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In article lgate.org, Michael Mcneil writes: http://www.doverpublications.com/sam...4/sample4b.htm Interesting, much overlooked and so far as I know, still unexplained natural phenomenon. Assuming that you are referring to the first paragraph on that page, I think this would be the effect of the sea breeze, caused by the land heating up faster than the sea during the day and cooling down faster at night. But a phenomenon with such a mild(ish) induction process would be quickly over ridden by a more persuasive set-up such as a weakish Low or a moderate High. The paragraph reads: Says Westy: "...and they expect the wind to flow the same way near the shore as it does a mile or so out. They don't know that wind always favours the shore at right angles." (Author's note: This is also true. Wind, whether off shore or onshore, if blowing at an angle to the shore, always tends to shift and head directly into or out from the straight line of the shore.) I believe the same is true of breakers. I think that such a tendency can build up to give the phenomenon where every so many waves, there is a much larger one. (Each wave hits the shore and is reflected at a slightly more open angle. Every 7 to 12 or so waves the swell and its counter are in harmony. Not too sure about that explanation.) The way I read that is that no matter what the cause of the wind, the tendency is for it to flow perpendicular to the shoreline. First of all is this really so? If it is then how is that accomplished? The phenomenon you describe is one caused by temperature differences causing pressure changes especially noticeable between day and night. At sea the wind direction is some 15 degrees off the heading to or from the centre. Presumable the way land interferes stops that being as true? Local warm/cool spots, altitude changes, barriers and whatever? -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"John Hall" wrote in message
In article lgate.org, Michael Mcneil writes: http://www.doverpublications.com/sam...4/sample4b.htm Interesting, much overlooked and so far as I know, still unexplained natural phenomenon. Assuming that you are referring to the first paragraph on that page, I think this would be the effect of the sea breeze, caused by the land heating up faster than the sea during the day and cooling down faster at night. But a phenomenon with such a mild(ish) induction process would be quickly over ridden by a more persuasive set-up such as a weakish Low or a moderate High. The paragraph reads: Says Westy: "...and they expect the wind to flow the same way near the shore as it does a mile or so out. They don't know that wind always favours the shore at right angles." (Author's note: This is also true. Wind, whether off shore or onshore, if blowing at an angle to the shore, always tends to shift and head directly into or out from the straight line of the shore.) I believe the same is true of breakers. I think that such a tendency can build up to give the phenomenon where every so many waves, there is a much larger one. (Each wave hits the shore and is reflected at a slightly more open angle. Every 7 to 12 or so waves the swell and its counter are in harmony. Not too sure about that explanation.) The way I read that is that no matter what the cause of the wind, the tendency is for it to flow perpendicular to the shoreline. First of all is this really so? If it is then how is that accomplished? The phenomenon you describe is one caused by temperature differences causing pressure changes especially noticeable between day and night. At sea the wind direction is some 15 degrees off the heading to or from the centre. Presumable the way land interferes stops that being as true? Local warm/cool spots, altitude changes, barriers and whatever? -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"John Hall" wrote in message
In article lgate.org, Michael Mcneil writes: http://www.doverpublications.com/sam...4/sample4b.htm Interesting, much overlooked and so far as I know, still unexplained natural phenomenon. Assuming that you are referring to the first paragraph on that page, I think this would be the effect of the sea breeze, caused by the land heating up faster than the sea during the day and cooling down faster at night. But a phenomenon with such a mild(ish) induction process would be quickly over ridden by a more persuasive set-up such as a weakish Low or a moderate High. The paragraph reads: Says Westy: "...and they expect the wind to flow the same way near the shore as it does a mile or so out. They don't know that wind always favours the shore at right angles." (Author's note: This is also true. Wind, whether off shore or onshore, if blowing at an angle to the shore, always tends to shift and head directly into or out from the straight line of the shore.) I believe the same is true of breakers. I think that such a tendency can build up to give the phenomenon where every so many waves, there is a much larger one. (Each wave hits the shore and is reflected at a slightly more open angle. Every 7 to 12 or so waves the swell and its counter are in harmony. Not too sure about that explanation.) The way I read that is that no matter what the cause of the wind, the tendency is for it to flow perpendicular to the shoreline. First of all is this really so? If it is then how is that accomplished? The phenomenon you describe is one caused by temperature differences causing pressure changes especially noticeable between day and night. At sea the wind direction is some 15 degrees off the heading to or from the centre. Presumable the way land interferes stops that being as true? Local warm/cool spots, altitude changes, barriers and whatever? -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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