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In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......



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I wonder what the were cooking for green smoke



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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......



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http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
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"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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I wonder what the were cooking for green smoke



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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......



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http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this

the
leader strike?



IMHO it is a fake. I base this on close inspection in photoshop. There is no
sign of any refelection in the right place, but I could be wrong and it
could be a leader.
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I wonder what the were cooking for green smoke
"john the fletch" wrote in message
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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......
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http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this

the
leader strike?



IMHO it is a fake. I base this on close inspection in photoshop. There is no
sign of any refelection in the right place, but I could be wrong and it
could be a leader.
Steve


Strange, I can see the reflection of the leader just fine, it appears
not to go straight up (relatively) but to be tilted away from the viewer
making the reflection appear shorter. Makes sense since the main strike
hit behind the hill.
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In message , Steve -
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"Stephen Sumner, YachtingUniverse.com" wrote in message
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I wonder what the were cooking for green smoke
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it could be smoke rising from a Barbeque on that little island......
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http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this

the
leader strike?



IMHO it is a fake. I base this on close inspection in photoshop. There is

no
sign of any refelection in the right place, but I could be wrong and it
could be a leader.
Steve


Strange, I can see the reflection of the leader just fine, it appears
not to go straight up (relatively) but to be tilted away from the viewer
making the reflection appear shorter. Makes sense since the main strike
hit behind the hill.
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Chris


I agree there is a refelection, but i still feel it is in the wrong place.

I have software that will create lightning on an image and it looks prity
convincing when its done. It is the colour and position that makes me
unsure. Leaders are also more white in images I have seen and taken.
The green is also default setting in one of the most comon lightning
producting filters that you can use with PSP or PS. The leader stands out
far too much though, they are never that bright.

I am also wondering if its a refelection in the camera caused buy the filter
elements as the main strike in the image as it is very bright.

To be honist and fair if it was not for the suspect leader the image is a
very good shot.

I stick with my gut feeling... fake.
Steve


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That's either an artefact, fake or somebody's got the upward leader. IMHO
it's a bit bright, I thought they were fainter than that??

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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:18:06 +0100, "Stephen Sumner,
YachtingUniverse.com" wrote:

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
leader strike?


If it's not an photographic artefact or a fake, it is likely to be the
ground stroke, the one that is induced at the ground and goes up to
meet the stepped leader.

Martin
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:43:05 +0100, JPG inspired by Deep
Thought wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:18:06 +0100, "Stephen Sumner,
YachtingUniverse.com" wrote:

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe...0lightning.jpg

In the picture you can see a small green bolt of lightning, is this the
leader strike?


If it's not an photographic artefact or a fake, it is likely to be the
ground stroke, the one that is induced at the ground and goes up to
meet the stepped leader.


....but this one never made the connection! I tend to agree with Martin on this
one: if it's not a fake it's one of several "streamers" that went up from the
ground as the pool of electrons from the exploratory downward leader neared the
ground.

I have a picture somewhere which shows several streamers going up from treetops
& chimneys etc but only one made the connection. If I can find it, I'll post it
to alt.binaries.weather.

Nigel

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