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I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England.
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Scott W writes I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England. http://wp.me/p2VSmb-22O Thanks. Assuming that the isotherms are for the sea temperature, it's noticeable how cold the North Sea was, which must have minimised the warming of the air passing over it. It's surprising that the sea temperature was still so low, since the mean CETs of January, February and March were 2.7, 3.4 and 6.6. See also http://www.weather-banter.co.uk/uk-s...ch-1952-a.html where someone has archived Peter Clarke's post to this newsgroup about the blizzard back in 2005. (It doesn't look as though Google Groups has it for some reason.) -- John Hall "One can certainly imagine the myriad of uses for a hand-held iguana maker" Hobbes (the tiger, not the philosopher!) |
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On 29/03/2017 19:07, John Hall wrote:
In message , Scott W writes I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England. http://wp.me/p2VSmb-22O Thanks. Assuming that the isotherms are for the sea temperature, it's noticeable how cold the North Sea was, which must have minimised the warming of the air passing over it. It's surprising that the sea temperature was still so low, since the mean CETs of January, February and March were 2.7, 3.4 and 6.6. See also http://www.weather-banter.co.uk/uk-s...ch-1952-a.html where someone has archived Peter Clarke's post to this newsgroup about the blizzard back in 2005. (It doesn't look as though Google Groups has it for some reason.) In the early 1960's I purchased a copy of the UKMO book 'Weather Map - an introduction to weather forecasting'*. On page 96 starts a description, including maps, of this event under the heading 'Snowstorm'. I pored over this, annotated the charts and was generally most impressed by the set-up. Didn't have long to wait for the next major snow event though. * Plenty of used copies available on Ebay, Amazon etc -- George in Swanston, Edinburgh, 580'asl www.swanstonweather.co.uk |
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On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:14:05 UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
In message , Scott W writes I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England. http://wp.me/p2VSmb-22O Thanks. Assuming that the isotherms are for the sea temperature, it's noticeable how cold the North Sea was, which must have minimised the warming of the air passing over it. It's surprising that the sea temperature was still so low, since the mean CETs of January, February and March were 2.7, 3.4 and 6.6. Thanks, John. I was rather hoping you were going to post your own memories of the blizzard ![]() |
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Scott W writes On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:14:05 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: In message , Scott W writes I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England. http://wp.me/p2VSmb-22O Thanks. Assuming that the isotherms are for the sea temperature, it's noticeable how cold the North Sea was, which must have minimised the warming of the air passing over it. It's surprising that the sea temperature was still so low, since the mean CETs of January, February and March were 2.7, 3.4 and 6.6. Thanks, John. I was rather hoping you were going to post your own memories of the blizzard ![]() ![]() I was three at the time, and sadly don't have any memory of it at all. That's in spite of the fact that we apparently moved house from Cranleigh to Effingham (about 15 miles away) on the day of the blizzard. According to my father, it snowed all day, but the following day - which he reckoned was the 1st April - the weather was glorious and all the snow was gone by noon. I don't think his memory is quite in accordance with the facts, but of course that's common with memories of past weather. -- John Hall "One can certainly imagine the myriad of uses for a hand-held iguana maker" Hobbes (the tiger, not the philosopher!) |
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On Thursday, 30 March 2017 10:52:29 UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
In message , Scott W writes On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:14:05 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: In message , Scott W writes I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England. http://wp.me/p2VSmb-22O Thanks. Assuming that the isotherms are for the sea temperature, it's noticeable how cold the North Sea was, which must have minimised the warming of the air passing over it. It's surprising that the sea temperature was still so low, since the mean CETs of January, February and March were 2.7, 3.4 and 6.6. Thanks, John. I was rather hoping you were going to post your own memories of the blizzard ![]() ![]() I was three at the time, and sadly don't have any memory of it at all. That's in spite of the fact that we apparently moved house from Cranleigh to Effingham (about 15 miles away) on the day of the blizzard. According to my father, it snowed all day, but the following day - which he reckoned was the 1st April - the weather was glorious and all the snow was gone by noon. I don't think his memory is quite in accordance with the facts, but of course that's common with memories of past weather. Thanks, John, could I add that to the blog - memories of the event are very sketchy, unlike the January 1987 cold spell. |
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"Scott W" wrote in message
... On Thursday, 30 March 2017 10:52:29 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: In message , Scott W writes On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:14:05 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: In message , Scott W writes I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England. Thanks, John. I was rather hoping you were going to post your own memories of the blizzard ![]() ![]() I was three at the time, and sadly don't have any memory of it at all. That's in spite of the fact that we apparently moved house from Cranleigh to Effingham (about 15 miles away) on the day of the blizzard. According to my father, it snowed all day, but the following day - which he reckoned was the 1st April - the weather was glorious and all the snow was gone by noon. I don't think his memory is quite in accordance with the facts, but of course that's common with memories of past weather. Thanks, John, could I add that to the blog - memories of the event are very sketchy, unlike the January 1987 cold spell. I remember the day very well as the Oxford/Cambridge boat race was held that afternoon. I was 14 at the time, and my brother-in-law gave me a ticket for a place on a launch to watch the race. My home was in Tooting at the time, and I took the bus to Westminster pier to catch the launch. I recall sitting upstairs on the bus with a thick layer of snow covering the front facing windows, but the roads and pavements were mainly slushy. I then spent one of the most miserable afternoons I can recall. There was a 'lounge' on the boat, which was warm, but was also full of diesel fumes and was very noisy. I alternately stood outside on the deck until the cold got too much, or went below for warmth until the fumes got the better of me. I recall bleak views of London with snow on roofs, in a poor grey afternoon light, but I think it was mainly dry at that time, although there may have been slight sleety rain. The boat race itself was a close one, but the crowds that usually lined the banks of the river were absent, just a few hardy stragglers, and by the time of the race I had a headache, probably brought on by the fumes. For my part, I couldn't wait to get back to Westminster and back home to thaw out. -- Bernard Burton Satellite images and weather data for Wokingham at: www.woksat.info/wwp.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 4:55:49 PM UTC+1, Bernard Burton wrote:
"Scott W" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 30 March 2017 10:52:29 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: In message , Scott W writes On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:14:05 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: In message , Scott W writes I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England. Thanks, John. I was rather hoping you were going to post your own memories of the blizzard ![]() ![]() I was three at the time, and sadly don't have any memory of it at all. That's in spite of the fact that we apparently moved house from Cranleigh to Effingham (about 15 miles away) on the day of the blizzard. According to my father, it snowed all day, but the following day - which he reckoned was the 1st April - the weather was glorious and all the snow was gone by noon. I don't think his memory is quite in accordance with the facts, but of course that's common with memories of past weather. Thanks, John, could I add that to the blog - memories of the event are very sketchy, unlike the January 1987 cold spell. I remember the day very well as the Oxford/Cambridge boat race was held that afternoon. I was 14 at the time, and my brother-in-law gave me a ticket for a place on a launch to watch the race. My home was in Tooting at the time, and I took the bus to Westminster pier to catch the launch. I recall sitting upstairs on the bus with a thick layer of snow covering the front facing windows, but the roads and pavements were mainly slushy. I then spent one of the most miserable afternoons I can recall. There was a 'lounge' on the boat, which was warm, but was also full of diesel fumes and was very noisy. I alternately stood outside on the deck until the cold got too much, or went below for warmth until the fumes got the better of me. I recall bleak views of London with snow on roofs, in a poor grey afternoon light, but I think it was mainly dry at that time, although there may have been slight sleety rain. The boat race itself was a close one, but the crowds that usually lined the banks of the river were absent, just a few hardy stragglers, and by the time of the race I had a headache, probably brought on by the fumes. For my part, I couldn't wait to get back to Westminster and back home to thaw out. Very interesting, Bernard. Would you be happy for your comment to be added to my blog? |
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Bernard Burton wrote:
"Scott W" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 30 March 2017 10:52:29 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: In message , Scott W writes On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:14:05 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: In message , Scott W writes I am indebted to Bruce for flagging this up but I've written a few lines on this event that happened on this day 65 years ago: 10 inches of snow in Northolt and sub-zero temps across a large part of southern England. Thanks, John. I was rather hoping you were going to post your own memories of the blizzard ![]() ![]() I was three at the time, and sadly don't have any memory of it at all. That's in spite of the fact that we apparently moved house from Cranleigh to Effingham (about 15 miles away) on the day of the blizzard. According to my father, it snowed all day, but the following day - which he reckoned was the 1st April - the weather was glorious and all the snow was gone by noon. I don't think his memory is quite in accordance with the facts, but of course that's common with memories of past weather. Thanks, John, could I add that to the blog - memories of the event are very sketchy, unlike the January 1987 cold spell. I remember the day very well as the Oxford/Cambridge boat race was held that afternoon. I was 14 at the time, and my brother-in-law gave me a ticket for a place on a launch to watch the race. My home was in Tooting at the time, and I took the bus to Westminster pier to catch the launch. I recall sitting upstairs on the bus with a thick layer of snow covering the front facing windows, but the roads and pavements were mainly slushy. I then spent one of the most miserable afternoons I can recall. There was a 'lounge' on the boat, which was warm, but was also full of diesel fumes and was very noisy. I alternately stood outside on the deck until the cold got too much, or went below for warmth until the fumes got the better of me. I recall bleak views of London with snow on roofs, in a poor grey afternoon light, but I think it was mainly dry at that time, although there may have been slight sleety rain. The boat race itself was a close one, but the crowds that usually lined the banks of the river were absent, just a few hardy stragglers, and by the time of the race I had a headache, probably brought on by the fumes. For my part, I couldn't wait to get back to Westminster and back home to thaw out. There's Pathe News footage of that Boat Race at https://youtu.be/C4lo5bUl66w -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. http://peakdistrictweather.org Twitter: @TideswellWeathr |
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Scott W writes On Thursday, 30 March 2017 10:52:29 UTC+1, John Hall wrote: I was three at the time, and sadly don't have any memory of it at all. That's in spite of the fact that we apparently moved house from Cranleigh to Effingham (about 15 miles away) on the day of the blizzard. According to my father, it snowed all day, but the following day - which he reckoned was the 1st April - the weather was glorious and all the snow was gone by noon. I don't think his memory is quite in accordance with the facts, but of course that's common with memories of past weather. Thanks, John, could I add that to the blog - memories of the event are very sketchy, unlike the January 1987 cold spell. Feel free, so long as you include the caveat. I think the day of the blizzard was Saturday the 29th, and that the day of the rapid thaw would actually have been Monday the 31st or Tuesday the 1st, rather than the day after the blizzard. -- John Hall "One can certainly imagine the myriad of uses for a hand-held iguana maker" Hobbes (the tiger, not the philosopher!) |
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