TudorHgh wrote:
- bring
on the Snow and Ice - I won't need to go out until March...


What happens in March, then? My social life continues throughout the
year and were I not retired I'd need to get to work like anybody else. Snow
and ice are the last thing you need, given the current traffic density.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Ah, the power of the modem and remote working

--
Chris
www.ivy-house.net
Swaffham, Norfolk

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:52:35 +0100 (BST), Dave Liquorice wrote in
ill.com

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:59:50 +0000, Succorso wrote:

I filled up a month ago. Oil is already 5p per litre more now than
it was then.

Go on tell me how much. I am sitting down with a large scotch handy...
Will need to order this winters 2000l later this week or early next
and I'm not looking foward to it.

Just received 1300 litres at £368 and back in 1999 the same amount was only
£186. Mind you it was paticularly cheap then.

--
Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 12/10/2004 14:20:25 UTC

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:08:14 +0100, Jonathan Stott
wrote:

keith.r.harris wrote:

The fact is, this country just couldn't cope with a sustained cold spell of
wintry weather. My advice is don't venture anywhere near thev M25 in such a
spell.

True. Two winters ago, Kent was effectively cut off by snow in the north
of the county. Both of the main roads (the M2 and the M20) were blocked
at the same time.


It's only London & the SE which seems to grind to a halt after a half
inch of snow.


--
Paul

It's only London & the SE which seems to grind to a halt after a half
inch of snow.


--
Paul



No just london and its surrounding areas
we didnt do to bad down here

To even contemplate a 'cold winter' nowadays is madness. It ain't gonna
happen...
But yes, I agree, imagine some of those cold winters we used to get down
south... some of these southern softies would collapse.
-------------------------------------------------------
"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
...
I know many of us on this ng like cold weather. However, lets be a bit
more
guarded on this one this year. Have any of you filled up your oil tank
yet?
It is quite scary. I would like a winter like 2002 this time round.
I think a cold winter is the last thing we want this year.


--

************************************************** **************************
********************************************
Gavin Staples.

Cambridge, UK.

www.gavinstaples.com
site regularly updated


"Inventories can be managed, but people must be led". H. Ross Perot. ~
US
Naval Commander and author.

All outgoing emails are checked for viruses by Norton Internet Security
Professional 2004.


************************************************** **************************
************************************************** **

Gavin do you really believe the weather gods are going to say
"that Gavin Staples wants a mild winter so we'll give hime one of the worse
ever experienced".
No that sort of reverse psychology won't work, they've cottoned on to that .





"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
...
I know many of us on this ng like cold weather. However, lets be a bit
more
guarded on this one this year. Have any of you filled up your oil tank
yet?
It is quite scary. I would like a winter like 2002 this time round.
I think a cold winter is the last thing we want this year.


--

************************************************** **************************
********************************************
Gavin Staples.

Cambridge, UK.

www.gavinstaples.com
site regularly updated


"Inventories can be managed, but people must be led". H. Ross Perot. ~
US
Naval Commander and author.

All outgoing emails are checked for viruses by Norton Internet Security
Professional 2004.


************************************************** **************************
************************************************** **




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10/09/2004

In uk.sci.weather on Tue, 12 Oct 2004 at 11:28:10, Gavin Staples wrote :
I know many of us on this ng like cold weather. However, lets be a bit more
guarded on this one this year. Have any of you filled up your oil tank yet?
It is quite scary. I would like a winter like 2002 this time round.
I think a cold winter is the last thing we want this year.

Given the high oil price, and the financial concerns that will cause,
sods law is likely to give one like 1962/3...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

It's only London & the SE which seems to grind to a halt after a half
inch of snow.

.....Well, 6 inches, actually.

Dave

Not at all Lawrence. I know what you mean, however, it is just that this
time, if it is really cold we are all set for all time record heating bills.
I wonder what sods law has to say about all that.



"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...
Gavin do you really believe the weather gods are going to say
"that Gavin Staples wants a mild winter so we'll give hime one of the
worse
ever experienced".
No that sort of reverse psychology won't work, they've cottoned on to that
..





"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
...
I know many of us on this ng like cold weather. However, lets be a bit
more
guarded on this one this year. Have any of you filled up your oil tank
yet?
It is quite scary. I would like a winter like 2002 this time round.
I think a cold winter is the last thing we want this year.


--


************************************************** **************************
********************************************
Gavin Staples.

Cambridge, UK.

www.gavinstaples.com
site regularly updated


"Inventories can be managed, but people must be led". H. Ross Perot. ~
US
Naval Commander and author.

All outgoing emails are checked for viruses by Norton Internet Security
Professional 2004.



************************************************** **************************
************************************************** **




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10/09/2004

"Mike Tullett" wrote
Go on tell me how much. I am sitting down with a large scotch handy...
Will need to order this winters 2000l later this week or early next
and I'm not looking foward to it.

Just received 1300 litres at £368 and back in 1999 the same amount was
only
£186. Mind you it was paticularly cheap then.

Good morning, Mike.



I hope you are well.



In noticing your e-mail to the ng a few minutes ago, I got to thinking
about my heating provision. I bought an unmodernised late-1960s house 2
years ago which had the original oil-fed, ducted air heating (it was all
the rage in 1967, I recall).



As part of the plan, I ripped that out and installed a gas-fired,
condensing, combination boiler which is listed as having a 91% efficiency
rating (fuel conversion into useable heat). Together with 250 mm
insulation in the loft (it hadn't got any in at all, before), cavity wall
insulation and the new "K" glass double glazing, I find that my winter
quarter gas bill is around £100. This is in fact more than my electricity
bill - and we cook with gas.



(I'm now wondering if my gas meter is faulty!)



I do appreciate that many homes still don't have mains gas but, from a
purely subjective point-of-view, I didn't quite believe the difference
those insulation measures I described above would have made to the feel of
the house. It was instantly turned from a rather damp and chilly place,
even in summer, and visitors don't believe that it's the same place,
sometimes. We'd had a more modern, well-insulated, house before we moved
here, with a thermalite inner leaf, plenty of loft insulation and dry
lining as standard, and we'd got used to just "blipping" the heating on
for a few minutes when we wanted a quick boost to the temperature but I'd
never thought that we could transform an older house in the way that we
did.



The Government is currently fiddling around with the issue of "thermal
comfort" in homes as part of its "Decent Homes Strategy" and I still can't
believe that they aren't pushing much harder for more insulation. It's
quick, clean, uncomplicated and relatively cheap and it certainly made all
the difference to my home. I appreciate that some homes (with solid
walls, for example) can't benefit from some of the measures I've mentioned
but I think that encouraging more insulation would be very cost-effective
and could result in a major reduction in our energy consumption, overall.
A reduction in/removal of VAT on insulation would be one big step, but
they could usefully expand the currently meagre grants system they have at
the moment. Grant schemes were fairly widespread in the early 80s, but I
would have thought there was a much more pressing need for them now.





- Tom.