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Anne Burgess wrote:
Thank you for that warning. I haven't tripped over the reference yet - what *do* the Leftpondians describe as sleet? "Sleet" over there is a term for ice pellets. I'm afraid I don't know what they call the mixture of rain and snow (or melting snow) that we call sleet. -- Steve Loft, Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire. 1417ft ASL Weather and webcam: http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/ Free weather softwa http://cumulus.nybbles.co.uk/ Hand-crafted greetings cards: http://www.fairhand.co.uk/ |
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Anne Burgess wrote:
Thank you for that warning. I haven't tripped over the reference yet - what *do* the Leftpondians describe as sleet? "Sleet" over there is a term for ice pellets. I'm afraid I don't know what they call the mixture of rain and snow (or melting snow) that we call sleet. -- Steve Loft, Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire. 1417ft ASL Weather and webcam: http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/ Free weather softwa http://cumulus.nybbles.co.uk/ Hand-crafted greetings cards: http://www.fairhand.co.uk/ |
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Anne Burgess wrote:
Thank you for that warning. I haven't tripped over the reference yet - what *do* the Leftpondians describe as sleet? "Sleet" over there is a term for ice pellets. I'm afraid I don't know what they call the mixture of rain and snow (or melting snow) that we call sleet. -- Steve Loft, Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire. 1417ft ASL Weather and webcam: http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/ Free weather softwa http://cumulus.nybbles.co.uk/ Hand-crafted greetings cards: http://www.fairhand.co.uk/ |
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"Alastair McDonald" k
wrote in message "Taz" me@home wrote in message ... Looks like everyone avoided the original question. Why are snowflakes created when they should just form a pellet? It is the shape of the H2O molecule which decides the shape of the crystal. It is like a boomerang, with a 120deg bend. Thus the crystals are flat and six sided. But not polymorphic or whatever the term is for carbon crystals? Water droplets in air might form pellets when the drop is in a free fall like suspension. (They are round due to the internal tension being equal in all directions or somesuch. But what keeps the droplets apart?) And the ice crystal seems to generate in a form of deliquescence (is that the term) when the liquid phase of the physical change is missing? I must admit to not having read the link through yet. An ice crystal or cube dropped into supercool water will form crystals similar to the frosting on windows. Apparently water in a pond ices up the same way, top down not side to side at the top (or any other layer.) There must be some way that ions are jiggled in any matrix so that their arrangement hits just the right note to bring them out of suspension. Perhaps they can only come out of suspension in that one ideal way. Or perhaps that way is the first key that fits? We know when we force ions to form electronically, they form crystals amorphically. (Very loose use of scientific terms due to not being sure of what I am talking about.) (The usual thing me me, I have to say.) -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"Alastair McDonald" k
wrote in message "Taz" me@home wrote in message ... Looks like everyone avoided the original question. Why are snowflakes created when they should just form a pellet? It is the shape of the H2O molecule which decides the shape of the crystal. It is like a boomerang, with a 120deg bend. Thus the crystals are flat and six sided. But not polymorphic or whatever the term is for carbon crystals? Water droplets in air might form pellets when the drop is in a free fall like suspension. (They are round due to the internal tension being equal in all directions or somesuch. But what keeps the droplets apart?) And the ice crystal seems to generate in a form of deliquescence (is that the term) when the liquid phase of the physical change is missing? I must admit to not having read the link through yet. An ice crystal or cube dropped into supercool water will form crystals similar to the frosting on windows. Apparently water in a pond ices up the same way, top down not side to side at the top (or any other layer.) There must be some way that ions are jiggled in any matrix so that their arrangement hits just the right note to bring them out of suspension. Perhaps they can only come out of suspension in that one ideal way. Or perhaps that way is the first key that fits? We know when we force ions to form electronically, they form crystals amorphically. (Very loose use of scientific terms due to not being sure of what I am talking about.) (The usual thing me me, I have to say.) -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"Alastair McDonald" k
wrote in message "Taz" me@home wrote in message ... Looks like everyone avoided the original question. Why are snowflakes created when they should just form a pellet? It is the shape of the H2O molecule which decides the shape of the crystal. It is like a boomerang, with a 120deg bend. Thus the crystals are flat and six sided. But not polymorphic or whatever the term is for carbon crystals? Water droplets in air might form pellets when the drop is in a free fall like suspension. (They are round due to the internal tension being equal in all directions or somesuch. But what keeps the droplets apart?) And the ice crystal seems to generate in a form of deliquescence (is that the term) when the liquid phase of the physical change is missing? I must admit to not having read the link through yet. An ice crystal or cube dropped into supercool water will form crystals similar to the frosting on windows. Apparently water in a pond ices up the same way, top down not side to side at the top (or any other layer.) There must be some way that ions are jiggled in any matrix so that their arrangement hits just the right note to bring them out of suspension. Perhaps they can only come out of suspension in that one ideal way. Or perhaps that way is the first key that fits? We know when we force ions to form electronically, they form crystals amorphically. (Very loose use of scientific terms due to not being sure of what I am talking about.) (The usual thing me me, I have to say.) -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"Alastair McDonald" k
wrote in message "Taz" me@home wrote in message ... Looks like everyone avoided the original question. Why are snowflakes created when they should just form a pellet? It is the shape of the H2O molecule which decides the shape of the crystal. It is like a boomerang, with a 120deg bend. Thus the crystals are flat and six sided. But not polymorphic or whatever the term is for carbon crystals? Water droplets in air might form pellets when the drop is in a free fall like suspension. (They are round due to the internal tension being equal in all directions or somesuch. But what keeps the droplets apart?) And the ice crystal seems to generate in a form of deliquescence (is that the term) when the liquid phase of the physical change is missing? I must admit to not having read the link through yet. An ice crystal or cube dropped into supercool water will form crystals similar to the frosting on windows. Apparently water in a pond ices up the same way, top down not side to side at the top (or any other layer.) There must be some way that ions are jiggled in any matrix so that their arrangement hits just the right note to bring them out of suspension. Perhaps they can only come out of suspension in that one ideal way. Or perhaps that way is the first key that fits? We know when we force ions to form electronically, they form crystals amorphically. (Very loose use of scientific terms due to not being sure of what I am talking about.) (The usual thing me me, I have to say.) -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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