Hi, All,
First snow lying of the season this morning. Just 6cm but frozen solid, ground instruments proving difficult to read, it's far too early in the winter for this!

COPLEY MET. OFFICE SITE manual readings 09hr 21st November, Wind NW 15 knots (force 4) gusting 20 knots. Visibility 10 miles. Few clouds. Temperature -1°C Humidity 70%. Barometer (adjusted to sea level) 1011mb rising. Maximum today -0.6°C Last night's minimum -0.9°C Grass minimum -3.1°C 30cm earth 7.7°C Past 24 hours' precipitation 5.3mm Sun today 0.4hr Highest gust today 41knots (47mph). 6cm snow

Have to go out now, will update later.
Ken
Copley
Teesdale

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 09:14:58 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:
Hi, All,
First snow lying of the season this morning. Just 6cm but frozen solid, ground instruments proving difficult to read, it's far too early in the winter for this!

COPLEY MET. OFFICE SITE manual readings 09hr 21st November, Wind NW 15 knots (force 4) gusting 20 knots. Visibility 10 miles. Few clouds. Temperature -1°C Humidity 70%. Barometer (adjusted to sea level) 1011mb rising. Maximum today -0.6°C Last night's minimum -0.9°C Grass minimum -3.1°C 30cm earth 7.7°C Past 24 hours' precipitation 5.3mm Sun today 0.4hr Highest gust today 41knots (47mph). 6cm snow

Have to go out now, will update later.
Ken
Copley
Teesdale

Ken

Did you know weather observations were made for a good number of years at Forest-in-Teesdale? When I was an observer at Leeming in 1970, we used to ring the the two old sisters (I think it was) every hour through the day at the Post office they used to run their. The WMO station number was 03237, and I seemed to think that they got an award because they did it for many years as volunteers.

I was just trying to find the exact location using Google Maps and think it maybe just off the B6277 on the right as you're going towards Alston.

Bruce.

xmetman wrote:

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 09:14:58 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:
Hi, All,
First snow lying of the season this morning. Just 6cm but frozen solid,
ground instruments proving difficult to read, it's far too early in the
winter for this!

COPLEY MET. OFFICE SITE manual readings 09hr 21st November, Wind NW 15
knots (force 4) gusting 20 knots. Visibility 10 miles. Few clouds.
Temperature -1°C Humidity 70%. Barometer (adjusted to sea level) 1011mb
rising. Maximum today -0.6°C Last night's minimum -0.9°C Grass minimum
-3.1°C 30cm earth 7.7°C Past 24 hours' precipitation 5.3mm Sun today
0.4hr Highest gust today 41knots (47mph). 6cm snow

Have to go out now, will update later.
Ken
Copley
Teesdale

Ken

Did you know weather observations were made for a good number of years at
Forest-in-Teesdale? When I was an observer at Leeming in 1970, we used to
ring the the two old sisters (I think it was) every hour through the day at
the Post office they used to run their. The WMO station number was 03237, and
I seemed to think that they got an award because they did it for many years
as volunteers.

I was just trying to find the exact location using Google Maps and think it
maybe just off the B6277 on the right as you're going towards Alston.

Bruce.

Hi Bruce,

According to NCDC, Forest (Stn. No. 03237) is at 54.65 deg N, 002.2 deg W.
The NCDC database contains obs from there from Jan 1973 to Apr 1979

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:21:37 UTC, Norman wrote:
xmetman wrote:

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 09:14:58 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:
Hi, All,
First snow lying of the season this morning. Just 6cm but frozen solid,
ground instruments proving difficult to read, it's far too early in the
winter for this!

COPLEY MET. OFFICE SITE manual readings 09hr 21st November, Wind NW 15
knots (force 4) gusting 20 knots. Visibility 10 miles. Few clouds.
Temperature -1°C Humidity 70%. Barometer (adjusted to sea level) 1011mb
rising. Maximum today -0.6°C Last night's minimum -0.9°C Grass minimum
-3.1°C 30cm earth 7.7°C Past 24 hours' precipitation 5.3mm Sun today
0.4hr Highest gust today 41knots (47mph). 6cm snow

Have to go out now, will update later.
Ken
Copley
Teesdale

Ken

Did you know weather observations were made for a good number of years at
Forest-in-Teesdale? When I was an observer at Leeming in 1970, we used to
ring the the two old sisters (I think it was) every hour through the day at
the Post office they used to run their. The WMO station number was 03237, and
I seemed to think that they got an award because they did it for many years
as volunteers.

I was just trying to find the exact location using Google Maps and think it
maybe just off the B6277 on the right as you're going towards Alston.

Bruce.

Hi Bruce,

According to NCDC, Forest (Stn. No. 03237) is at 54.65 deg N, 002.2 deg W..
The NCDC database contains obs from there from Jan 1973 to Apr 1979

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org

Norman

Yes that's the one.

I've fine tuned it a little by guessing which house the post office might have been, so I make it 54.659571 lat and -2.199077 lon to be exact!

The original lat and lon values you quote and I also had put it at the bottom of a deep quarry good old Met Office!

Bruce.

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 14:57:23 UTC, xmetman wrote:
On Saturday, 21 November 2015 09:14:58 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:
Hi, All,
First snow lying of the season this morning. Just 6cm but frozen solid, ground instruments proving difficult to read, it's far too early in the winter for this!

COPLEY MET. OFFICE SITE manual readings 09hr 21st November, Wind NW 15 knots (force 4) gusting 20 knots. Visibility 10 miles. Few clouds. Temperature -1°C Humidity 70%. Barometer (adjusted to sea level) 1011mb rising. Maximum today -0.6°C Last night's minimum -0.9°C Grass minimum -3..1°C 30cm earth 7.7°C Past 24 hours' precipitation 5.3mm Sun today 0..4hr Highest gust today 41knots (47mph). 6cm snow

Have to go out now, will update later.
Ken
Copley
Teesdale

Ken

Did you know weather observations were made for a good number of years at Forest-in-Teesdale? When I was an observer at Leeming in 1970, we used to ring the the two old sisters (I think it was) every hour through the day at the Post office they used to run their. The WMO station number was 03237, and I seemed to think that they got an award because they did it for many years as volunteers.

I was just trying to find the exact location using Google Maps and think it maybe just off the B6277 on the right as you're going towards Alston.

Bruce.

Hi, Bruce,
Yes, the Redfearn sisters. They also recorded the deepest level snow ever recorded in England in March 1947 at 83 inches, 211cm.The actual metform is at Exeter
Ken
Copley
Lower down Teesdale

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 16:38:20 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:
On Saturday, 21 November 2015 14:57:23 UTC, xmetman wrote:
On Saturday, 21 November 2015 09:14:58 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:
Hi, All,
First snow lying of the season this morning. Just 6cm but frozen solid, ground instruments proving difficult to read, it's far too early in the winter for this!

COPLEY MET. OFFICE SITE manual readings 09hr 21st November, Wind NW 15 knots (force 4) gusting 20 knots. Visibility 10 miles. Few clouds. Temperature -1°C Humidity 70%. Barometer (adjusted to sea level) 1011mb rising. Maximum today -0.6°C Last night's minimum -0.9°C Grass minimum -3.1°C 30cm earth 7.7°C Past 24 hours' precipitation 5.3mm Sun today 0.4hr Highest gust today 41knots (47mph). 6cm snow

Have to go out now, will update later.
Ken
Copley
Teesdale

Ken

Did you know weather observations were made for a good number of years at Forest-in-Teesdale? When I was an observer at Leeming in 1970, we used to ring the the two old sisters (I think it was) every hour through the day at the Post office they used to run their. The WMO station number was 03237, and I seemed to think that they got an award because they did it for many years as volunteers.

I was just trying to find the exact location using Google Maps and think it maybe just off the B6277 on the right as you're going towards Alston.

Bruce.

Hi, Bruce,
Yes, the Redfearn sisters. They also recorded the deepest level snow ever recorded in England in March 1947 at 83 inches, 211cm.The actual metform is at Exeter
Ken
Copley
Lower down Teesdale

Hi Ken

Yes, I remember speaking to them on the phone. Never had a car then to get about so I never paid Teesdale a visit, although we kind of passed close by in the summer of 1979 when my wife and I did the Pennine way (north-south) that year. I don't think they had a proper anemometer and used to estimate the wind I think.

Bruce.

In message , Ken
Cook writes
Yes, the Redfearn sisters. They also recorded the deepest level snow
ever recorded in England in March 1947 at 83 inches, 211cm.The actual
metform is at Exeter

Measuring snow that deep must present quite a challenge. How would one
go about it? I assume that one can't just add the depth of successive
falls, even if it's been below freezing throughout, because of
compaction and sublimation.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:41:06 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message Ken
Cook writes
Yes, the Redfearn sisters. They also recorded the deepest level snow
ever recorded in England in March 1947 at 83 inches, 211cm.The actual
metform is at Exeter

Measuring snow that deep must present quite a challenge. How would one
go about it? I assume that one can't just add the depth of successive
falls, even if it's been below freezing throughout, because of
compaction and sublimation.
--
John Hall

Hi, John,
I expect the MetO rules would be abandoned! Personally I would stick a large pole where the most level snow was, graduate it and, with the help of a ladder attempt to measure.
I would have also become sick of the stuff way before then!
Ken
Copley

On Saturday, 21 November 2015 19:57:48 UTC, Ken Cook wrote:
On Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:41:06 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message Ken
Cook writes
Yes, the Redfearn sisters. They also recorded the deepest level snow
ever recorded in England in March 1947 at 83 inches, 211cm.The actual
metform is at Exeter

Measuring snow that deep must present quite a challenge. How would one
go about it? I assume that one can't just add the depth of successive
falls, even if it's been below freezing throughout, because of
compaction and sublimation.
--
John Hall

Hi, John,
I expect the MetO rules would be abandoned! Personally I would stick a large pole where the most level snow was, graduate it and, with the help of a ladder attempt to measure.
I would have also become sick of the stuff way before then!
Ken
Copley

Who knows it could be that the washing pole at the top of the garden was exactly 7 feet high!

On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 9:14:58 AM UTC, Ken Cook wrote:
Hi, All,
First snow lying of the season this morning. Just 6cm but frozen solid, ground instruments proving difficult to read, it's far too early in the winter for this!

COPLEY MET. OFFICE SITE manual readings 09hr 21st November, Wind NW 15 knots (force 4) gusting 20 knots. Visibility 10 miles. Few clouds. Temperature -1°C Humidity 70%. Barometer (adjusted to sea level) 1011mb rising. Maximum today -0.6°C Last night's minimum -0.9°C Grass minimum -3.1°C 30cm earth 7.7°C Past 24 hours' precipitation 5.3mm Sun today 0.4hr Highest gust today 41knots (47mph). 6cm snow

Have to go out now, will update later.
Ken
Copley
Teesdale

That is cold! Mind you this spell is warm compared with late November 2010, when even Perranporth beach froze http://www.turnstone-cottage.co.uk/ExtremeNov2010.pdf That was my record November cold spe;; by a large margin.

Anyway, it's all too cold for me, so I'm taking my daughter to Eden tomorrow (cheap locals pass in November). We can sit in T Shirts in he tropical biome & dream of summer!

At least the wind's dropped now gusting to around 40kt at St Ives, compared with a peak gust of 69.6kt http://www.nci-stives.org/weather/Cu...antage_Pro.htm
The very strong winds in the early hours a combined effect of the pressure gradient, the dangler effect giving some viscious squalls, and funnelling around the tip of Cornwall.

Graham
Penzance