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The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather.
If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of
the US?
Watching a local news channel in New York the presenter went in to great
detail about jet streams and radar images.
When you look at our professional websites they don't have half the tools
and images as they do. i.e. local radar, satellite etc. Even the newspapers
go into detail about it.
Is it me or do we just not care about the weather as much as we think we do?


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Gav wrote:
The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather.
If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of
the US?
Watching a local news channel in New York the presenter went in to great
detail about jet streams and radar images.
When you look at our professional websites they don't have half the tools
and images as they do. i.e. local radar, satellite etc. Even the newspapers
go into detail about it.
Is it me or do we just not care about the weather as much as we think we do?


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Don't be silly! Only Americans are intelligent enough to understand
scientific stuff like that - we Brits can only follow it in small words,
and only when preceded by some wholly inappropriate adjective, for
example "Mini tornado", "Sharp Showers" or "Murky Rain".

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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:20:25 -0000, "Gav" sat@home wrote:

The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather.
If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of
the US?
Watching a local news channel in New York the presenter went in to great
detail about jet streams and radar images.
When you look at our professional websites they don't have half the tools
and images as they do. i.e. local radar, satellite etc. Even the newspapers
go into detail about it.
Is it me or do we just not care about the weather as much as we think we do?


I think that's true. In my experience the Americans are far more
weather-obsessed than the British, despite the received wisdom. I am of the
opinion that the British are more likely to start a conversation with the
weather than the Americans are - probably due to the lesser variability (on the
whole) of American weather - not much to say about the summer weather in
Phoenix, for example - "Sunny and hot again I see", or New Orleans in July -
"bit humid again, guys"

I have never been to the Pacific Northwest of the US and I wonder if they are
more likely to use weather small-talk, having a similar climate to ours.

Martin


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Just watch an American TV weather forecast and almost all of them mention
dew points.

Can you imaging the BBC / UKMO discussing dew points in there forecast - I
think not - and is such basic stuff!

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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:20:25 -0000, "Gav" sat@home wrote:

The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather.
If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of
the US?
Watching a local news channel in New York the presenter went in to great
detail about jet streams and radar images.
When you look at our professional websites they don't have half the tools
and images as they do. i.e. local radar, satellite etc. Even the
newspapers
go into detail about it.
Is it me or do we just not care about the weather as much as we think we
do?


I think that's true. In my experience the Americans are far more
weather-obsessed than the British, despite the received wisdom. I am of
the
opinion that the British are more likely to start a conversation with the
weather than the Americans are - probably due to the lesser variability
(on the
whole) of American weather - not much to say about the summer weather in
Phoenix, for example - "Sunny and hot again I see", or New Orleans in
July -
"bit humid again, guys"

I have never been to the Pacific Northwest of the US and I wonder if they
are
more likely to use weather small-talk, having a similar climate to ours.

Martin


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Felly sgrifennodd Gav sat@home:
The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather.
If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of
the US?


It's what's called "dumbing down". They don't broadcast anything they think
the average person in the street (whose intelligence they probably
underestimate) won't understand.

What they fail to realise is that if they did broadcast such things, people
would come to understand them.

I think it's a lost cause, but I keep saying it: the BBC are supposed to
emeducate/em as well as entertain and inform.

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On 22 Nov 2004 18:09:24 -0000, (Adrian D. Shaw) wrote:


What they fail to realise is that if they did broadcast such things, people
would come to understand them.


That's how I see it too. Still, it helps the gub'ment to keep the
people uninformed as the people will then be more malleable.
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I think it's a lost cause, but I keep saying it: the BBC are supposed to
emeducate/em as well as entertain and inform.


I thought the BBC would change and become more mature when it got a new
Director general - I can't see anything at all different - still those
horrible trailers in between programmes.

Might as well privatise the lot.


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"David Haggas" wrote

I thought the BBC would change and become more mature when it got a new
Director general - I can't see anything at all different - still those
horrible trailers in between programmes.


Trailers (and fillers) are no longer always between programmes - they
often cut off the end of the previous one.

And why do we have to see over and over again those people in red
outfits doing that silly dance or those youths skateboarding over
obstacles? I doubt that anyone pays the slightest attention to these
fillers, so why not instead cut them out add twenty seconds to the
weather and tell us such things as dewpoints?. At least there would
be a small audience for dewpoints - a significant gain in viewing
numbers on those watching those weirdos. (Isn't what they do called
the Ho Chi Minh trail or something like that?)

Jack
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And why do we have to see over and over again those people in red
outfits doing that silly dance or those youths skateboarding over
obstacles? I doubt that anyone pays the slightest attention to these
fillers, so why not instead cut them out add twenty seconds to the
weather and tell us such things as dewpoints?. At least there would
be a small audience for dewpoints - a significant gain in viewing
numbers on those watching those weirdos. (Isn't what they do called
the Ho Chi Minh trail or something like that?)

Jack


I agree that these clips are used far too much and become tedious vary
rapidly. I do admire the skill shown by the skateboarders.

It seems to me that there are just too few people working in television who
have any scientific understanding and this is reflected in the progarmme
content (or lack of the same).

Radio 4 has some good stuff (e.g The Material World). Frontiers this week
(Wednesday 21:00 to 21:30) is all about atmospheric dust and its impact on
climate so it might well be worth a listen.

Alan


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"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message
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Radio 4 has some good stuff (e.g The Material World). Frontiers this
week (Wednesday 21:00 to 21:30) is all about atmospheric dust and its
impact on climate so it might well be worth a listen.


.... that was broadcast *last* week (17th), but can still be heard here
for 7 days:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/frontiers.shtml

it is worth listening to, though depending upon your background, not a
lot of 'new' stuff. It mainly outlines the difficulties we already know
on how atmospheric dust acts/reacts with the rest of the 'system'; lots
of doubts and uncertainties!

Martin.





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