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Just found this very interesting account of the Buxton snow in June 1975:



That connection is no longer available and setting off for Buxton was always
a gamble. It had the distinction of being the highest county ground above
sea level and was also one of the wettest.

I once compiled a 10-year survey of matches at Buxton and it showed the
chances of play on any given day were exactly 50-50.

Once, while morosely watching the rain run down the slope from the tiny
pavilion, I remarked to an elderly neighbour that nothing would be seen that
day.

He reflectively moved the last inch of his Woodbine and said: “No and it’ll
be the same tomorrow.” He was right.

By the time I was working for this paper and covering Derbyshire for 32
years, I went everywhere by car and the drive to Buxton on June 2, 1975,
produced the strangest experience in all that time.

The first day was hot and humid and Derbyshire were short of fit bowlers. A
condition that season was a limit of 100 overs on the first innings of each
side but that was more than enough for Lancashire, who scored

477-5.

Frank Hayes scored 104 and the sight of Clive Lloyd coming down the steps at
175-2 did not cheer ailing bowlers, especially Philip Russell, who sent down
34 of the 100 overs.

In an innings that contained 11 sixes and 60 fours, Russell’s 3-119 was a
good effort, especially as Lloyd was not content with clearing the ropes but
frequently sent the ball out of the ground.

On the Sunday, Derbyshire beat Glamorgan at Buxton while Lancashire had to
trail off to Colchester to meet Essex in the John Player League.

I set off on the Monday without undue alarm but, once past Bonsall, the
fields had a generous covering of snow. Even then, I was not worried: it was
June and the snow would clear.

It did not. The Park was completely covered with a good inch of snow and,
with a unique occurrence, it was mandatory that Dickie Bird should be one of
the umpires.

He ran round in circles, repeating himself, while Clive Lloyd saw snow for
the first time in his life. His idea of fun with snowballs was to whip them
in like his returns from the covers. To be avoided.

By Tuesday, the weather was back to normal, except Derbyshire were caught on
a snow-affected pitch.

Peter Lee and Peter Lever merely had to run up and let go. The ball did the
rest and Derbyshire were out twice, for 42 and 87 to lose by an innings and
348 runs.


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On Saturday, 30 May 2015 19:16:11 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2015 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT)
Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Saturday, 30 May 2015 12:15:11 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On 30/05/2015 12:04, Dave Cornwell wrote:
On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote:
Jack Warner wrote:
On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote:
On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK,
yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s

OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there
will be quite an intense low, more like January than June.
And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s!

Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be
about to make another dramatic shift.


I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it
was snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets
for snow. However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I
thought I was dreaming. LOL.

I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did.

My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day
and said that there was sleet there.
I would have been at primary school right up near the highest
point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper
snow there, sadly I don't remember.

----------------------------------------------------------
I think that might have been the famous snow stops play in the
Essex match at Colchester.

1975 also was quite a good summer :-)


August 1975 was one of the warmest Augusts of the 20th century
and would have been remembered for a long time but for the following
summer which as we all know was even hotter, and much drier. There
was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a
couple of hours.


Depends where you were as to how dry 1975 was. In Suffolk, the dry
weather started after the June snow and continued through August 1976.
The last time I mowed my lawn in 1975 was in May. By autumn, it was
about 3" long and still looking greenish whereas all my neighbours'
lawns were brown.

At Christmas, there were still wide cracks in the lawn due to the
continuing drought. It reminded me of something my dad used to tell me
of a Boxing Day football match on the Dog and Duck ground in
Wellingborough where the grass around the pitch was dry enough to sit
on and there were cracks in the ground wide enough to slide his hand
in. I hadn't believed him because I was used to seeing that ground
under water - it was on the Nen flood plain - every winter.

Although areas further west had storms, the eastern half of East Anglia
mostly escaped them as the sea breeze set in after lunch and dispersed
the convective clouds before anything could develop further. This
regular sea breeze meant that the summer of 1975 was much better than
the following one as I only recall a couple of days where the sea
breeze set in and on one of those it only arrived at 1700 at
Felixstowe. !976 was a thoroughly unpleasant, oppressive summer,
particularly for anyone like myself who was working shifts.


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No sea breeze here to speak of and the nights were very warm also. I was at an age (32) where uncomfortably interesting weather could still be fun.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
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On Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:36:43 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey


At that time I was living in a flat in Golders Green, well 2 rooms & a shared kitchen to be precise. I was clearly an ethnic minority in Golders Green terms. I remember the storm well.

Graham
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I was seeing a mate in Addiscombe, part of Croydon. It went *very* gloomy in the early evening but there was no rain. In fact there was none south of the Thames.

Ethnic minority? Diddums. Try being Welsh, though you wouldn't believe it to hear me. :-)

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

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On 30/05/2015 12:04, Dave Cornwell wrote:
On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote:
Jack Warner wrote:
On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote:
On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK,
yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s

OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there will
be quite an intense low, more like January than June.
And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s!

Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be
about to make another dramatic shift.


I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it was
snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets for snow.
However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I thought I was
dreaming. LOL.


I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did.

My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day
and said that there was sleet there.
I would have been at primary school right up near the highest
point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper
snow there, sadly I don't remember.

----------------------------------------------------------
I think that might have been the famous snow stops play in the Essex
match at Colchester.


Also, no play at all in Buxton (Derby vs. Lancs).

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On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 5:36:59 PM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:36:43 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey


At that time I was living in a flat in Golders Green, well 2 rooms & a shared kitchen to be precise. I was clearly an ethnic minority in Golders Green terms. I remember the storm well.

Graham
Penzance


I was seeing a mate in Addiscombe, part of Croydon. It went *very* gloomy in the early evening but there was no rain. In fact there was none south of the Thames.

Ethnic minority? Diddums. Try being Welsh, though you wouldn't believe it to hear me. :-)

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


When all the neighbours look like this http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...n_1826929c.jpg being a Cornish surfy type does make you stand out!

Graham


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On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 8:14:56 PM UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 5:36:59 PM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:36:43 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey

At that time I was living in a flat in Golders Green, well 2 rooms & a shared kitchen to be precise. I was clearly an ethnic minority in Golders Green terms. I remember the storm well.

Graham
Penzance


I was seeing a mate in Addiscombe, part of Croydon. It went *very* gloomy in the early evening but there was no rain. In fact there was none south of the Thames.

Ethnic minority? Diddums. Try being Welsh, though you wouldn't believe it to hear me. :-)

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


When all the neighbours look like this http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...n_1826929c.jpg being a Cornish surfy type does make you stand out!

Graham


Picture of me from the same era ( on the left, I'm rather different now) http://www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp.html

Apparently it was immediately obvious I wasn't an orthodox Jew. I can't see it myself.

Graham
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On Sunday, 31 May 2015 20:24:11 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 8:14:56 PM UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 5:36:59 PM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:36:43 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey

At that time I was living in a flat in Golders Green, well 2 rooms & a shared kitchen to be precise. I was clearly an ethnic minority in Golders Green terms. I remember the storm well.

Graham
Penzance

I was seeing a mate in Addiscombe, part of Croydon. It went *very* gloomy in the early evening but there was no rain. In fact there was none south of the Thames.

Ethnic minority? Diddums. Try being Welsh, though you wouldn't believe it to hear me. :-)

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


When all the neighbours look like this http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...n_1826929c.jpg being a Cornish surfy type does make you stand out!

Graham


Picture of me from the same era ( on the left, I'm rather different now) http://www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp.html

Apparently it was immediately obvious I wasn't an orthodox Jew. I can't see it myself.

Graham


Me neither. Do we have any stock footage of orthodox Jewish surfers to validate our view?
But if you're Cornish you're an ethnic minority anyway, aren't you? Be proud.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.
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Tudor Hughes writes


Me neither. Do we have any stock footage of orthodox Jewish
surfers to validate our view?
But if you're Cornish you're an ethnic minority anyway, aren't
you? Be proud.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



I'm in an ethnic minority in my own country, currently new residents/tax
dodgers ( or 'comeovers' as they're known ) outnumber us Manx.
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