"Dave.C" wrote in message
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Outlook said snow possible next week! About as generalised as some stuff
we
get here. Can't easily see what that's based on at the moment other than
most models showing two or three colder days at the end of next week.
Still
too far off to deserve a mention in my opinion.

Dave
(Mind you, isn't snow always "possible" next week in January!)


You've beaten me to it Dave. I saw the same forecast and that made me
think of 1984 given the type of pattern that we now have. We had masses of
snow in mid Jan 1984 after a long series of westerly gales.

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"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
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"Dave.C" wrote in message
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Outlook said snow possible next week! About as generalised as some stuff
we
get here. Can't easily see what that's based on at the moment other than
most models showing two or three colder days at the end of next week.
Still
too far off to deserve a mention in my opinion.

Dave
(Mind you, isn't snow always "possible" next week in January!)


You've beaten me to it Dave. I saw the same forecast and that made me
think of 1984 given the type of pattern that we now have. We had masses of
snow in mid Jan 1984 after a long series of westerly gales.


But wasn't that one a rare case of we *did* get what the (Northern) US and
Canada had as very cold air from those regions came across as a rough cold
westerly.

See the SL hPa map and 850 hPa temp sequences on:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsreaeur.html

for the later part of Jan 1984 when at its coldest. Being a westerly, there
was nothing in the South, at least on the coast but IIRC, it was bad in
Scotland and Northern England.

IIRC, early Jan 1991 was similar.

No doubt these occasional and rare occurrences lead to the general public
perception that it always happens.

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In article ,
Gavin Staples writes:
You've beaten me to it Dave. I saw the same forecast and that made me
think of 1984 given the type of pattern that we now have. We had masses of
snow in mid Jan 1984 after a long series of westerly gales.

Are you sure that you aren't thinking of 1985? (Though, looking at
Weather Log, I see that Jan 84 did have quite a bit of snow in nortern
areas, though not in the south.)
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John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)

"John Hall" wrote in message
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Are you sure that you aren't thinking of 1985? (Though, looking at
Weather Log, I see that Jan 84 did have quite a bit of snow in nortern
areas, though not in the south.)

I certainly remember a fair bit of snow in Leeds in both January
1984 and 1985. Enough for my school to be closed

Col
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160m asl.
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In article ,
Col writes:

"John Hall" wrote in message
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Are you sure that you aren't thinking of 1985? (Though, looking at
Weather Log, I see that Jan 84 did have quite a bit of snow in nortern
areas, though not in the south.)

I certainly remember a fair bit of snow in Leeds in both January
1984 and 1985. Enough for my school to be closed

Even in the soft South, we were made of tougher stuff back in the 1960s.
My Surrey school was never closed even during 1962-3, though it's only
fair to point out that the heaviest snow mostly came during the
Christmas holidays.

There was one day in early March, 1966 when, following heavy overnight
snow, I was unable to get to school (which was 8 miles from my home),
but I believe that the school was open.
--
John Hall
"I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
will hardly mind anything else."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)

"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
Col writes:

"John Hall" wrote in message
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Are you sure that you aren't thinking of 1985? (Though, looking at
Weather Log, I see that Jan 84 did have quite a bit of snow in nortern
areas, though not in the south.)

I certainly remember a fair bit of snow in Leeds in both January
1984 and 1985. Enough for my school to be closed

Even in the soft South, we were made of tougher stuff back in the 1960s.
My Surrey school was never closed even during 1962-3, though it's only
fair to point out that the heaviest snow mostly came during the
Christmas holidays.


And my school never closed in the winter of 78/79. :-(

Victor

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:07:50 +0000, John Hall
wrote:

My Surrey school was never closed even during 1962-3,

My Surrey school was never closed in 1947.

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"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
Col writes:

"John Hall" wrote in message
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Are you sure that you aren't thinking of 1985? (Though, looking at
Weather Log, I see that Jan 84 did have quite a bit of snow in nortern
areas, though not in the south.)

I certainly remember a fair bit of snow in Leeds in both January
1984 and 1985. Enough for my school to be closed

Even in the soft South, we were made of tougher stuff back in the 1960s.
My Surrey school was never closed even during 1962-3, though it's only
fair to point out that the heaviest snow mostly came during the
Christmas holidays.

To be fair my school was at about 550ft, not far from the highest
point in Leeds. It wasn't so much that the kids couldn't get there
but the teachers who had to drive there. It could be a pretty bleak
place all told, even in summer. Certainly in the early 80's I could
count on at least one day a year when we were snowed off. I still
remember listening to local radio for the reports of school closures
and hoping my school would be amoung them, happy days

Col
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Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk

"John Hall" wrote in message
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There was one day in early March, 1966 when, following heavy overnight
snow, I was unable to get to school (which was 8 miles from my home),
but I believe that the school was open.
--
I hate to correct you, John, but I think you mean 1965 (4th March, just
like five years later).

Likewise, we never missed a day at Luton Grammar School in 1962-63,
although the thermometer in music room, a rooftop addendum and
therefore subject to dodgy radiators, showed just 37ºF in the freezing
fog of Jan 23/24, and we sat there wrapped up in coats, gloves and
scarves singing hymns. These days, of course, Health and Safety
wouldn't allow it ... not to mention the teachers' unions.

Philip Eden

In 1963, we (secondary school) didn't miss a day either, but that was
only because all the toilets were indoors. At the primary school that I
had attended, it was shut for several days because after the Christmas
shut-down, all the toilets (mainly outside) were iced up!

Martin.