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All, this is a very serious post.

Just had a look at all the available information this morning and it seems to me
that the UK is *potentially* in for quite a severe spell of weather this coming
week with the possibility of loss of life, damage to property and some
disruption.

The low on Monday will give heavy rain in England and Wales and could cause
flooding. Track is important for associated gales, but a track slightly further
north than the Met Office expects could bring severe gales or storm force winds
to larger areas of southern England. Atrocious conditions are likely in the
Channel anyway with a high swell and severe gales or storms. Another low on
Tuesday could be just as nasty with a short spell of very strong winds and even
some snow over high ground, particularly in the north.

As things turn colder after Wednesday there is a significant risk of heavy
snowfall, possibly blocking roads and causing disruption. High ground and
northern areas obviously most at risk but low lying southern Britain not immune.

This is a bad time of year to have such a strong jet so far south and "aiming"
at the UK - that is the reason for this post.

Please keep an eye on Met Office TV and radio forecasts for warnings for your
region.

Take care,

Will.
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Thanks for that update Will.

The following cold spell doesn't look quite so bad this morning, and
probably more shortlived than it appeared yesterday, would you agree
with this?

Keith (Southend)

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All, this is a very serious post.

Just had a look at all the available information this morning and it seems to me
that the UK is *potentially* in for quite a severe spell of weather this coming
week with the possibility of loss of life, damage to property and some
disruption.

The low on Monday will give heavy rain in England and Wales and could cause
flooding. Track is important for associated gales, but a track slightly further
north than the Met Office expects could bring severe gales or storm force winds
to larger areas of southern England. Atrocious conditions are likely in the
Channel anyway with a high swell and severe gales or storms. Another low on
Tuesday could be just as nasty with a short spell of very strong winds and even
some snow over high ground, particularly in the north.

As things turn colder after Wednesday there is a significant risk of heavy
snowfall, possibly blocking roads and causing disruption. High ground and
northern areas obviously most at risk but low lying southern Britain not immune.

This is a bad time of year to have such a strong jet so far south and "aiming"
at the UK - that is the reason for this post.

Please keep an eye on Met Office TV and radio forecasts for warnings for your
region.

Take care,

Will.


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Hi Keith, honestly I'm really not sure. I still cannot do better than the trend
I issued on thursday.

I would suggest this week's weather is going to be more than enough for all of
us !

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Keith (Southend) wrote in message ...
Thanks for that update Will.

The following cold spell doesn't look quite so bad this morning, and
probably more shortlived than it appeared yesterday, would you agree
with this?

Keith (Southend)

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:04:41 -0000, "Will"
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All, this is a very serious post.

Just had a look at all the available information this morning and it seems to

me
that the UK is *potentially* in for quite a severe spell of weather this

coming
week with the possibility of loss of life, damage to property and some
disruption.

The low on Monday will give heavy rain in England and Wales and could cause
flooding. Track is important for associated gales, but a track slightly

further
north than the Met Office expects could bring severe gales or storm force

winds
to larger areas of southern England. Atrocious conditions are likely in the
Channel anyway with a high swell and severe gales or storms. Another low on
Tuesday could be just as nasty with a short spell of very strong winds and

even
some snow over high ground, particularly in the north.

As things turn colder after Wednesday there is a significant risk of heavy
snowfall, possibly blocking roads and causing disruption. High ground and
northern areas obviously most at risk but low lying southern Britain not

immune.

This is a bad time of year to have such a strong jet so far south and "aiming"
at the UK - that is the reason for this post.

Please keep an eye on Met Office TV and radio forecasts for warnings for your
region.

Take care,

Will.




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Hi Keith, honestly I'm really not sure. I still cannot do better than

the trend
I issued on thursday.


.... this is the key: the situation is highly volatile - a small change
one way or the other will be the key: the models nowadays are *superb*
but they can't do the whole job. The best that can be done is to outline
the possibilities and prepare for what might happen.

Martin.


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In message , Martin Rowley
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"Will" wrote in message
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Hi Keith, honestly I'm really not sure. I still cannot do better than

the trend
I issued on thursday.


... this is the key: the situation is highly volatile - a small change
one way or the other will be the key: the models nowadays are *superb*
but they can't do the whole job. The best that can be done is to outline
the possibilities and prepare for what might happen.

Martin.


It's a fascinating conundrum. The models handle the broadscale well in
these situations but the detail much less well. As ever, it's the detail
that really matters.

The 06z run of the GFS is predicting nothing stronger than a mean speed
of 20 knots for this location on Monday. We shall see

Norman.
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"Norman Lynagh" wrote in message
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|
| Martin.
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| It's a fascinating conundrum. The models handle the broadscale well in
| these situations but the detail much less well. As ever, it's the detail
| that really matters.
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| The 06z run of the GFS is predicting nothing stronger than a mean speed
| of 20 knots for this location on Monday. We shall see
|
| Norman.
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Hi Norman,

The ECM has certainly put the spanner in the works -

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm721.gif

Joe


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I dont know what to believe at the moment , nobody knows just how bad this
low will be
if its bad at all the gfs runs are trying to kill off the cold spell again
with just a day affair.

hard to tell whats going to happen


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Until or unless a controlling High takes over (from whatever direction) and
the hole in the atmosphere near Iceland or Southern Greenland starts to
fill,any cold spell will be short lived ,and the Atlantic will rule as ever
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Very unscientific I know ,but just watch it.....

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I dont know what to believe at the moment , nobody knows just how bad this
low will be
if its bad at all the gfs runs are trying to kill off the cold spell again
with just a day affair.

hard to tell whats going to happen




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The low will miss us to the South, and the cold air.. well, will miss us, or
won't be very cold at all . This is the bloody UK afterall !


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"danny" wrote in message
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The low will miss us to the South, and the cold air.. well, will miss us


but I guess you'll miss it more than it will miss you :-)




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