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This diagram from NASA gives an intesting view of Global Warming.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOT...3&src=eoa-iotd

The warmest regions are in Eastern Siberia and Alaska. However, Eastern USA
and the sea around Antarctica are showing cooling. That allows some idiots
to claim that the warming is not global, but it is very significant none the
less.

Cheers, Alastair.



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On Saturday, 24 January 2015 14:15:43 UTC, Alastair wrote:

The warmest regions are in Eastern Siberia and Alaska. However, Eastern USA
and the sea around Antarctica are showing cooling. That allows some idiots
to claim that the warming is not global, but it is very significant none the
less.


One thing that I'd quite like to see is average temp from 2010-2014 minus the average temp from 1990-1994 just to see how things have changed over a generation. Reckon I could probably get the appropriate GRIB files and plot this out actually.

I was at dinner the other day with a few people who work in the same area as me (trying to quantify catastrophic risk) and we all agreed that whilst we're not global warming sceptics, we were all model sceptics!

Richard

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I was at dinner the other day with a few people who work in the same area
as me (trying to quantify catastrophic risk) and we all agreed that whilst
we're not global warming sceptics, we were all model sceptics!


That is interesting. I reckon I know what causes abrupt climate change. It
is sea ice forming or melting in the GIN (Greenland, Iceland and
Norwegian)Seas. It does that suddenly because
of the ice albedo feedback. It is the formation of the ice which stops the
thermohaline circulation, not the other way round. But the models don't
show that, so I reckoned the models must be wrong. (In fact they don't
explain abrupt climate change in any case.) So I have been investigating the
models even before I joined this newsgroup, and this autumn I finally
discovered exactly where the major flaw is. Are you interested in hearing
my ideas? Most people who distrust the models are very unwilling to
believe that they are based on faulty science.

Cheers, Alastair.


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On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 2:15:43 PM UTC, Alastair wrote:
This diagram from NASA gives an intesting view of Global Warming.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOT...3&src=eoa-iotd

The warmest regions are in Eastern Siberia and Alaska. However, Eastern USA
and the sea around Antarctica are showing cooling. That allows some idiots
to claim that the warming is not global, but it is very significant none the
less.

Cheers, Alastair.


For those idiots, all areas of the globe have to warm over the same period of time and continuously. Which is patently stupid.

If one area shows cooling over time, for them, GW cannot be happening.
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"Richard Dixon" wrote:

One thing that I'd quite like to see is average temp from 2010-2014
minus the average temp from 1990-1994 just to see how things have
changed over a generation.


Something like this? -

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gi...12 00&pol=rob



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On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:06:57 PM UTC, Togless wrote:
"Richard Dixon" wrote:

One thing that I'd quite like to see is average temp from 2010-2014
minus the average temp from 1990-1994 just to see how things have
changed over a generation.


Something like this? -

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gi...12 00&pol=rob


TY. But hang on, temperatures have plateaued. 😨 Clear that GISS have fixed the graph. Again!! 😇


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