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Hi Codge you sad loser


"Matty H" wrote in message
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Hi,

I just want your thoughts on the predicted freeze in the next few days.

This was from Metchecks winter forecast by the way.

Matty
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These absurd "long range" forecasts (!?) are becoming more than just a
source of amusement - they are actually becoming a confounded
nuisance.

I never look at them let alone pay any regard to rumours flying around
re MetChuck, etc. But friends and acquaintances are more and more
often saying to me – knowing of my interests – "I hear we are going to
have a cold winter".

These amateurs, admittedly with a marvelous gift for self publicity,
might actually be affecting the economy in some ways. I am in fact
quite surprised not to have seen a sign outside any garage selling
coal, logs etc that proclaims: "Stock up now for the hard winter
ahead"

Jack
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In message , Jack
Harrison writes
These absurd "long range" forecasts (!?) are becoming more than just a
source of amusement - they are actually becoming a confounded
nuisance.

I never look at them let alone pay any regard to rumours flying around
re MetChuck, etc. But friends and acquaintances are more and more
often saying to me – knowing of my interests – "I hear we are going to
have a cold winter".

These amateurs, admittedly with a marvelous gift for self publicity,
might actually be affecting the economy in some ways. I am in fact
quite surprised not to have seen a sign outside any garage selling
coal, logs etc that proclaims: "Stock up now for the hard winter
ahead"


I keep hearing references to "the very cold winter ahead" or "the big
freeze we have coming" on news and current affairs programmes on radio
and TV. These predictions seem to have evolved into fact as far as the
media are concerned, I agree with your concerns, Jack.

Norman.
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I keep hearing references to "the very cold winter ahead" or "the big
freeze we have coming" on news and current affairs programmes on radio
and TV. These predictions seem to have evolved into fact as far as the
media are concerned, I agree with your concerns, Jack.

Norman.


I had the Magic music channel on last night (bit sad I know) and there's
a looping trailer that mentions a snowy Christmas ahead or something.
I won't repeat what I said.

Jon.



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"Dave.C" wrote in message
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Are you THE Matty H. TWO moderator ?

Apparently it isn't.
Victor


Yeah, well that's what Dolly the sheep said!


I think you'll find that Dolly said baaaa baaaa! :-)

Victor




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I've heard similar and am losing the will (Will? no pun intended) to live
..:-)
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"Norman Lynagh" wrote in
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I keep hearing references to "the very cold winter ahead" or "the big
freeze we have coming" on news and current affairs programmes on radio
and TV. These predictions seem to have evolved into fact as far as the
media are concerned, I agree with your concerns, Jack.

Norman.


I had the Magic music channel on last night (bit sad I know) and there's
a looping trailer that mentions a snowy Christmas ahead or something.
I won't repeat what I said.

Jon.



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No matter what anyone else thinks may happen this winter, the conditions
thus far are very different from more recent years. When I worked for BT in
Old Street, London, I distinctly remember a spell of weather lasting for
weeks, where there was constant cloud cover, I think it may have been in
December 1996. January 1997 was cold with air frosts both day and night for
quite some time, in fact it was the coldest January weather since that
dreadful winter of January 1987, at least in the Southeast.

I think events this year are most definitely worth keeping an eye on...

Shaun Pudwell.


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I've heard similar and am losing the will (Will? no pun intended) to live
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"Norman Lynagh" wrote in
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I keep hearing references to "the very cold winter ahead" or "the big
freeze we have coming" on news and current affairs programmes on radio
and TV. These predictions seem to have evolved into fact as far as the
media are concerned, I agree with your concerns, Jack.

Norman.


I had the Magic music channel on last night (bit sad I know) and there's
a looping trailer that mentions a snowy Christmas ahead or something.
I won't repeat what I said.

Jon.



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"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
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These absurd "long range" forecasts (!?) are becoming more than just a
source of amusement - they are actually becoming a confounded
nuisance.

I never look at them let alone pay any regard to rumours flying around
re MetChuck, etc. But friends and acquaintances are more and more
often saying to me - knowing of my interests - "I hear we are going to
have a cold winter".

These amateurs, admittedly with a marvelous gift for self publicity,
might actually be affecting the economy in some ways. I am in fact
quite surprised not to have seen a sign outside any garage selling
coal, logs etc that proclaims: "Stock up now for the hard winter
ahead"


Somebody came up to me the other day and started going on about
how we were going to have a cold winter. I sighed inwardly and patiently
explained that what he had heard was almost certainly a forecast from
the likes of Metcheck/TWO and their tactics of crowing about the ones they
got right and quietly forgetting about the ones they got wrong.

I sent him away with him promising to be more sceptical about what he
hears in the media from now on

Col
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"Col" wrote in message
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"Jack Harrison" wrote in message
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These absurd "long range" forecasts (!?) are becoming more than just a
source of amusement - they are actually becoming a confounded
nuisance.

I never look at them let alone pay any regard to rumours flying around
re MetChuck, etc. But friends and acquaintances are more and more
often saying to me - knowing of my interests - "I hear we are going to
have a cold winter".

These amateurs, admittedly with a marvelous gift for self publicity,
might actually be affecting the economy in some ways. I am in fact
quite surprised not to have seen a sign outside any garage selling
coal, logs etc that proclaims: "Stock up now for the hard winter
ahead"


Somebody came up to me the other day and started going on about
how we were going to have a cold winter. I sighed inwardly and patiently
explained that what he had heard was almost certainly a forecast from
the likes of Metcheck/TWO and their tactics of crowing about the ones they
got right and quietly forgetting about the ones they got wrong.

I sent him away with him promising to be more sceptical about what he
hears in the media from now on

Col


Indeed and people wonder why I get so bloomin annoyed with the antics of these
people.

In the building and other trades people have work done from unqualified people
at their own risk and the trades federations ensure that their skilled craftsmen
have accreditation and certificates. I know the Royal Met Soc has introduced the
chartered meterologists scheme, this should go a long way to help in my view. I
have no problem with anyone making forecasts, indeed a lot of private companies
and consultants do a terrific job, but you hear little of them because they do
their good work quietly unlike some who seem to crow and make sensationalist
forecasts and make sure that the media know about them.

On my walk today someone asked me "when is the severe winter going to start" , I
put her right by saying that the Met Office did not make that prediction and I
also explained that no respectable scientists would stand up so early and say
such a thing without giving probabilities of occurrence, expressions of
confidence, other provisos etc etc.

One thing I *can* tell you is that you can be assured that the Met office is now
"on the case" and the media will be well informed in future of who published
what and when.

Before anyone asks, no I do not have a chartered meteorologist's certificate
despite being a professional for 34 years ! I class myself as a competent DIY'er
:-)

Will.
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On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:12:37 -0000, "Will Hand"
wrote:

(snip)

Somebody came up to me the other day and started going on about
how we were going to have a cold winter.


Yes- an amazing number of people in and around the area where I work
seem to have the very same view


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