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Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the
British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. - Tom. |
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The item you mention , Tom, is on page 205 of the book and the date of the
snowfall was 25 Feb 1933 when the snow was 6 ins deep at Durham and 30 ins deep in Teesdale at 800ft. It's quite rare , of course to find a low moving west in winter but I remember another occasion in December 1946 when a low moved west from Denmark which gave widespread snow but not on the scale of 1933. Peter Clarke Ewell 55m "Tom Bennett" wrote in message ... Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. - Tom. |
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The item you mention , Tom, is on page 205 of the book and the date of the
snowfall was 25 Feb 1933 when the snow was 6 ins deep at Durham and 30 ins deep in Teesdale at 800ft. It's quite rare , of course to find a low moving west in winter but I remember another occasion in December 1946 when a low moved west from Denmark which gave widespread snow but not on the scale of 1933. Peter Clarke Ewell 55m "Tom Bennett" wrote in message ... Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. - Tom. |
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The item you mention , Tom, is on page 205 of the book and the date of the
snowfall was 25 Feb 1933 when the snow was 6 ins deep at Durham and 30 ins deep in Teesdale at 800ft. It's quite rare , of course to find a low moving west in winter but I remember another occasion in December 1946 when a low moved west from Denmark which gave widespread snow but not on the scale of 1933. Peter Clarke Ewell 55m "Tom Bennett" wrote in message ... Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. - Tom. |
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The item you mention , Tom, is on page 205 of the book and the date of the
snowfall was 25 Feb 1933 when the snow was 6 ins deep at Durham and 30 ins deep in Teesdale at 800ft. It's quite rare , of course to find a low moving west in winter but I remember another occasion in December 1946 when a low moved west from Denmark which gave widespread snow but not on the scale of 1933. Peter Clarke Ewell 55m "Tom Bennett" wrote in message ... Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. - Tom. |
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Tom Bennett writes: Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. Looks like it could be Figure 60, on page 251 of my edition. The caption reads: "0700 hrs, 25 February, 1933. Very heavy orographic snowfall in NE and N England and in NE Ireland associated with a low which moved westwards; snow 6 inches deep at Durham but 30 inches deep in Teesdale at 800 ft." The chart shows the low centre over SW Ireland, with south-easterlies over most of England. Apart from the extreme SW, temperatures for the plotted stations are all between 32 and 37F (0-3C). Guessing at the locations of the plotted stations, Cambridge, Leeds, Bristol, Aberdeen, Holyhead, Belfast and Malin had snow; London, Portland and Liverpool had rain. At that time English east coast stations were dry, as were Glasgow and Plymouth. -- John Hall "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones |
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In article ,
Tom Bennett writes: Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. Looks like it could be Figure 60, on page 251 of my edition. The caption reads: "0700 hrs, 25 February, 1933. Very heavy orographic snowfall in NE and N England and in NE Ireland associated with a low which moved westwards; snow 6 inches deep at Durham but 30 inches deep in Teesdale at 800 ft." The chart shows the low centre over SW Ireland, with south-easterlies over most of England. Apart from the extreme SW, temperatures for the plotted stations are all between 32 and 37F (0-3C). Guessing at the locations of the plotted stations, Cambridge, Leeds, Bristol, Aberdeen, Holyhead, Belfast and Malin had snow; London, Portland and Liverpool had rain. At that time English east coast stations were dry, as were Glasgow and Plymouth. -- John Hall "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones |
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In article ,
Tom Bennett writes: Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. Looks like it could be Figure 60, on page 251 of my edition. The caption reads: "0700 hrs, 25 February, 1933. Very heavy orographic snowfall in NE and N England and in NE Ireland associated with a low which moved westwards; snow 6 inches deep at Durham but 30 inches deep in Teesdale at 800 ft." The chart shows the low centre over SW Ireland, with south-easterlies over most of England. Apart from the extreme SW, temperatures for the plotted stations are all between 32 and 37F (0-3C). Guessing at the locations of the plotted stations, Cambridge, Leeds, Bristol, Aberdeen, Holyhead, Belfast and Malin had snow; London, Portland and Liverpool had rain. At that time English east coast stations were dry, as were Glasgow and Plymouth. -- John Hall "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones |
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In article ,
Tom Bennett writes: Typically, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Manley ("Climate and the British Scene") just when I need it, but I do recall his description of a westward-moving February low, (1920s?) which put a fair bit of snow onto the eastern Pennines. I remember, as a teenager, looking longingly at the set-up (he included a pressure chart in the description) and wondering if and when it might occur again. I can't recall that happening but I think it must have done. I'll be interested to see how this one compares to previous incidents. And if anyone can flesh out that reference to Manley, I'd appreciate it. Looks like it could be Figure 60, on page 251 of my edition. The caption reads: "0700 hrs, 25 February, 1933. Very heavy orographic snowfall in NE and N England and in NE Ireland associated with a low which moved westwards; snow 6 inches deep at Durham but 30 inches deep in Teesdale at 800 ft." The chart shows the low centre over SW Ireland, with south-easterlies over most of England. Apart from the extreme SW, temperatures for the plotted stations are all between 32 and 37F (0-3C). Guessing at the locations of the plotted stations, Cambridge, Leeds, Bristol, Aberdeen, Holyhead, Belfast and Malin had snow; London, Portland and Liverpool had rain. At that time English east coast stations were dry, as were Glasgow and Plymouth. -- John Hall "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones |
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Peter
I'm so glad you put a date to the 1933 event. My father had great weather stories in his day and his memories of 'bad' snows included 1933. He used to tell the story of blizzards of very fine, powdered snow coming in through the key-hole of the family's front door. So much so that it built up on the INSIDE of the front door - the house being very cold inside anyway! His stories come from the midlands of Ireland and if this Low was the culprit then it must have travelled west beyond UK? Must look up the charts now. Regards, Joe "Peter Clarke" wrote in message ... The item you mention , Tom, is on page 205 of the book and the date of the snowfall was 25 Feb 1933 when the snow was 6 ins deep at Durham and 30 ins deep in Teesdale at 800ft. It's quite rare , of course to find a low moving west in winter but I remember another occasion in December 1946 when a low moved west from Denmark which gave widespread snow but not on the scale of 1933. Peter Clarke Ewell 55m |
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