"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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Hello everybody,
The front of Monday's Guardian has a large photo of the summit
of Kilimanjaro without much snow, and the caption suggests that it now
has less snow than at any time in the last 11,000 years and this is due
to Global Warming and has occurred 15 years ahead of the predicted time
and isn't it dreadful.
I wonder how much of this is true. I have read elsewhere that
the mountain has less snow on it now due to the climate simply being
drier. How much of a change in temperature has there been near the
equator at the 500 mb level, just about the height of Kilimanjaro? And
has it got drier recently?
There is no doubt the world is a warmer place than it was 100
years ago but by less than 1°C. Is that enough on its own to remove
the snow from Kilimanjaro? On the other hand there are large
variations in precipitation amounts over periods of decades,
particularly in low latitudes, eg the Sahel.
Does anyone have any figures relating to this?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



I saw this artcile. It was quite intresting. It would be interesting to know
how much snow was on this mountain in the 12th century when the climate was
2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Gavin.

2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?
_______________________
Nick G
Worcester
45m amsl

2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?
_______________________
Nick G
Worcester
45m amsl

2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?
_______________________
Nick G
Worcester
45m amsl

2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?
_______________________
Nick G
Worcester
45m amsl

"Nick G" wrote in message
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2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?
_______________________
Nick G
Worcester
45m amsl


Lonnie Thompson, professor of geological sciences, Ohio State's Byrd Polar
Research Center, reported that at least one-third of the massive ice field
atop Tanzania's Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa has disappeared, or melted, in
the last dozen years. About 82 percent of the ice field has been lost since
it was first mapped in 1912. He said: "At this rate, all of the ice will be
gone between the years 2010 and 2020. And that is probably a conservative
estimate,"

Ref: http://www.solcomhouse.com/icecap.htm towards bottom of webpage

Joe
Wolverhampton
175m asl

"Nick G" wrote in message
...
2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?
_______________________
Nick G
Worcester
45m amsl


Lonnie Thompson, professor of geological sciences, Ohio State's Byrd Polar
Research Center, reported that at least one-third of the massive ice field
atop Tanzania's Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa has disappeared, or melted, in
the last dozen years. About 82 percent of the ice field has been lost since
it was first mapped in 1912. He said: "At this rate, all of the ice will be
gone between the years 2010 and 2020. And that is probably a conservative
estimate,"

Ref: http://www.solcomhouse.com/icecap.htm towards bottom of webpage

Joe
Wolverhampton
175m asl

"Nick G" wrote in message
...
2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?
_______________________
Nick G
Worcester
45m amsl


Lonnie Thompson, professor of geological sciences, Ohio State's Byrd Polar
Research Center, reported that at least one-third of the massive ice field
atop Tanzania's Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa has disappeared, or melted, in
the last dozen years. About 82 percent of the ice field has been lost since
it was first mapped in 1912. He said: "At this rate, all of the ice will be
gone between the years 2010 and 2020. And that is probably a conservative
estimate,"

Ref: http://www.solcomhouse.com/icecap.htm towards bottom of webpage

Joe
Wolverhampton
175m asl

"Nick G" wrote in message
...
2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?
_______________________
Nick G
Worcester
45m amsl


Lonnie Thompson, professor of geological sciences, Ohio State's Byrd Polar
Research Center, reported that at least one-third of the massive ice field
atop Tanzania's Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa has disappeared, or melted, in
the last dozen years. About 82 percent of the ice field has been lost since
it was first mapped in 1912. He said: "At this rate, all of the ice will be
gone between the years 2010 and 2020. And that is probably a conservative
estimate,"

Ref: http://www.solcomhouse.com/icecap.htm towards bottom of webpage

Joe
Wolverhampton
175m asl

In article ,
Nick G writes:
[quoting Gavin Staples]
2C warmer than it is now. Unfortuntaley there is no way of finding out.

Are you sure? 2C warmer; globally?, where is your evidence?

I don't know about 2C, and globally would be an exaggeration. But it was
certainly warmer in the Middle Ages than it is now in Europe, the North
Atlantic, much of the Arctic and North America. The Pacific Ocean and
its border regions seem to have missed out on this warm period. I say
"now", but the degree of warming over the last couple of decades must be
getting us very closer to that level of medieval warmth.

There's plenty of evidence, not least that the Vikings were able to
successfully establish permanent settlements in the southern coastal
areas of Greenland, which failed some centuries later when the climate
turned colder. If you are interested, I can recommend HH Lamb's
"Climate, History and the Modern World", published by Methuen in 1982. I
dare say that a second-hand copy might be obtainable through
amazon.co.uk
--
John Hall
"Sir, I have found you an argument;
but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)