Just back from 36 hours in mild snowless Lymington :-(

Obviously a dusting of snow here in Haytor earlier today as moor frozen solid
and still some blown snow on top of Hay Tor and icy bits in my garden.

Ah well loads more snow to come as we get towards New Year vbg

Will.
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Ah, could you enlighten us on that last comment Will :-)

And as it is Christmas day on Thursday (in case anyone didn't know
g), will you be posting your forecast earlier this week or not at
all?

I'm curious to your thoughts of Joe *******i's European column? I find
his writing quite interesting, albeit sometimes a bit sensational, but
his theories, do you find them valid?

Keith (Southend)

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:11:06 -0000, "Will"
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Ah well loads more snow to come as we get towards New Year vbg

Will.

"Will" wrote in message
...
Just back from 36 hours in mild snowless Lymington :-(

Obviously a dusting of snow here in Haytor earlier today as moor frozen
solid
and still some blown snow on top of Hay Tor and icy bits in my garden.

Ah well loads more snow to come as we get towards New Year vbg

Will.

Snowless & frostless in Penzance as normal.

Minimum temperature last night was +4.1 degrees.

In fact in the last 4 years (commencing 2000) we have only had 23 air
frosts, of which 12 occured when it was virtually calm. Any sort of real
wind and the warming affect of the sea is normally just too great, unless
the wind is a North-easterly running down the spine of the peninsula. Of the
11 air frosts which occured when it was fairly windy, 6 occured when the
wind was E or NE.

I'm not a cold weather person, but it would be nice to see a bit of snow
rather more frwquently than twice a decade.


Graham
Penzance

Penzance Weather www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/weather.html
Telephone (01736) 351879

At least you get thunderstorms in summer Graham. But yes Penzance has an
extremely mild winter climate.

Actually my min in this cold snap was -1.3 deg C, so hardly cold and I still
have a lemon tree outside and fuschias still out in flower !

Very light fine snow again this evening. Temp +1 deg C.

Cheers,

Will.
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Graham Easterling wrote in message ...


"Will" wrote in message
...
Just back from 36 hours in mild snowless Lymington :-(

Obviously a dusting of snow here in Haytor earlier today as moor frozen
solid
and still some blown snow on top of Hay Tor and icy bits in my garden.

Ah well loads more snow to come as we get towards New Year vbg

Will.

Snowless & frostless in Penzance as normal.

Minimum temperature last night was +4.1 degrees.

In fact in the last 4 years (commencing 2000) we have only had 23 air
frosts, of which 12 occured when it was virtually calm. Any sort of real
wind and the warming affect of the sea is normally just too great, unless
the wind is a North-easterly running down the spine of the peninsula. Of the
11 air frosts which occured when it was fairly windy, 6 occured when the
wind was E or NE.

I'm not a cold weather person, but it would be nice to see a bit of snow
rather more frwquently than twice a decade.


Graham
Penzance

Penzance Weather www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/weather.html
Telephone (01736) 351879

Hi Keith,

I've thought about that. If I'm sober and not weighed down too much by food I'll
do my forecast on Xmas Day evening, otherwise it will be Boxing Day.

I'm serious about more snow late next weekend into next week (as per my last
trend forecast). The longwave pattern looks like retrogressing and the next
trough extension will henceforth be further west, putting us well and truly in
the cold air trough, which means it will last longer. Ensembles are now trending
that way and getting increasing support from the main deterministic models.

As for Joe, I respect his undoubtded knowledge of the global circulation and
atmospheric dynamics. I'm not a fan of his column, purely because of the way it
is written, but I can understand where he is coming from and his thoughts are
very soundly based IMO.

Cheers,

Will.
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Keith (Southend) wrote in message ...
Ah, could you enlighten us on that last comment Will :-)

And as it is Christmas day on Thursday (in case anyone didn't know
g), will you be posting your forecast earlier this week or not at
all?

I'm curious to your thoughts of Joe *******i's European column? I find
his writing quite interesting, albeit sometimes a bit sensational, but
his theories, do you find them valid?

Keith (Southend)

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:11:06 -0000, "Will"
wrote:


Ah well loads more snow to come as we get towards New Year vbg

Will.

"Will" wrote in message
...
Hi Keith,

I've thought about that. If I'm sober and not weighed down too much by
food I'll
do my forecast on Xmas Day evening, otherwise it will be Boxing Day.

I'm serious about more snow late next weekend into next week (as per my
last
trend forecast). The longwave pattern looks like retrogressing and the
next
trough extension will henceforth be further west, putting us well and
truly in
the cold air trough, which means it will last longer. Ensembles are now
trending
that way and getting increasing support from the main deterministic
models.

snip

You're sticking your neck out there but I, obviously, hope your're right.

Victor

Snowless & frostless in Penzance as normal.

Minimum temperature last night was +4.1 degrees.

In fact in the last 4 years (commencing 2000) we have only had 23 air
frosts, of which 12 occured when it was virtually calm. Any sort of real
wind and the warming affect of the sea is normally just too great, unless
the wind is a North-easterly running down the spine of the peninsula. Of
the
11 air frosts which occured when it was fairly windy, 6 occured when the
wind was E or NE.

I'm not a cold weather person, but it would be nice to see a bit of snow
rather more frwquently than twice a decade.


Graham
Penzance

Graham, how I sympathise with you. After so many years living in Cornwall,
the frustration gets the better of you. Rarely would the temp drop below 5c
with any sort of a wind, yet last night here, Northerly gales, 10cm+ of
level snow and drifting as well.
I've only lived here a couple of weeks and was worried that I would see less
snow here than the Pennines.
Move Graham, move!!! Maybe there's some sort of a hint in your surname.

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David Mitchell.
70 amsl. Langtoft. E. Yorks.

Thankyou Will for both your informative and honest reply. I will be
tuning in to your update when it appears.

What I like about Joe's column is he gives an indication of any change
or trend in the patterns, without saying it's going to snow in the
afternoon in London in three weeks time, anyone who say's that you
can't realy take seriously.

Merry Christmas to you :-)

Keith (Southend)

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:42:31 -0000, "Will"
wrote:

Hi Keith,

I've thought about that. If I'm sober and not weighed down too much by food I'll
do my forecast on Xmas Day evening, otherwise it will be Boxing Day.

I'm serious about more snow late next weekend into next week (as per my last
trend forecast). The longwave pattern looks like retrogressing and the next
trough extension will henceforth be further west, putting us well and truly in
the cold air trough, which means it will last longer. Ensembles are now trending
that way and getting increasing support from the main deterministic models.

As for Joe, I respect his undoubtded knowledge of the global circulation and
atmospheric dynamics. I'm not a fan of his column, purely because of the way it
is written, but I can understand where he is coming from and his thoughts are
very soundly based IMO.

Cheers,

Will.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:42:31 -0000, "Will"
wrote:

I'm serious about more snow late next weekend into next week (as per my last
trend forecast). The longwave pattern looks like retrogressing and the next
trough extension will henceforth be further west, putting us well and truly in
the cold air trough,

For a moment there Will, I thought I had accidentally clicked thru
to accuweather/*******i... until you spelled "trof" wrong!

I quite like reading his articles, now I'm used to his nerve jangling
use of the English language!

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Dave

Looking at the satellite pictures around the globe, there seems to be
a different look of things this year. The Indian Ocean is now
particularily quiet, whereas Australia now in it's third day of the
effects of Cyclone Debbie looks decidely unsettled, infact many parts
of Aus have had a mixed bag of weather with plenty of rain. North
America seems to be falling into a pattern with High pressure over the
Rockies forcing low pressure over eastern Canada and a succession of
northerly plunges. Not seen things looking quite like this in the
short time that I have had access to all this data and graphics.

Keith (Southend)

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"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message . ..
Thankyou Will for both your informative and honest reply. I will be
tuning in to your update when it appears.

What I like about Joe's column is he gives an indication of any change
or trend in the patterns, without saying it's going to snow in the
afternoon in London in three weeks time, anyone who say's that you
can't realy take seriously.

Merry Christmas to you :-)

Keith (Southend)

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