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The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather.
If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of the US? Watching a local news channel in New York the presenter went in to great detail about jet streams and radar images. When you look at our professional websites they don't have half the tools and images as they do. i.e. local radar, satellite etc. Even the newspapers go into detail about it. Is it me or do we just not care about the weather as much as we think we do? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 19/11/2004 |
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Gav wrote:
The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather. If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of the US? Watching a local news channel in New York the presenter went in to great detail about jet streams and radar images. When you look at our professional websites they don't have half the tools and images as they do. i.e. local radar, satellite etc. Even the newspapers go into detail about it. Is it me or do we just not care about the weather as much as we think we do? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 19/11/2004 Don't be silly! Only Americans are intelligent enough to understand scientific stuff like that - we Brits can only follow it in small words, and only when preceded by some wholly inappropriate adjective, for example "Mini tornado", "Sharp Showers" or "Murky Rain". -- Chris www.ivy-house.net Swaffham, Norfolk |
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:20:25 -0000, "Gav" sat@home wrote:
The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather. If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of the US? Watching a local news channel in New York the presenter went in to great detail about jet streams and radar images. When you look at our professional websites they don't have half the tools and images as they do. i.e. local radar, satellite etc. Even the newspapers go into detail about it. Is it me or do we just not care about the weather as much as we think we do? I think that's true. In my experience the Americans are far more weather-obsessed than the British, despite the received wisdom. I am of the opinion that the British are more likely to start a conversation with the weather than the Americans are - probably due to the lesser variability (on the whole) of American weather - not much to say about the summer weather in Phoenix, for example - "Sunny and hot again I see", or New Orleans in July - "bit humid again, guys" I have never been to the Pacific Northwest of the US and I wonder if they are more likely to use weather small-talk, having a similar climate to ours. Martin --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 19/11/2004 |
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Just watch an American TV weather forecast and almost all of them mention
dew points. Can you imaging the BBC / UKMO discussing dew points in there forecast - I think not - and is such basic stuff! cheers Stuart Robinson "JPG" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:20:25 -0000, "Gav" sat@home wrote: The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather. If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of the US? Watching a local news channel in New York the presenter went in to great detail about jet streams and radar images. When you look at our professional websites they don't have half the tools and images as they do. i.e. local radar, satellite etc. Even the newspapers go into detail about it. Is it me or do we just not care about the weather as much as we think we do? I think that's true. In my experience the Americans are far more weather-obsessed than the British, despite the received wisdom. I am of the opinion that the British are more likely to start a conversation with the weather than the Americans are - probably due to the lesser variability (on the whole) of American weather - not much to say about the summer weather in Phoenix, for example - "Sunny and hot again I see", or New Orleans in July - "bit humid again, guys" I have never been to the Pacific Northwest of the US and I wonder if they are more likely to use weather small-talk, having a similar climate to ours. Martin --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 19/11/2004 |
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Felly sgrifennodd Gav sat@home:
The British public are said to be fascinated by the weather. If that is the case how come we don't have the media coverage like that of the US? It's what's called "dumbing down". They don't broadcast anything they think the average person in the street (whose intelligence they probably underestimate) won't understand. What they fail to realise is that if they did broadcast such things, people would come to understand them. I think it's a lost cause, but I keep saying it: the BBC are supposed to emeducate/em as well as entertain and inform. Adrian -- Adrian Shaw ais@ Adran Cyfrifiadureg, Prifysgol Cymru, aber. Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Cymru ac. http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais uk |
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![]() "Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message ... I think it's a lost cause, but I keep saying it: the BBC are supposed to emeducate/em as well as entertain and inform. I thought the BBC would change and become more mature when it got a new Director general - I can't see anything at all different - still those horrible trailers in between programmes. Might as well privatise the lot. |
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"David Haggas" wrote
I thought the BBC would change and become more mature when it got a new Director general - I can't see anything at all different - still those horrible trailers in between programmes. Trailers (and fillers) are no longer always between programmes - they often cut off the end of the previous one. And why do we have to see over and over again those people in red outfits doing that silly dance or those youths skateboarding over obstacles? I doubt that anyone pays the slightest attention to these fillers, so why not instead cut them out add twenty seconds to the weather and tell us such things as dewpoints?. At least there would be a small audience for dewpoints - a significant gain in viewing numbers on those watching those weirdos. (Isn't what they do called the Ho Chi Minh trail or something like that?) Jack |
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![]() "Jack Harrison" wrote in message m... And why do we have to see over and over again those people in red outfits doing that silly dance or those youths skateboarding over obstacles? I doubt that anyone pays the slightest attention to these fillers, so why not instead cut them out add twenty seconds to the weather and tell us such things as dewpoints?. At least there would be a small audience for dewpoints - a significant gain in viewing numbers on those watching those weirdos. (Isn't what they do called the Ho Chi Minh trail or something like that?) Jack I agree that these clips are used far too much and become tedious vary rapidly. I do admire the skill shown by the skateboarders. It seems to me that there are just too few people working in television who have any scientific understanding and this is reflected in the progarmme content (or lack of the same). Radio 4 has some good stuff (e.g The Material World). Frontiers this week (Wednesday 21:00 to 21:30) is all about atmospheric dust and its impact on climate so it might well be worth a listen. Alan |
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![]() "Alan Gardiner" wrote in message ... Radio 4 has some good stuff (e.g The Material World). Frontiers this week (Wednesday 21:00 to 21:30) is all about atmospheric dust and its impact on climate so it might well be worth a listen. .... that was broadcast *last* week (17th), but can still be heard here for 7 days:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/frontiers.shtml it is worth listening to, though depending upon your background, not a lot of 'new' stuff. It mainly outlines the difficulties we already know on how atmospheric dust acts/reacts with the rest of the 'system'; lots of doubts and uncertainties! Martin. |
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