"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
news:20141203145931.7bc6f47d@linux-tn3p...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 14:10:14 -0000
"Eskimo Will" wrote:


"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:33:56 AM UTC,
wrote:

Gosh eraser and 4B pencil - those were the days, I went
through erasers incredibly quickly iirc :-)

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I seem to recall a frequent shortage of 4B pencils as well, because
Ray Nurney (?) used to hoard them.
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Ah yes Ray Nurney, he was a dour sort of chappie, nice though.
Purple crayons were always in short supply. My favourite was blue as
that was what you used to colour sleet/snow obs as. :-)
Haven't drawn up a chart for 20 years.
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"Purple crayons in short supply"? You young whippersnappers don't know
yer born; when I were a lad, we 'ad to buy air own purple pencils as
they weren't guvmint issue - either that or mix red and blue.


Mixing? Luxury, ....... :-)

Will
--
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On 03/12/2014 14:10, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:33:56 AM UTC,
wrote:

Gosh eraser and 4B pencil - those were the days, I went
through erasers incredibly quickly iirc :-)

==========

I seem to recall a frequent shortage of 4B pencils as well, because
Ray Nurney (?) used to hoard them.
===============

Ah yes Ray Nurney, he was a dour sort of chappie, nice though.
Purple crayons were always in short supply. My favourite was blue as
that was what you used to colour sleet/snow obs as. :-)
Haven't drawn up a chart for 20 years.
===============

Will
If you haven't drawn up (using gridding) charts at 10, 5,2 and 1mb you
haven't lived. I was in the Stratospheric section in Met O 20 when I
first went to Bracknell, and that was part of my job...

And when I started, you had one biro issued and had to hand that one in
when it ran out before getting a replacement. Hard to use a biro when
it's got a padlock and chain on it!

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:10:14 +0000
Metman2012 wrote:

On 03/12/2014 14:10, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:33:56 AM UTC,
wrote:

Gosh eraser and 4B pencil - those were the days, I went
through erasers incredibly quickly iirc :-)

==========

I seem to recall a frequent shortage of 4B pencils as well, because
Ray Nurney (?) used to hoard them.
===============

Ah yes Ray Nurney, he was a dour sort of chappie, nice though.
Purple crayons were always in short supply. My favourite was blue as
that was what you used to colour sleet/snow obs as. :-)
Haven't drawn up a chart for 20 years.
===============

Will
If you haven't drawn up (using gridding) charts at 10, 5,2 and 1mb
you haven't lived. I was in the Stratospheric section in Met O 20
when I first went to Bracknell, and that was part of my job...

And when I started, you had one biro issued and had to hand that one
in when it ran out before getting a replacement. Hard to use a biro
when it's got a padlock and chain on it!

Early one Monday morning, when I was getting ready to prepare the slides
for 0830 briefing, I found the coloured markers were missing; our
beloved leader had locked them away in his desk before the weekend (we
were a 5-day forecasting station). Luckily, the assistant was a
resourceful fellow and knew where the tools were and so we unscrewed
the table-top from the pedestals. We were therefore able to get the
markers and I could go ahead with preparing for the briefing. In the
other pedestal was a bottle of whiskey that had been presented to the
staff as a Christmas present by a grateful customer some time before.
We gave the problem a deal of thought but were unable to come up with a
way to extract the contents and replace them with some liquid of a
similar colour and reseal the bottle so that he wouldn't notice. Shame.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
[Retired meteorologist and computer programmer]
Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/

On Wednesday, 3 December 2014 11:33:56 UTC,
I used to do dashed isobars over the Alps. MSLP is meaningless for ground
above 1500 metres. Gosh eraser and 4B pencil - those were the days, I went
through erasers incredibly quickly iirc :-)

I remember watching in awe - as a 16 year old work experience student - watching a bench forecaster in Bracknell looking at the SE chart and casually drawing two or three isobars through the chart have looked at all the symbols. He then asked if I wanted to have a go at the next region and I bottled it for fear of making an enormous mess-up.

Richard

On Wednesday, 3 December 2014 15:32:00 UTC, wrote:

Mixing? Luxury, ....... :-)

There is a "four bench forecasters" sketch in the making here...

In message ,
Weatherlawyer writes
On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:17:35 UTC, wrote:
A remarkable looking chart for Eastern Greenland with some of the
tightest packed isobars over the North Atlantic area I have ever seen.
One wonders what sort of wind speeds could be generated? The wind
chill must be incredible with the wind from due north.

Looking at today's 12Z chart from GFS it /does/ look quite impressive in
that region.


You might find responders thin on the ground due to bigoted views about
Gmail and google trying to steal Usenet.

Or, more probably, he might not. I hadn't even noticed where he was
posting from until you drew attention to it, and in any case like to
think I pay more attention to a post's contents than where it came from.

Another problem you may have is being taken for another Dawlish sock
as he is somewhat mental or ignorant (probably both.)

Or again, he might not.
--
John Hall "Never play cards with a man called Doc.
Never eat at a place called Mom's.
Never sleep with a woman whose troubles
are worse than your own." Nelson Algren

In message , Metman2012
writes
And when I started, you had one biro issued and had to hand that one in
when it ran out before getting a replacement. Hard to use a biro when
it's got a padlock and chain on it!

You had biros? Cue someone to come in and say that you had it lucky, and
that when they started you still had to use a quill pen.
--
John Hall "Never play cards with a man called Doc.
Never eat at a place called Mom's.
Never sleep with a woman whose troubles
are worse than your own." Nelson Algren

On Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:30:43 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message , Metman2012
writes
And when I started, you had one biro issued and had to hand that one in
when it ran out before getting a replacement. Hard to use a biro when
it's got a padlock and chain on it!

You had biros? Cue someone to come in and say that you had it lucky, and
that when they started you still had to use a quill pen.

As the woodbine closes around the doors on Foggy Bottoms, one of usgets real before the flower people chime in.

The North Atlantic has almost identical weather to the North Pacific and both are showing multiple cyclonic centred systems at the moment. This would be the state if the cause of weather is an harmonic set up by the geography of both regions as they are whistles.

However the structures of said whistles vary enough to cause slightly different reactions to their acoustic waves. In the North Atlantic the set up under discussion in the OP is going to produce volcaninc activity in Iceland or one of the volcanic islands in the Norwegian Sea.

As happens with cyclosis (which is closely related to the whistle phenomena) the point at which laminar flow becomes turbulence can, when wind shear is absent, produce a sea change in the disposal of energy. In this case of course it is volcanism. If you look up the demo by Eric Laithwaite on lifting an heavy gyroscope you can see what must happen with the vortex induced in enclosed chambers when the pressure is relieved.

This phenomenon is accompanied on the North Atlantic charts with an unusual phenomena, the presence of a blocking High when there should be a huge harmonic cyclone accompanying the tropical storm Hagupit, a Category Three at the time of writing and soon to be a Cat 4. This is doubly unusual, the storm being both in the northern hemisphere in December and so powerful yet so close to the equator.

I couldn't cope with raw data the way that the experts here can, it has to be said though that they are a flock of dodos waiting to make flipper pie as far as modern treatments of data can be forced these days. Sadly I am the only one alone.

Still that just makes me peerless. I am far too self indulgent to feel any sadness or distraction.

"John Hall" wrote in message
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In message , Metman2012
writes
And when I started, you had one biro issued and had to hand that one in
when it ran out before getting a replacement. Hard to use a biro when it's
got a padlock and chain on it!

You had biros? Cue someone to come in and say that you had it lucky, and
that when they started you still had to use a quill pen.

A quill pen, luxury, when I was on the bench we used our fingernails ....
We also had four candles to read by :-)

Will
--
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:39:33 UTC, Weatherlawyer wrote:

As the woodbine closes around the doors on Foggy Bottoms, one of us gets real before the flower people chime in.

It just got real real. No room for climatologists here. There is forecast of contra-rotating cyclones in high latitudes of the North Pacific. Some real big volcano is about to blow.

Read me and weep!