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Definitely OT, but may be of interest (if you haven't come across it
already): There's a lady living on Svalbard who publishes regular (eg weekly) YouTube videos about life on Svalbard. The weather is relatively extreme of course, but plenty of modern amenities too (at least for those that live in the village). Here's one sampler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMqm-bCO4Ec |
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On Tuesday, 26 January 2021 at 11:11:34 UTC, JGD wrote:
Definitely OT, but may be of interest (if you haven't come across it already): There's a lady living on Svalbard who publishes regular (eg weekly) YouTube videos about life on Svalbard. The weather is relatively extreme of course, but plenty of modern amenities too (at least for those that live in the village). Here's one sampler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMqm-bCO4Ec Yes it is interesting, thanks. Getting supplies there in winter must be quite an issue, I must watch more of her videos. It's bad enough out on Scilly (Population 2,000 of which 400 live on the 4 inhabited off Islands). There is no Ferry in winter, just the freight ship 3 times a week. There is an air service from Lands End in Islanders, but clearly that is not the way you're going to get emergency supplies like potatoes & beer in. Going by air or boat in winter can be a very interesting experience. In fact, out in the Atlantic the weather frequently verges on the frightening, 2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl3_2bkYfOQ That sea wall, middle distance, is higher than the centre of High Town, the only 'town' on the Islands. The road slopes down through Hugh Town to the Harbour, so if that wall is breached . . The very high sea level early in the clip is a good example of a wave setup surge, the level starting to drop back towards the end. In a normal Spring tide, the waves are some way from reaching even the base of the sea wall. I loved my days when I could visit the Islands regularly at the Steamship Companies expense! Graham Penzance |
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Graham Easterling writes On Tuesday, 26 January 2021 at 11:11:34 UTC, JGD wrote: Definitely OT, but may be of interest (if you haven't come across it already): There's a lady living on Svalbard who publishes regular (eg weekly) YouTube videos about life on Svalbard. The weather is relatively extreme of course, but plenty of modern amenities too (at least for those that live in the village). Here's one sampler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMqm-bCO4Ec Yes it is interesting, thanks. Getting supplies there in winter must be quite an issue, I must watch more of her videos. It's bad enough out on Scilly (Population 2,000 of which 400 live on the 4 inhabited off Islands). There is no Ferry in winter, just the freight ship 3 times a week. There is an air service from Lands End in Islanders, but clearly that is not the way you're going to get emergency supplies like potatoes & beer in. Going by air or boat in winter can be a very interesting experience. In fact, out in the Atlantic the weather frequently verges on the frightening, snip I know that Hurtigruten runs a ferry and cargo service up the coast of Norway throughout the year, as some places even on the mainland can be pretty much impossible to reach by any means other than sea. I don't know, but I imagine that their route would also take in Svalbard. It must get very hairy at times, though, and presumably would be impossible if the Arctic sea-ice ever extends to surround the island. (Though that might be less of a problem now than it would have been a few decades ago.) -- John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Anon |
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John Hall wrote:
In message , Graham Easterling writes On Tuesday, 26 January 2021 at 11:11:34 UTC, JGD wrote: Definitely OT, but may be of interest (if you haven't come across it already): There's a lady living on Svalbard who publishes regular (eg weekly) YouTube videos about life on Svalbard. The weather is relatively extreme of course, but plenty of modern amenities too (at least for those that live in the village). Here's one sampler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMqm-bCO4Ec Yes it is interesting, thanks. Getting supplies there in winter must be quite an issue, I must watch more of her videos. It's bad enough out on Scilly (Population 2,000 of which 400 live on the 4 inhabited off Islands). There is no Ferry in winter, just the freight ship 3 times a week. There is an air service from Lands End in Islanders, but clearly that is not the way you're going to get emergency supplies like potatoes & beer in. Going by air or boat in winter can be a very interesting experience. In fact, out in the Atlantic the weather frequently verges on the frightening, snip I know that Hurtigruten runs a ferry and cargo service up the coast of Norway throughout the year, as some places even on the mainland can be pretty much impossible to reach by any means other than sea. I don't know, but I imagine that their route would also take in Svalbard. It must get very hairy at times, though, and presumably would be impossible if the Arctic sea-ice ever extends to surround the island. (Though that might be less of a problem now than it would have been a few decades ago.) We've done the Bergen-Kirkenes-Bergen round trip on the Hurtigruten twice in recent years, once in February on one of their large ships, the 'Finnmarken' and once in July on the last of their small traditional ships, the 'Lofoten' (launched in 1963). A stunning trip in either season. There' a video at the following address of the whole northbound trip speeded up to only 37 minutes elapsed time at https://youtu.be/2uXzkNYsQfM Loads more Hurtigruten videos on Youtube. Well worth a look. I first became interested in the Hurtigruten trip about 50 years ago (but I didn't make the trip then). At that time, it did extend to Svalbard in summer but it doesn't today. The two trips we did are two of the best holidays we have ever had. In 'normal' times a ship departs Bergen every evening of the year, except Christmas Day, for the 12-day round trip. I think the service is currently suspended. -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. https://peakdistrictweather.org Twitter: @TideswellWeathr |
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In message , Norman Lynagh
writes snip fascinating stuff In 'normal' times a ship departs Bergen every evening of the year, except Christmas Day, for the 12-day round trip. I think the service is currently suspended. I'm a little surprised by that, as for some small ports inaccessible except by sea I believe the Hurtigruten service is pretty much their only contact with the outside world. I know that back in March, when Norway first closed their ports to cruise ships, they made an exception for Hurtigruten ferry and cargo operations, though presumably they would no longer have been allowed to carry tourists. I could understand if they had since banned ferry passengers, but I would have thought the cargo and mail delivery side would have been viewed as essential. -- John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Anon |
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On Wednesday, 27 January 2021 at 21:11:47 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message , Norman Lynagh writes snip fascinating stuff In 'normal' times a ship departs Bergen every evening of the year, except Christmas Day, for the 12-day round trip. I think the service is currently suspended. I'm a little surprised by that, as for some small ports inaccessible except by sea I believe the Hurtigruten service is pretty much their only contact with the outside world. I know that back in March, when Norway first closed their ports to cruise ships, they made an exception for Hurtigruten ferry and cargo operations, though presumably they would no longer have been allowed to carry tourists. I could understand if they had since banned ferry passengers, but I would have thought the cargo and mail delivery side would have been viewed as essential. -- John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Anon You can track shipping in & out of Svalbard here https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...ry:71.5/zoom:5 A supply ship will be green. Currently plenty of fishing still going on, a bit chilly I should imagine. The supply ship to Scilly is currently at St Mary's. It can normally take a few passengers, but at the moment you'd need an excellent reason to be travelling, basically key workers. I know that 4 or 5 days without a supply ship & the Coop on Scilly (there is only 1 supermarket) is pretty much stripped bare. Graham Penzance |
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On Wednesday, 27 January 2021 at 21:29:56 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 January 2021 at 21:11:47 UTC, John Hall wrote: In message , Norman Lynagh writes snip fascinating stuff In 'normal' times a ship departs Bergen every evening of the year, except Christmas Day, for the 12-day round trip. I think the service is currently suspended. I'm a little surprised by that, as for some small ports inaccessible except by sea I believe the Hurtigruten service is pretty much their only contact with the outside world. I know that back in March, when Norway first closed their ports to cruise ships, they made an exception for Hurtigruten ferry and cargo operations, though presumably they would no longer have been allowed to carry tourists. I could understand if they had since banned ferry passengers, but I would have thought the cargo and mail delivery side would have been viewed as essential. -- John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Anon You can track shipping in & out of Svalbard here https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...ry:71.5/zoom:5 A supply ship will be green. Currently plenty of fishing still going on, a bit chilly I should imagine. The supply ship to Scilly is currently at St Mary's. It can normally take a few passengers, but at the moment you'd need an excellent reason to be travelling, basically key workers. I know that 4 or 5 days without a supply ship & the Coop on Scilly (there is only 1 supermarket) is pretty much stripped bare. Graham Penzance This appears to be a cargo ship currently on Svalbard https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...sel:NOVIY_SVET Graham |
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Graham Easterling writes This appears to be a cargo ship currently on Svalbard https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...402588/mmsi:27 3384970/imo:8509557/vessel:NOVIY_SVET It's amazing how much information can now be found on the web. -- John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Anon |
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