uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) (uk.sci.weather) For the discussion of daily weather events, chiefly affecting the UK and adjacent parts of Europe, both past and predicted. The discussion is open to all, but contributions on a practical scientific level are encouraged.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:12 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Mar 2005
Posts: 1
Default Snowflakes?

This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and not
ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is it
that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just freezing to
be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on here
would know the answer.

A bear of very little brain,

Sniper8052

Originally posted to UK rec Cycling who were highly informative but
convinced you lads and lasses would love to get technical.



  #2   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:23 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Jul 2003
Posts: 129
Default Snowflakes?


"Sniper8052(L96A1)" wrote in message
. uk...
This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and
not ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is
it that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just
freezing to be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on
here would know the answer.

I'm sure someone will but drop in on
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
anyway.

Tom


  #3   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:23 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Jul 2003
Posts: 129
Default Snowflakes?


"Sniper8052(L96A1)" wrote in message
. uk...
This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and
not ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is
it that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just
freezing to be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on
here would know the answer.

I'm sure someone will but drop in on
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
anyway.

Tom


  #4   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:23 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Jul 2003
Posts: 129
Default Snowflakes?


"Sniper8052(L96A1)" wrote in message
. uk...
This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and
not ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is
it that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just
freezing to be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on
here would know the answer.

I'm sure someone will but drop in on
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
anyway.

Tom


  #5   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:23 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Jul 2003
Posts: 129
Default Snowflakes?


"Sniper8052(L96A1)" wrote in message
. uk...
This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and
not ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is
it that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just
freezing to be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on
here would know the answer.

I'm sure someone will but drop in on
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
anyway.

Tom




  #6   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:35 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Nov 2004
Posts: 203
Default Snowflakes?


"Tom Allen" wrote in message
...

"Sniper8052(L96A1)" wrote in message
. uk...
This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and
not ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is
it that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just
freezing to be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on
here would know the answer.

I'm sure someone will but drop in on
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
anyway.

Tom


It always amazes me how they say that no two snowflakes are exactly the
same. They obviously have verified this by checking every one that has
fallen from the sky, that would be ludicrous, however, I feel it must be
based on some mathematical theory. This has similarities to a calculation
I did at GCSE Biology which showed why no two people look alike, was to do
with genotypes and chromosomes IIRC.

Anyone have more of an idea than I seem to have !?

Cheers, Joe


  #7   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:35 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Nov 2004
Posts: 203
Default Snowflakes?


"Tom Allen" wrote in message
...

"Sniper8052(L96A1)" wrote in message
. uk...
This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and
not ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is
it that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just
freezing to be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on
here would know the answer.

I'm sure someone will but drop in on
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
anyway.

Tom


It always amazes me how they say that no two snowflakes are exactly the
same. They obviously have verified this by checking every one that has
fallen from the sky, that would be ludicrous, however, I feel it must be
based on some mathematical theory. This has similarities to a calculation
I did at GCSE Biology which showed why no two people look alike, was to do
with genotypes and chromosomes IIRC.

Anyone have more of an idea than I seem to have !?

Cheers, Joe


  #8   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:35 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Nov 2004
Posts: 203
Default Snowflakes?


"Tom Allen" wrote in message
...

"Sniper8052(L96A1)" wrote in message
. uk...
This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and
not ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is
it that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just
freezing to be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on
here would know the answer.

I'm sure someone will but drop in on
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
anyway.

Tom


It always amazes me how they say that no two snowflakes are exactly the
same. They obviously have verified this by checking every one that has
fallen from the sky, that would be ludicrous, however, I feel it must be
based on some mathematical theory. This has similarities to a calculation
I did at GCSE Biology which showed why no two people look alike, was to do
with genotypes and chromosomes IIRC.

Anyone have more of an idea than I seem to have !?

Cheers, Joe


  #9   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:35 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Nov 2004
Posts: 203
Default Snowflakes?


"Tom Allen" wrote in message
...

"Sniper8052(L96A1)" wrote in message
. uk...
This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and
not ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is
it that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just
freezing to be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on
here would know the answer.

I'm sure someone will but drop in on
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
anyway.

Tom


It always amazes me how they say that no two snowflakes are exactly the
same. They obviously have verified this by checking every one that has
fallen from the sky, that would be ludicrous, however, I feel it must be
based on some mathematical theory. This has similarities to a calculation
I did at GCSE Biology which showed why no two people look alike, was to do
with genotypes and chromosomes IIRC.

Anyone have more of an idea than I seem to have !?

Cheers, Joe


  #10   Report Post  
Old March 3rd 05, 06:37 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Sep 2004
Posts: 387
Default Snowflakes?

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:12:09 GMT, Sniper8052(L96A1) wrote in
.uk

This will sound just a little daft but why is snow... well snow, and not
ice?
Why is it that a snow flake is a flake rather than a pellet? What is it
that makes the water expand to form a flake rather than just freezing to
be an ice drop?
We were pondering this last night and I suggested the smart bods on here
would know the answer.


A snow flake is an aggregation of tens or hundreds of separate tiny ice
crystals. The latter grow within the colder parts of clouds and take on a
crystal structure, well illustrated on many web pages.

The growth is directly from water vapour gas to an ice crystal, with no
liquid water normally involved. As the falling crystals bump into each
other, they often join (at fairly high temperatures) to form what we see as
a snow flake, containing much air, both in and between the crystals. If
the lower air is sufficiently cold, these flakes can get all the way down
to the ground, but usually they melt to produce what we see as rain.

So your idea of "water expanding to form a flake" needs to be re-thought:-)

This page seems to have some useful information:

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/s...mer/primer.htm

--
Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 03/03/2005 18:37:23 UTC


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chasing snowflakes jbm[_4_] uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) 0 January 30th 10 12:07 AM
Mid Suffolk Snowflakes [email protected] uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) 0 March 28th 09 10:12 AM
Perfect snowflakes.... cupra uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) 4 January 16th 06 12:16 AM
[WR] Humungous snowflakes, north Kent Darren Prescott uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) 24 March 2nd 05 11:51 AM
[WR] High Dartmoor 06/02/05 (snowflakes) Will Hand uk.sci.weather (UK Weather) 0 February 6th 05 06:13 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:48 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 Weather Banter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Weather"

 

Copyright © 2017