I don't understand all this talk of an Indian summer for September. It
is still summer! At least till the autumnal equinox anyway.

What gives?

Steve

Meterological autumn starts September 1st, Steve.

Wijke
The Netherlands
Finally raising temps en pressure -- and maybe the raingauge will stay empty
for a while :-)


"Steve Jones" schreef in bericht
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I don't understand all this talk of an Indian summer for September. It
is still summer! At least till the autumnal equinox anyway.

What gives?

Steve

In article ,
Steve Jones writes:
I don't understand all this talk of an Indian summer for September. It
is still summer! At least till the autumnal equinox anyway.

What gives?

I don't think that this question is included in the newsgroup FAQ, but
the number of times it comes up perhaps it should be. As far as
meteorologists and climatologists are concerned, summer comprises the
months of June, July and August. Not only is it more convenient to have
seasons comprising complete months, but also the weather in June is
typically more summer-like than spring-like while in September it tends
to be more autumnal than summery.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

This is how I've always thought of the seasons

Winter - December, January, February
Spring - March, April, May
Summer - June, July, August
Autumn - September, October, November

Sometimes the periods can overlap but for me it generally holds quite well

PKH

I remember a quote from Francis Wilson when asked a similar question and he
said that the seasons (going by the plants, trees & animals response to
them) could be regarded in the southern half of England as:

Mid- November to Mid-February (Winter)
Mid-February to Mid-May (Spring)
Mid-May to Mid-September (Summer)
Mid-September to Mid-November (Autumn)

To me this makes more sense as it takes into account the natural cycle of
life throughout the year but is rather awkward for weather recording.

In the northern half of Britain he said that the standard seasonal months
mentioned in previous postings were more accurate.
______________________________
Nick

Worcester
45 AMSL
"John Hall" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Steve Jones writes:
I don't understand all this talk of an Indian summer for September. It
is still summer! At least till the autumnal equinox anyway.

What gives?

I don't think that this question is included in the newsgroup FAQ, but
the number of times it comes up perhaps it should be. As far as
meteorologists and climatologists are concerned, summer comprises the
months of June, July and August. Not only is it more convenient to have
seasons comprising complete months, but also the weather in June is
typically more summer-like than spring-like while in September it tends
to be more autumnal than summery.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into
steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then
resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning
Place"

The equinox is (theoretically) the middle of the thing, not the beginning.

Gianna


"Steve Jones" wrote in message
...
I don't understand all this talk of an Indian summer for September. It
is still summer! At least till the autumnal equinox anyway.

What gives?

Steve

"John Hall" wrote in message
...
In article ,

I don't think that this question is included in the newsgroup FAQ, but
the number of times it comes up perhaps it should be. As far as
meteorologists and climatologists are concerned, summer comprises the
months of June, July and August.

.... I'll mull it over. As you point out, those are the climatological
accounting periods, though there are others, for example the periods
used to relate average temperatures to the 'cold', 'cool', 'warm', 'hot'
tags etc., which don't follow this scheme.

If I do put something in, it will probably be in the Glossary rather
than the FAQ.

Martin.


--
FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:-
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm

"Steve Jones" wrote in message
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I don't understand all this talk of an Indian summer for September. It
is still summer! At least till the autumnal equinox anyway.


Traditionally, an Indian summer was in October anyway.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
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"Col" schreef in bericht
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"Steve Jones" wrote in message
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I don't understand all this talk of an Indian summer for September.
It
is still summer! At least till the autumnal equinox anyway.


Traditionally, an Indian summer was in October anyway.

Col

Searching Google:

Some URL's pertaining to Indian Summer:
www.criacc.qc.ca/climat/suivi/indien_e.html
ww.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/?page=stories/i-summer
http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20031029.html
http://www.island.net.com/~see/weath...dsumquotes.htm
www.wnrmag.com/stories/1999/oct99/insummer.htm

Sytze Stel

"Sytze Stel" schreef in bericht
ll.nl...

"Col" schreef in bericht
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"Steve Jones" wrote in message
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I don't understand all this talk of an Indian summer for
September.
It
is still summer! At least till the autumnal equinox anyway.


Traditionally, an Indian summer was in October anyway.

Col

Searching Google:

Some URL's pertaining to Indian Summer:
www.criacc.qc.ca/climat/suivi/indien_e.html
ww.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/?page=stories/i-summer
http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20031029.html
http://www.island.net.com/~see/weath...dsumquotes.htm
www.wnrmag.com/stories/1999/oct99/insummer.htm

Sytze Stel



Sorry, 2nd URL should be:
www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/?page=stories/i-summer

Sytze