Will be interesting to see how this unfolds - and who gets the job. Surprising.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office...9.html#kxWhf4P

Richard

On Sunday, 23 August 2015 00:36:35 UTC+1, wrote:
Will be interesting to see how this unfolds - and who gets the job. Surprising.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office...9.html#kxWhf4P

Richard

It could spell big job cuts and the beginning of the end of public forecasting.
If they keep using Met Office model data we might not notice much difference.

On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 3:34:14 AM UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 00:36:35 UTC+1, wrote:
Will be interesting to see how this unfolds - and who gets the job. Surprising.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office...9.html#kxWhf4P

Richard

It could spell big job cuts and the beginning of the end of public forecasting.
If they keep using Met Office model data we might not notice much difference.

Does that mean we'd still have a weather warning for the whole of Cornwall until early afternoon, when the rain's long gone?

We are now bathed in sunshine http://www.landsendweather.info/ - At last!

Graham
Penzance

On 23/08/2015 03:34, xmetman wrote:
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 00:36:35 UTC+1, wrote:

Will be interesting to see how this unfolds - and who gets the job. Surprising.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office...9.html#kxWhf4P

Richard

It could spell big job cuts and the beginning of the end of public forecasting.
If they keep using Met Office model data we might not notice much difference.

Won't it be "interesting" if they give the job to Piers Corbyn ;-)

BBC weather forecasts have reached the stage where they are far more
concerned with showing off the whizzy features of their irritating
virtual Britain display than informing people about the weather.

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Martin Brown

On Sunday, 23 August 2015 10:04:30 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:
On 23/08/2015 03:34, xmetman wrote:
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 00:36:35 UTC+1, wrote:

Will be interesting to see how this unfolds - and who gets the job. Surprising.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office...9.html#kxWhf4P

Richard

It could spell big job cuts and the beginning of the end of public forecasting.
If they keep using Met Office model data we might not notice much difference.

Won't it be "interesting" if they give the job to Piers Corbyn ;-)

BBC weather forecasts have reached the stage where they are far more
concerned with showing off the whizzy features of their irritating
virtual Britain display than informing people about the weather.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Piers runs out of a basement in an old building in Southwark Bridge Road, he has a photo copier and old CRT screed ancient pc and a small meeting room and I doubt he can afford that!

BBC forecasts have been decreasing in quality for a while now - but that's nothing to do with Met Office, who provide their own very good presenters and forecasts on their own site every day - far superior to anything on BBC. I think Yahoo have a contract with them.
A Met Office professor after a RMetS meeting earlier this year told me that forecasts would become an ever decreasing part of MetO services. The MetO is a world organisation now and I'd imagine that the BBC contract is just a small part of their business.
I suppose in the grander scheme of things people will no longer be able to "blame the Met Office" when the BBC get it wrong!

On 23/08/2015 08:54, Scott W wrote:
BBC forecasts have been decreasing in quality for a while now - but that's nothing to do with Met Office, who provide their own very good presenters and forecasts on their own site every day - far superior to anything on BBC. I think Yahoo have a contract with them.
A Met Office professor after a RMetS meeting earlier this year told me that forecasts would become an ever decreasing part of MetO services. The MetO is a world organisation now and I'd imagine that the BBC contract is just a small part of their business.
I suppose in the grander scheme of things people will no longer be able to "blame the Met Office" when the BBC get it wrong!


I just saw that Scott.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34031785

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On Sunday, 23 August 2015 08:54:28 UTC+1, Scott W wrote:
BBC forecasts have been decreasing in quality for a while now - but that's nothing to do with Met Office, who provide their own very good presenters and forecasts on their own site every day - far superior to anything on BBC. I think Yahoo have a contract with them.
A Met Office professor after a RMetS meeting earlier this year told me that forecasts would become an ever decreasing part of MetO services. The MetO is a world organisation now and I'd imagine that the BBC contract is just a small part of their business.
I suppose in the grander scheme of things people will no longer be able to "blame the Met Office" when the BBC get it wrong!

Scott

If the source of the NWP data that they use in the forecast is not clearly labeled, I think that most viewers will assume its from the Met office as they do now. What makes a good TV forecast is down to:

(1) good presenters
(2) great graphics
(3) sufficent time to present the forecast in
(4) the best available NWP data
(5) hi-res satellite, weather radar, SFERIC, obsevational and climate data

The Met Office has all these even if the first two are not 100% and (2) and (3) are conrolled by the BBC.

Bruce

On 23/08/2015 09:16, xmetman wrote:
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 08:54:28 UTC+1, Scott W wrote:
BBC forecasts have been decreasing in quality for a while now - but that's nothing to do with Met Office, who provide their own very good presenters and forecasts on their own site every day - far superior to anything on BBC. I think Yahoo have a contract with them.
A Met Office professor after a RMetS meeting earlier this year told me that forecasts would become an ever decreasing part of MetO services. The MetO is a world organisation now and I'd imagine that the BBC contract is just a small part of their business.
I suppose in the grander scheme of things people will no longer be able to "blame the Met Office" when the BBC get it wrong!

Scott

If the source of the NWP data that they use in the forecast is not clearly labeled, I think that most viewers will assume its from the Met office as they do now. What makes a good TV forecast is down to:

(1) good presenters
(2) great graphics
(3) sufficent time to present the forecast in
(4) the best available NWP data
(5) hi-res satellite, weather radar, SFERIC, obsevational and climate data

The Met Office has all these even if the first two are not 100% and (2) and (3) are conrolled by the BBC.

Bruce

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Well we know since Maggie everything has to go out to tender - and look
at the wonderful value for money we get from all those privatised
services. If it goes to a private company and not another National
forecasting service (which would be a joke) at least we will be able to
complain about the Chief Executive earning 180x what the forecasters do
which we can't now.

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 09:31:40 +0100
Hils wrote:

And are they a public sector organisation, or private? They seem to
have become like TOCs and the NHS, charging for services and taking
money from advertisers while also taking large subsidies from
taxpayers. They are certainly not the organisation they were.

The Met Office have always charged commercial companies for services. I
was billing people for my services well over forty years ago. If anyone
wanted a personal consultation with me about sea-ice conditions back
around 1970 it would cost them £40 per hour; an enquiry that only
needed a written response would probably have been charged at about £3
per hour for the work entailed. Any charge that came below £5 would be
provided free of charge as it then cost £5 to raise a bill.

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