The met office website is showing minimum temperatures of -7 and -9 for
Penrith at the weekend.

http://www.meto.gov.uk/weather/europ...s/penrith.html

I don't see any proof of this from other charts yet. Does anyone know of a
source to back this up.

Thanks,

Calum.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:20:31 -0000, Calum wrote in


The met office website is showing minimum temperatures of -7 and -9 for
Penrith at the weekend.

http://www.meto.gov.uk/weather/europ...s/penrith.html

I don't see any proof of this from other charts yet. Does anyone know of a
source to back this up.

I'd take that page with a large dose of salt:-) It looks like the usual
computer generated rubbish many of us have seen over the months. It may go
below 0C, but not that far.

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http://www.mtullett.plus.com/20-nov/

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writes
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:20:31 -0000, Calum wrote in


The met office website is showing minimum temperatures of -7 and -9 for
Penrith at the weekend.

http://www.meto.gov.uk/weather/europ...s/penrith.html

I don't see any proof of this from other charts yet. Does anyone know of a
source to back this up.

I'd take that page with a large dose of salt:-) It looks like the usual
computer generated rubbish many of us have seen over the months. It may go
below 0C, but not that far.


But it does make me wonder about the reliability of all the other
machine products. As Martin Rowley pointed out in another thread a few
days ago the trend is to remove the human forecaster from the
forecasting process and provide machine products direct to the end user.

Norman.
--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St. Giles
Buckinghamshire

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0000, Mike Tullett wrote in


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:20:31 -0000, Calum wrote in


The met office website is showing minimum temperatures of -7 and -9 for
Penrith at the weekend.

http://www.meto.gov.uk/weather/europ...s/penrith.html

I don't see any proof of this from other charts yet. Does anyone know of a
source to back this up.

I'd take that page with a large dose of salt:-) It looks like the usual
computer generated rubbish many of us have seen over the months. It may go
below 0C, but not that far.

I've just checked the BBC site and it comes up with -1 and -2 for those two
days, more realistic figures IMHO. Yet, the source for those data are
surely the same - UKMO?

I agree with Norman too about other machine generated "products". From
talking to others, who look at such forecasts, I am often asked why there
are such big discrepancies and in all honesty I cannot give a sensible
answer. It is even difficult to say which is the most reliable source.
One would hope the MO site would be, but.....

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Mike Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 21/11/2003 13:06:13 UTC
My aurora images here http://www.mtullett.plus.com/29a-oct and
http://www.mtullett.plus.com/20-nov/

"Mike Tullett" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0000, Mike Tullett wrote in


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:20:31 -0000, Calum wrote in


The met office website is showing minimum temperatures of -7 and -9
for
Penrith at the weekend.

http://www.meto.gov.uk/weather/europ...s/penrith.html

I don't see any proof of this from other charts yet. Does anyone
know of a
source to back this up.

I'd take that page with a large dose of salt:-) It looks like the
usual
computer generated rubbish many of us have seen over the months. It
may go
below 0C, but not that far.

I've just checked the BBC site and it comes up with -1 and -2 for
those two
days, more realistic figures IMHO. Yet, the source for those data are
surely the same - UKMO?

I agree with Norman too about other machine generated "products".
From
talking to others, who look at such forecasts, I am often asked why
there
are such big discrepancies and in all honesty I cannot give a sensible
answer. It is even difficult to say which is the most reliable
source.
One would hope the MO site would be, but.....


.... we were always pointing out these problems - 'please write them down
and we'll look at them' etc. Not much seems to have changed. I simply
don't use these sites - and not just the Met O ones either - many of
these pretty-pretty forecast sites are not particularly good guidance.

Martin.

"Mike Tullett" wrote in message


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0000, Mike Tullett wrote in


snip

I agree with Norman too about other machine generated "products". From
talking to others, who look at such forecasts, I am often asked why there
are such big discrepancies and in all honesty I cannot give a sensible
answer. It is even difficult to say which is the most reliable source.
One would hope the MO site would be, but.....

Steps are being taken to remove the inconsistencies between the
two sites and improve the quality of the data. In the meantime go with
the figures on the BBC site.

Jon.




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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0000, Mike Tullett
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:20:31 -0000, Calum wrote in


The met office website is showing minimum temperatures of -7 and -9 for
Penrith at the weekend.


I'd take that page with a large dose of salt:-)

If it's -7 to -9 he's gonna need it.


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In article lgate.org,
Jon O Rourke writes
"Mike Tullett" wrote in message


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0000, Mike Tullett wrote in


snip

I agree with Norman too about other machine generated "products". From
talking to others, who look at such forecasts, I am often asked why there
are such big discrepancies and in all honesty I cannot give a sensible
answer. It is even difficult to say which is the most reliable source.
One would hope the MO site would be, but.....

Steps are being taken to remove the inconsistencies between the
two sites and improve the quality of the data. In the meantime go with
the figures on the BBC site.

Jon.

Hmmm...3 years ago "steps were being taken" to resolve these problems. I
won't hold my breath

Norman.
--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St. Giles
Buckinghamshire

neither will I. I complained about erroneous information on the BBC 5 day
forecast for Aboyne 3 years ago and got the run around that it was the met
offices fault who said it was the bbc's fault and on it went and f**k all
has been done about it since. They just refuse to accept that they can be
wrong, arrogant t**ts !
"Norman Lynagh" wrote in message
...
In article lgate.org,
Jon O Rourke writes
"Mike Tullett" wrote in message


On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0000, Mike Tullett wrote in


snip

I agree with Norman too about other machine generated "products". From
talking to others, who look at such forecasts, I am often asked why
there
are such big discrepancies and in all honesty I cannot give a sensible
answer. It is even difficult to say which is the most reliable source.
One would hope the MO site would be, but.....

Steps are being taken to remove the inconsistencies between the
two sites and improve the quality of the data. In the meantime go with
the figures on the BBC site.

Jon.

Hmmm...3 years ago "steps were being taken" to resolve these problems. I
won't hold my breath

Norman.
--
Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St. Giles
Buckinghamshire

Ho Ho Ho !
"Paul C" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:00:32 +0000, Mike Tullett
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:20:31 -0000, Calum wrote in


The met office website is showing minimum temperatures of -7 and -9 for
Penrith at the weekend.


I'd take that page with a large dose of salt:-)

If it's -7 to -9 he's gonna need it.


--
Paul