"Col" wrote in message
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"Paul C" wrote in message
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What he says seems OK.
He says that schools should endeavour to take all 'reasonable' steps to
ensure that in wintry weather school premises are kept as safe as
possible.

What's wrong with that?

Do you think that if the school claims "no responsibility will be
taken by the school in the event of any injury caused by such", that
will be it?

Nope.

But neither he nor I claimed that such a stance was acceptable.

Col


Children slipping is just one of many, and is particularly low on the list,
of dangers that Heads have to deal with in these conditions.

The primary danger is around drop off and pick up times at teh beggining and
end of the day. In the snow, the car dependent (addicted?) parents are the
biggest danger as they skid and slide their vehicles up and down pavemnets
and along roads. Plus the very real prospect of teachers having to babysit
kids as scores of parents call in to claim they can't get to school as their
car windscreen has an inch of snow on it and they've left their gloves at
home. Heads close schools out of bitter experience - not for any cop out
reasons. The fact kids might slip in the playground is generally NOT their
main concern when taking these decisions.

And.. it's absolutely typical and not suprising that the same original
poster should take this opportunity to have a pop at teachers and school
holidays.

I am an ex-teacher married to a deputy head. I taught from Reception through
to GCSE Physics in my teaching carreer. I was a good teacher (remember
teachers get inspected and graded). But I left because of the stresses of
the job (brought on mostly by the futility of the pen pushing and form
filling). I know run my own business and generally put in 80-90 hours a week
and I've had two weeks holiday in the last 3 years. But..
I'd never go back to teaching. It's too bloody hard! It's 13 weeks holiday
BTW but in my experience very few teachers take all 13 weeks and I'll take
my current 2 weeks in 3 years over my wife's 13 weeks a year any day. My
wife averages 56 hours a week working.

Cheers
Mark

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Paul C" wrote in message
...


What he says seems OK.
He says that schools should endeavour to take all 'reasonable' steps to
ensure that in wintry weather school premises are kept as safe as
possible.

What's wrong with that?

Do you think that if the school claims "no responsibility will be
taken by the school in the event of any injury caused by such", that
will be it?

Nope.

But neither he nor I claimed that such a stance was acceptable.

Col


Children slipping is just one of many, and is particularly low on the list,
of dangers that Heads have to deal with in these conditions.

The primary danger is around drop off and pick up times at teh beggining and
end of the day. In the snow, the car dependent (addicted?) parents are the
biggest danger as they skid and slide their vehicles up and down pavemnets
and along roads. Plus the very real prospect of teachers having to babysit
kids as scores of parents call in to claim they can't get to school as their
car windscreen has an inch of snow on it and they've left their gloves at
home. Heads close schools out of bitter experience - not for any cop out
reasons. The fact kids might slip in the playground is generally NOT their
main concern when taking these decisions.

And.. it's absolutely typical and not suprising that the same original
poster should take this opportunity to have a pop at teachers and school
holidays.

I am an ex-teacher married to a deputy head. I taught from Reception through
to GCSE Physics in my teaching carreer. I was a good teacher (remember
teachers get inspected and graded). But I left because of the stresses of
the job (brought on mostly by the futility of the pen pushing and form
filling). I know run my own business and generally put in 80-90 hours a week
and I've had two weeks holiday in the last 3 years. But..
I'd never go back to teaching. It's too bloody hard! It's 13 weeks holiday
BTW but in my experience very few teachers take all 13 weeks and I'll take
my current 2 weeks in 3 years over my wife's 13 weeks a year any day. My
wife averages 56 hours a week working.

Cheers
Mark

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Paul C" wrote in message
...


What he says seems OK.
He says that schools should endeavour to take all 'reasonable' steps to
ensure that in wintry weather school premises are kept as safe as
possible.

What's wrong with that?

Do you think that if the school claims "no responsibility will be
taken by the school in the event of any injury caused by such", that
will be it?

Nope.

But neither he nor I claimed that such a stance was acceptable.

Col


Children slipping is just one of many, and is particularly low on the list,
of dangers that Heads have to deal with in these conditions.

The primary danger is around drop off and pick up times at teh beggining and
end of the day. In the snow, the car dependent (addicted?) parents are the
biggest danger as they skid and slide their vehicles up and down pavemnets
and along roads. Plus the very real prospect of teachers having to babysit
kids as scores of parents call in to claim they can't get to school as their
car windscreen has an inch of snow on it and they've left their gloves at
home. Heads close schools out of bitter experience - not for any cop out
reasons. The fact kids might slip in the playground is generally NOT their
main concern when taking these decisions.

And.. it's absolutely typical and not suprising that the same original
poster should take this opportunity to have a pop at teachers and school
holidays.

I am an ex-teacher married to a deputy head. I taught from Reception through
to GCSE Physics in my teaching carreer. I was a good teacher (remember
teachers get inspected and graded). But I left because of the stresses of
the job (brought on mostly by the futility of the pen pushing and form
filling). I know run my own business and generally put in 80-90 hours a week
and I've had two weeks holiday in the last 3 years. But..
I'd never go back to teaching. It's too bloody hard! It's 13 weeks holiday
BTW but in my experience very few teachers take all 13 weeks and I'll take
my current 2 weeks in 3 years over my wife's 13 weeks a year any day. My
wife averages 56 hours a week working.

Cheers
Mark

Hey Hey Hey.
Nobody is having a pop at the teaching profession, its just the system.
For gods sake I realise that a teachers job is a very difficult one these
days, and I for one would not like to be doing it. But lets face the facts,
the morning and afternoon rush hours will never cease and children will
always be in some danger at these times, along with many of us adults.
And as for the holidays, I have no more comments to make!
I appologise sincerely if my views have upset one or two posters to this NG.

Regards. Len.
"Marc" wrote in message
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"Col" wrote in message
...

"Paul C" wrote in message
...


What he says seems OK.
He says that schools should endeavour to take all 'reasonable' steps to
ensure that in wintry weather school premises are kept as safe as
possible.

What's wrong with that?

Do you think that if the school claims "no responsibility will be
taken by the school in the event of any injury caused by such", that
will be it?

Nope.

But neither he nor I claimed that such a stance was acceptable.

Col


Children slipping is just one of many, and is particularly low on the
list, of dangers that Heads have to deal with in these conditions.

The primary danger is around drop off and pick up times at teh beggining
and end of the day. In the snow, the car dependent (addicted?) parents are
the biggest danger as they skid and slide their vehicles up and down
pavemnets and along roads. Plus the very real prospect of teachers having
to babysit kids as scores of parents call in to claim they can't get to
school as their car windscreen has an inch of snow on it and they've left
their gloves at home. Heads close schools out of bitter experience - not
for any cop out reasons. The fact kids might slip in the playground is
generally NOT their main concern when taking these decisions.

And.. it's absolutely typical and not suprising that the same original
poster should take this opportunity to have a pop at teachers and school
holidays.

I am an ex-teacher married to a deputy head. I taught from Reception
through to GCSE Physics in my teaching carreer. I was a good teacher
(remember teachers get inspected and graded). But I left because of the
stresses of the job (brought on mostly by the futility of the pen pushing
and form filling). I know run my own business and generally put in 80-90
hours a week and I've had two weeks holiday in the last 3 years. But..
I'd never go back to teaching. It's too bloody hard! It's 13 weeks holiday
BTW but in my experience very few teachers take all 13 weeks and I'll take
my current 2 weeks in 3 years over my wife's 13 weeks a year any day. My
wife averages 56 hours a week working.

Cheers
Mark

Hey Hey Hey.
Nobody is having a pop at the teaching profession, its just the system.
For gods sake I realise that a teachers job is a very difficult one these
days, and I for one would not like to be doing it. But lets face the facts,
the morning and afternoon rush hours will never cease and children will
always be in some danger at these times, along with many of us adults.
And as for the holidays, I have no more comments to make!
I appologise sincerely if my views have upset one or two posters to this NG.

Regards. Len.
"Marc" wrote in message
...
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Paul C" wrote in message
...


What he says seems OK.
He says that schools should endeavour to take all 'reasonable' steps to
ensure that in wintry weather school premises are kept as safe as
possible.

What's wrong with that?

Do you think that if the school claims "no responsibility will be
taken by the school in the event of any injury caused by such", that
will be it?

Nope.

But neither he nor I claimed that such a stance was acceptable.

Col


Children slipping is just one of many, and is particularly low on the
list, of dangers that Heads have to deal with in these conditions.

The primary danger is around drop off and pick up times at teh beggining
and end of the day. In the snow, the car dependent (addicted?) parents are
the biggest danger as they skid and slide their vehicles up and down
pavemnets and along roads. Plus the very real prospect of teachers having
to babysit kids as scores of parents call in to claim they can't get to
school as their car windscreen has an inch of snow on it and they've left
their gloves at home. Heads close schools out of bitter experience - not
for any cop out reasons. The fact kids might slip in the playground is
generally NOT their main concern when taking these decisions.

And.. it's absolutely typical and not suprising that the same original
poster should take this opportunity to have a pop at teachers and school
holidays.

I am an ex-teacher married to a deputy head. I taught from Reception
through to GCSE Physics in my teaching carreer. I was a good teacher
(remember teachers get inspected and graded). But I left because of the
stresses of the job (brought on mostly by the futility of the pen pushing
and form filling). I know run my own business and generally put in 80-90
hours a week and I've had two weeks holiday in the last 3 years. But..
I'd never go back to teaching. It's too bloody hard! It's 13 weeks holiday
BTW but in my experience very few teachers take all 13 weeks and I'll take
my current 2 weeks in 3 years over my wife's 13 weeks a year any day. My
wife averages 56 hours a week working.

Cheers
Mark

Hey Hey Hey.
Nobody is having a pop at the teaching profession, its just the system.
For gods sake I realise that a teachers job is a very difficult one these
days, and I for one would not like to be doing it. But lets face the facts,
the morning and afternoon rush hours will never cease and children will
always be in some danger at these times, along with many of us adults.
And as for the holidays, I have no more comments to make!
I appologise sincerely if my views have upset one or two posters to this NG.

Regards. Len.
"Marc" wrote in message
...
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Paul C" wrote in message
...


What he says seems OK.
He says that schools should endeavour to take all 'reasonable' steps to
ensure that in wintry weather school premises are kept as safe as
possible.

What's wrong with that?

Do you think that if the school claims "no responsibility will be
taken by the school in the event of any injury caused by such", that
will be it?

Nope.

But neither he nor I claimed that such a stance was acceptable.

Col


Children slipping is just one of many, and is particularly low on the
list, of dangers that Heads have to deal with in these conditions.

The primary danger is around drop off and pick up times at teh beggining
and end of the day. In the snow, the car dependent (addicted?) parents are
the biggest danger as they skid and slide their vehicles up and down
pavemnets and along roads. Plus the very real prospect of teachers having
to babysit kids as scores of parents call in to claim they can't get to
school as their car windscreen has an inch of snow on it and they've left
their gloves at home. Heads close schools out of bitter experience - not
for any cop out reasons. The fact kids might slip in the playground is
generally NOT their main concern when taking these decisions.

And.. it's absolutely typical and not suprising that the same original
poster should take this opportunity to have a pop at teachers and school
holidays.

I am an ex-teacher married to a deputy head. I taught from Reception
through to GCSE Physics in my teaching carreer. I was a good teacher
(remember teachers get inspected and graded). But I left because of the
stresses of the job (brought on mostly by the futility of the pen pushing
and form filling). I know run my own business and generally put in 80-90
hours a week and I've had two weeks holiday in the last 3 years. But..
I'd never go back to teaching. It's too bloody hard! It's 13 weeks holiday
BTW but in my experience very few teachers take all 13 weeks and I'll take
my current 2 weeks in 3 years over my wife's 13 weeks a year any day. My
wife averages 56 hours a week working.

Cheers
Mark

Hey Hey Hey.
Nobody is having a pop at the teaching profession, its just the system.
For gods sake I realise that a teachers job is a very difficult one these
days, and I for one would not like to be doing it. But lets face the facts,
the morning and afternoon rush hours will never cease and children will
always be in some danger at these times, along with many of us adults.
And as for the holidays, I have no more comments to make!
I appologise sincerely if my views have upset one or two posters to this NG.

Regards. Len.
"Marc" wrote in message
...
"Col" wrote in message
...

"Paul C" wrote in message
...


What he says seems OK.
He says that schools should endeavour to take all 'reasonable' steps to
ensure that in wintry weather school premises are kept as safe as
possible.

What's wrong with that?

Do you think that if the school claims "no responsibility will be
taken by the school in the event of any injury caused by such", that
will be it?

Nope.

But neither he nor I claimed that such a stance was acceptable.

Col


Children slipping is just one of many, and is particularly low on the
list, of dangers that Heads have to deal with in these conditions.

The primary danger is around drop off and pick up times at teh beggining
and end of the day. In the snow, the car dependent (addicted?) parents are
the biggest danger as they skid and slide their vehicles up and down
pavemnets and along roads. Plus the very real prospect of teachers having
to babysit kids as scores of parents call in to claim they can't get to
school as their car windscreen has an inch of snow on it and they've left
their gloves at home. Heads close schools out of bitter experience - not
for any cop out reasons. The fact kids might slip in the playground is
generally NOT their main concern when taking these decisions.

And.. it's absolutely typical and not suprising that the same original
poster should take this opportunity to have a pop at teachers and school
holidays.

I am an ex-teacher married to a deputy head. I taught from Reception
through to GCSE Physics in my teaching carreer. I was a good teacher
(remember teachers get inspected and graded). But I left because of the
stresses of the job (brought on mostly by the futility of the pen pushing
and form filling). I know run my own business and generally put in 80-90
hours a week and I've had two weeks holiday in the last 3 years. But..
I'd never go back to teaching. It's too bloody hard! It's 13 weeks holiday
BTW but in my experience very few teachers take all 13 weeks and I'll take
my current 2 weeks in 3 years over my wife's 13 weeks a year any day. My
wife averages 56 hours a week working.

Cheers
Mark