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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-bse081204.php

British scientists viewed controversies as events, caused by
pre-existing dissenters within the community. The Swedish scientists
tended to think of controversies as a process, and of fully-fledged
'mavericks' as the dangerous result of a gradual positioning of
disenchanted scientists who ended up attacking a community to which they
no longer belonged.

British scientists felt it was crucial to avoid giving scientific
legitimacy to scientists that they described as 'mavericks' and that
their distancing from the scientific community was therefore necessary.
Swedish scientists thought that ousting of dissenting scientists only
served to exacerbate problems.

With the exception of university research, mechanisms for control of
outgoing material tended to be more elaborate and more strictly followed
in Britain, than in Sweden. British scientists also felt that a breach
of procedures would have graver consequences, than did their Swedish
peers.

British scientists viewed surveying of outgoing material and
communication of research as safety mechanisms in place for their own
protection, whereas Swedish interviewees to perceive such procedures as
a sign of increasing bureaucracy. British scientists felt a greater need
for claims to be 'watertight', imagining a potentially hostile response.

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It's a lot worse in the USA if the following link is anything to go by:

http://www.xasa.com/grupos/en/sci/ar...eo.earthquakes


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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is
proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance
That principle is contempt prior to investigation."

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:37:14 +0000 (UTC), in sci.geo.earthquakes, "Michael
Mcneil" wrote:

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is
proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance
That principle is contempt prior to investigation."

-HerbertSpencer



Which has nothing what-so-ever with you, bible-boi.




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Which has nothing what-so-ever with you, bible-boi.


Quite so. I rather believe he was deriding the scholars of his day about
their capacity to deal with the theory of evolution.

The answer of course in the absence of scientific control is to suck it
and see. My methods work despite not having an explanation. Whilst
evolution is palpably lacking in day to day evidence what with the
unsurvival of not just species but genus these days; and the
international placement of its practioners in gaols.

(Of course not believing in evolution I don't see thieves and murderers
as heros of a modern myth.)


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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:53:38 +0000 (UTC), in sci.geo.earthquakes, "Michael
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Which has nothing what-so-ever with you, bible-boi.


Quite so. I rather believe he was deriding the scholars of his day about
their capacity to deal with the theory of evolution.

The answer of course in the absence of scientific control is to suck it
and see. My methods work despite not having an explanation.


Not that you have shown to anyone. Your methods at balderdash... Utter
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Not that you have shown to anyone. Your methods at balderdash... Utter
nonsense.


You mean there were no fireworks in July and the rainfall world wide in
August was not unusual?

OO OOk OOKAY.


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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
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Not that you have shown to anyone. Your methods at balderdash... Utter
nonsense.


You mean there were no fireworks in July and the rainfall world wide in
August was not unusual?


Apart from the 4th July Fireworks? Not really
And the worldwide rainfall wasn't outside of the normal parameters.

HTH


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Please McNeil, do not be concerned about the most unjust criticisms
levelled at you. You have a very acute mind, and your understanding of the
direct relation between weather and all other Earth phenomena's is quite
correct ! .. and quite in line indeed with a True Geology approach, indeed !

.... in a article of the past _ which I cannot retrieve _ someone was even
pointing out to specific type of clouds anticipating E-Quakes !

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The Great Sandy Desert.of Australia
Discoverer of the South Atlantic Submarine Gold Placers
( 40 Millions Tons estimate )
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Not that you have shown to anyone. Your methods at balderdash... Utter
nonsense.


You mean there were no fireworks in July and the rainfall world wide in
August was not unusual?


Apart from the 4th July Fireworks? Not really
And the worldwide rainfall wasn't outside of the normal parameters.

HTH




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"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" wrote in message


One has to judge the people who can stick their heads up their backsides
by the size of their heads not the scope of their ignorance. Imagine
living in the Antipodes and being ignorant of the hurricanes and
"pestillences" that struck there twice in one year, THIS year, depite
holding some sort of an interest in geophysics....

... in a article of the past _ which I cannot retrieve _ someone was even
pointing out to specific type of clouds anticipating E-Quakes !


I think that set of threads will have been munged by a virus that hit
the major web servers around mid May last year. Try "Lantern" clouds.
Not that I followed it that closely.

Anyone here see this week's Terry Jones series about Medieval sciences?

Interesting stuff, I missed the first part -for the second time running.


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"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
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"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" wrote in message


One has to judge the people who can stick their heads up their backsides
by the size of their heads not the scope of their ignorance. Imagine
living in the Antipodes and being ignorant of the hurricanes and
"pestillences" that struck there twice in one year, THIS year, depite
holding some sort of an interest in geophysics....


My goodness!! We had 2 Hurricanes that struck us in a year.. Impossible.
Australia doesn't get Hurricanes.

However, it's quite common to get several cyclones in a season.

As for pestilences? Again, locust "plagues" are common.

Pleae learn some geography before you post again.







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