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172 mm so far this year, which while all in a day's work for Capel Curig, is extraordinary for east Scotland. And I'm sure my Davis gauge under-records.
To put it in perspective, I recorded only 547 mm for the whole of 2001. My village is now cut off. And of course there's been no sunshine either. Trevor In a very wet Sidlaw Hills location north of Dundee Weather now from www.trevorharley.com |
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On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 2:57:24 PM UTC, Trevor Harley wrote:
172 mm so far this year, which while all in a day's work for Capel Curig, is extraordinary for east Scotland. And I'm sure my Davis gauge under-records. To put it in perspective, I recorded only 547 mm for the whole of 2001. My village is now cut off. And of course there's been no sunshine either. Trevor In a very wet Sidlaw Hills location north of Dundee Weather now from www.trevorharley.com That is a very impressive total. What's your normal January rainfall Trevor? Graham Penzance |
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On 07/01/2016 14:57, Trevor Harley wrote:
172 mm so far this year, which while all in a day's work for Capel Curig, is extraordinary for east Scotland. And I'm sure my Davis gauge under-records. To put it in perspective, I recorded only 547 mm for the whole of 2001. My village is now cut off. And of course there's been no sunshine either. Trevor In a very wet Sidlaw Hills location north of Dundee Weather now from www.trevorharley.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I fear you will be ice skating to get around next week Trevor! |
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 06:57:24 -0800 (PST), Trevor Harley
wrote: 172 mm so far this year, which while all in a day's work for Capel Curig, is extraordinary for east Scotland. And I'm sure my Davis gauge under-records. I think most people who have a Davis AWS and a standard 5" manual raingauge find that the Davis systematically under-reads. Mine does by a variable factor of 10-20%. I suspect that much of the variability is wind-speed related. If your total of 172 mm is based solely on the Davis measurements then my guess is that the true rainfall is likely to be at least 190 mm. As you say, extraordinary for east Scotland. Statistics published in Met.O.856c for the 30-year period 1931-1960 give the following averages for January: Arbroath 57 mm Braemar 96 mm Craibstone 78 mm Dunbar 47 mm Dundee 65 mm Edinburgh 57 mm Gordon Castle 62 mm Marchmont 71 mm Nairn 49 mm Perth 70 mm Rattray Head 36 mm Stirling 101 mm Wick 85 mm These figures confirm that your measurement of 172 mm for the first few days of January really is exceptional. |
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On 07/01/2016 16:10, Norman Lynagh wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 06:57:24 -0800 (PST), Trevor Harley wrote: 172 mm so far this year, which while all in a day's work for Capel Curig, is extraordinary for east Scotland. And I'm sure my Davis gauge under-records. I think most people who have a Davis AWS and a standard 5" manual raingauge find that the Davis systematically under-reads. Mine does by a variable factor of 10-20%. I suspect that much of the variability is wind-speed related. If your total of 172 mm is based solely on the Davis measurements then my guess is that the true rainfall is likely to be at least 190 mm. As you say, extraordinary for east Scotland. Statistics published in Met.O.856c for the 30-year period 1931-1960 give the following averages for January: Arbroath 57 mm Braemar 96 mm Craibstone 78 mm Dunbar 47 mm Dundee 65 mm Edinburgh 57 mm Gordon Castle 62 mm Marchmont 71 mm Nairn 49 mm Perth 70 mm Rattray Head 36 mm Stirling 101 mm Wick 85 mm These figures confirm that your measurement of 172 mm for the first few days of January really is exceptional. As an aside the 1981-2010 January figures I have managed to obtain for 'Edinburgh' show Royal Botanical Gdns 69mm, Gogarbank (the current 'Edinburgh' I believe - it's near the airport, 76mm), and Penicuik, which is probably more representative of where I am, 100mm. Whatever, I have noticed that rainfall totals are highly variable in areas such as this and the January rainfall thus far is a mere 17mm. Less than 10% of Trevor's deluge. -- George in Swanston, Edinburgh, 580'asl www.swanstonweather.co.uk www.eppingweather.co.uk www.winter1947.co.uk |
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 06:57:24 -0800 (PST), Trevor Harley
wrote: 172 mm so far this year,... Here, 40.2mm. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather |
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The January average here over the last 20 years has been 79.1 mm. The total this month up to 6 pm is 179.4, so that's 227%.
At least I'm stuck at home. I wouldn't like to be marooned the other side of the floods. I am however down to my last three bottles of red wine so much as I like severe weather I'm glad that it seems to have stopped raining for now. The Met Office has an amber alert for rain here tomorrow, but no rain is forecast according to the BBC. It's the lack of sunshine that really gets me. None since the 29th of December, and just 1511 minutes in the whole of last month. Trevor |
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I've vaguely attributed to the Davis gauge under-recording to high rainfall rates, but I suppose that can't be right. It has been very windy here too. I have a cheap manual gauge too, and occasions that has read up to 30% more, but as you say, usually about 20% more. I can't use it now because the water table is so high my rain gauge floated away.
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On 07/01/2016 14:57, Trevor Harley wrote:
172 mm so far this year, which while all in a day's work for Capel Curig, is extraordinary for east Scotland. And I'm sure my Davis gauge under-records. To put it in perspective, I recorded only 547 mm for the whole of 2001. My village is now cut off. And of course there's been no sunshine either. Trevor In a very wet Sidlaw Hills location north of Dundee Weather now from www.trevorharley.com Northampton has had 28.8mm. Feels like we are in the middle of a drought!!! jim, Northampton |
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 06:57:24 -0800 (PST), Trevor Harley
wrote: 172 mm so far this year, which while all in a day's work for Capel Curig, is extraordinary for east Scotland. And I'm sure my Davis gauge under-records. To put it in perspective, I recorded only 547 mm for the whole of 2001. My village is now cut off. And of course there's been no sunshine either. 56 mm here to midnight just gone, average ~85mm for the month, peanuts compared to yours but still enough to send the local River Meon to the brink of flooding roads. The house-less flood plain is doing its job though, it's flooded. -- Dave Fareham (W) |
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