AGW brigade set up their own newsgroup, as most of what's posted is hardly UK related IMHO.








I vote Scots in AGW out.








DM. Yorkshire Wolds.








Just exactly are you alienating here?








Our friends who are not true members of this newsgroup or some fictional characters that no longer think of Yorkshire as over the border?








How far is Yorkshire from over the border anyway?




And what exactly is or are Scots in AGW out?




It's quite simple really, a tongue in cheek response to this weeks referendum, but I would very much miss our contributions from North of the border, but not the incessant rambling and bickering about AGW, which doesn't really belong here. Not trying to alienate anyone.



I've no idea why you're bringing Yorkshire into the equation.


Killfiling does seem the way to go, but ultimately it's a bit of a three monkeys response.
Anyone recommend a newsgroup reader?
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On 15/09/14 09:36, David Mitchell wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 1:31:32 AM UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:42:59 UTC+1, David Mitchell
wrote:



After this weeks vote should the Scots decide in favour of
independence, will our friends North of the border still be
welcome to post on here without the OT prefix?




It's really a fact now that it seems that the majority of posts
are technically off topic. It's about time the AGW brigade set up
their own newsgroup, as most of what's posted is hardly UK
related IMHO.




I vote Scots in AGW out.




DM. Yorkshire Wolds.




Just exactly are you alienating here?



Our friends who are not true members of this newsgroup or some
fictional characters that no longer think of Yorkshire as over the
border?



How far is Yorkshire from over the border anyway?

And what exactly is or are Scots in AGW out?


It's quite simple really, a tongue in cheek response to this weeks
referendum, but I would very much miss our contributions from North
of the border, but not the incessant rambling and bickering about
AGW, which doesn't really belong here. Not trying to alienate
anyone.

I've no idea why you're bringing Yorkshire into the equation.


If my nationality ever comes up in conversation, I usually say
(only-half-tongue-in-cheek), "First,Yorkshire-man; Second British". I
don't feel particularly "English" because I don't know what that means.
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"David Mitchell" wrote in message
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Killfiling does seem the way to go, but ultimately it's a bit of a three
monkeys response.
Anyone recommend a newsgroup reader?

David,
How long would you talk to these weirdos in the street / pub / sporting
venue before you walked away? Killfile them!
News.Individual.NET is the one I use.
I can still go on to google groups occasionally to see if they're still
there. The arguments there are the same after several months, even years! As
I say, I only read them if sensible posters are drawn into their strange
worlds and talk of sacred things like Yorkshire (;0)
Ken

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On 15/09/2014 10:16, Ken Cook wrote:
"David Mitchell" wrote in message
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Killfiling does seem the way to go, but ultimately it's a bit of a three
monkeys response.
Anyone recommend a newsgroup reader?

David,
How long would you talk to these weirdos in the street / pub / sporting
venue before you walked away? Killfile them!
News.Individual.NET is the one I use.
I can still go on to google groups occasionally to see if they're still
there. The arguments there are the same after several months, even
years! As I say, I only read them if sensible posters are drawn into
their strange worlds and talk of sacred things like Yorkshire (;0)
Ken


Paul Sykes multi millionaire comes from Yorkshire, he's also the major
finanical backer of UKIP. A Yorkshireman with good English common sense.


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