I just made a new photo to replace an old one made by dear mama.

Could some kind person tell me what type of cloud this is?
http://pictures.opcop.org.uk/new99.htm

The sky is full of this type just now and if I know what it is, I can
change the title on the page.
If there's somewhere I can look such things up to avoid bothering the ng
please do tell.

Thanks in anticipation of someone being nice


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A S
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http://pictures.opcop.org.uk

On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 9:17:11 AM UTC-4, Asha Santon wrote:
I just made a new photo to replace an old one made by dear mama.

Could some kind person tell me what type of cloud this is?
http://pictures.opcop.org.uk/new99.htm

The sky is full of this type just now and if I know what it is, I can
change the title on the page.
If there's somewhere I can look such things up to avoid bothering the ng
please do tell.

Thanks in anticipation of someone being nice

========

Altocumulus stratiformis translucidus perlucidus.

Or, given that it is difficult to gauge altitude from a photograph, possibly high stratocumulus.

Stephen.

Altocumulus perlucidus would do me!

"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 9:17:11 AM UTC-4, Asha Santon wrote:
I just made a new photo to replace an old one made by dear mama.

Could some kind person tell me what type of cloud this is?
http://pictures.opcop.org.uk/new99.htm

The sky is full of this type just now and if I know what it is, I can
change the title on the page.
If there's somewhere I can look such things up to avoid bothering the ng
please do tell.

Thanks in anticipation of someone being nice

========

Altocumulus stratiformis translucidus perlucidus.

Or, given that it is difficult to gauge altitude from a photograph,
possibly high stratocumulus.



Probably Ac I'd say.

Will
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Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:10:58 AM UTC-4, wrote:
"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 9:17:11 AM UTC-4, Asha Santon wrote:
I just made a new photo to replace an old one made by dear mama.

Could some kind person tell me what type of cloud this is?
http://pictures.opcop.org.uk/new99.htm

The sky is full of this type just now and if I know what it is, I can
change the title on the page.
If there's somewhere I can look such things up to avoid bothering the ng
please do tell.

Thanks in anticipation of someone being nice

========

Altocumulus stratiformis translucidus perlucidus.

Or, given that it is difficult to gauge altitude from a photograph,
possibly high stratocumulus.



Probably Ac I'd say.

Will
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Yes, I think so. It immediately looks like Ac but I couldn't entirely rule out Sc.

Stephen.

"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:10:58 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 9:17:11 AM UTC-4, Asha Santon wrote:
I just made a new photo to replace an old one made by dear mama.

Could some kind person tell me what type of cloud this is?
http://pictures.opcop.org.uk/new99.htm

The sky is full of this type just now and if I know what it is, I can
change the title on the page.
If there's somewhere I can look such things up to avoid bothering the
ng
please do tell.

Thanks in anticipation of someone being nice

========

Altocumulus stratiformis translucidus perlucidus.

Or, given that it is difficult to gauge altitude from a photograph,
possibly high stratocumulus.



Probably Ac I'd say.


Yes, I think so. It immediately looks like Ac but I couldn't entirely rule
out Sc.


Indeed not. Even outside height can be deceptive. I remember one night shift
way back in the 70s as a trainee observer; it was around dawn and I said to
my colleague that there was a bit of stratus outside. He immediately
corrected me and said I don't think so, that is cirrus s****atus at around
20000 feet! Only 19500 feet out. Air traffic control would not have been
pleased if I had reported patchy stratus. I was fooled by the fact that the
cirrus showed up dark and was moving quite fast. The CBR was no help (it
would not have recorded cirrus) as the cloud was not over it. When the sun
came up, my error became obvious :-)

Will
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:29:13 AM UTC-4, wrote:
"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:10:58 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 9:17:11 AM UTC-4, Asha Santon wrote:
I just made a new photo to replace an old one made by dear mama.

Could some kind person tell me what type of cloud this is?
http://pictures.opcop.org.uk/new99.htm

The sky is full of this type just now and if I know what it is, I can
change the title on the page.
If there's somewhere I can look such things up to avoid bothering the
ng
please do tell.

Thanks in anticipation of someone being nice

========

Altocumulus stratiformis translucidus perlucidus.

Or, given that it is difficult to gauge altitude from a photograph,
possibly high stratocumulus.



Probably Ac I'd say.


Yes, I think so. It immediately looks like Ac but I couldn't entirely rule
out Sc.


Indeed not. Even outside height can be deceptive. I remember one night shift
way back in the 70s as a trainee observer; it was around dawn and I said to
my colleague that there was a bit of stratus outside. He immediately
corrected me and said I don't think so, that is cirrus s****atus at around
20000 feet! Only 19500 feet out. Air traffic control would not have been
pleased if I had reported patchy stratus. I was fooled by the fact that the
cirrus showed up dark and was moving quite fast. The CBR was no help (it
would not have recorded cirrus) as the cloud was not over it. When the sun
came up, my error became obvious :-)

Will
--
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

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Observing at night often presented these kinds of problems.

At London Weather Centre the issue was exacerbated by light pollution. Oftentimes one would have merrily reported clear skies on the hour through the night only to be confronted by several oktas of thin high cirrus at dawn - which may or may not have present previously.

There was an article written a few years ago which made a case for mechanisms that caused dispersal of cirrus overnight; but I wondered if the author missed the simple point that it's simply a bugger to see at night.

As for lower cloud, we had one observer for a while who seemed only ever to observe two stratiform types - Sc at 2500' or St at a peculiarly high 2000'. In a westerly it was wise to at least look at what upstream sites with CBRs were reporting, especially LHR. He never caught on.

Stephen.

On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:29:05 +0100
"Eskimo Will" wrote:


"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:10:58 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 9:17:11 AM UTC-4, Asha Santon
wrote:
I just made a new photo to replace an old one made by dear mama.

Could some kind person tell me what type of cloud this is?
http://pictures.opcop.org.uk/new99.htm

The sky is full of this type just now and if I know what it is,
I can change the title on the page.
If there's somewhere I can look such things up to avoid
bothering the ng
please do tell.

Thanks in anticipation of someone being nice

========

Altocumulus stratiformis translucidus perlucidus.

Or, given that it is difficult to gauge altitude from a
photograph, possibly high stratocumulus.



Probably Ac I'd say.


Yes, I think so. It immediately looks like Ac but I couldn't
entirely rule out Sc.


Indeed not. Even outside height can be deceptive. I remember one
night shift way back in the 70s as a trainee observer; it was around
dawn and I said to my colleague that there was a bit of stratus
outside. He immediately corrected me and said I don't think so, that
is cirrus s****atus at around 20000 feet! Only 19500 feet out. Air
traffic control would not have been pleased if I had reported patchy
stratus. I was fooled by the fact that the cirrus showed up dark and
was moving quite fast. The CBR was no help (it would not have
recorded cirrus) as the cloud was not over it. When the sun came up,
my error became obvious :-)


While we're on the subject of Ac, I remember seeing a typical "mackerel
sky" one evening about fifty years ago. Typical apart from it being in a
field at about half-a-dozen feet above the ground. I think it may have
been raining earlier and then the sky cleared. I only recently thought
how it had formed and I reckon cold air had rolled down the slope of the
field into a clump of trees at the bottom. A flow of air from the
trees then rolled up the hill creating turbulence at the interface of
the two flows. "Cloud", no more than a foot thick, then formed in the
turbulent layer.

I've seen Ci thicken and darken until it blotted out the sun, having
gone through the As stage where the sun could be seen weakly as through
ground glass. It then developed large, black, ragged rolls like Sc or
St at 800-1,000ft. An aircraft reported the base at 25,000ft with top
34,000.

Nearly fifty years ago, there were reports from Australia of Sc that
was estimated at 4,000ft that turned out to be at 25,000ft. One Sunday
lunchtime, a few weeks after seeing those reports, I saw some Ci Spi
change into what looked like separate Sc or shallow Cu cells at what
might have been estimated to be as low as 3,000ft.

There are more instances of where height estimates by experienced
observers have been out by an order of magnitude, either too low or too
high.

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If my memory serves me correctly, CBRs in the early 70s only recorded up to 4000ft.

On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 9:17:11 AM UTC-4, Asha Santon wrote:
I just made a new photo to replace an old one made by dear mama.

Could some kind person tell me what type of cloud this is?
http://pictures.opcop.org.uk/new99.htm

The sky is full of this type just now and if I know what it is, I can
change the title on the page.
If there's somewhere I can look such things up to avoid bothering the ng
please do tell.

Thanks in anticipation of someone being nice

========

I should add, by the way, that altocumulus is the genus, stratiformis the species (meaning, as the word suggests, an extensive layer).

Translucidus and perlucidus are varieties: the former, also easily guessed, meaning translucent - such that the sun or moon may be seen through the cloud. Thick altocumulus is the variety opacus. Perlucidus is less obvious but denotes gaps between cloud cells in the layer. Literally it means something like "allowing light through".

Stephen.