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Well, i need to move away from weather display, more data is going missing
and i think its cause the software keeps crashing the computer!!

I have decided to look at 2 pieces of softwa-

Weatherlink, i think i have version 5.4
Virtual Weather Station

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best.

Or could i buy myself a Access 2003 book, learn databases more and make my
own like Jonathan Scott did that was mentioned in teh previous post below.

Stuart



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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote:

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best.


Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this
isn't a well-developed feature.

There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most
suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to
divide requirements up into categories, eg:

1. Display of current and archive data locally;

2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site;

3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly
reports by month etc;

From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1]
and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects
of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to
at least counterbalance the deficiencies.

But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly)
reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't
need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so
can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting
and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly
the output you'd like to see.

Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a
formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data
directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access
database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval
and reporting tools.

JGD
www.weatherstations.co.uk
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote:

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best.


Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this
isn't a well-developed feature.

There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most
suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to
divide requirements up into categories, eg:

1. Display of current and archive data locally;

2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site;

3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly
reports by month etc;

From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1]
and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects
of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to
at least counterbalance the deficiencies.

But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly)
reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't
need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so
can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting
and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly
the output you'd like to see.

Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a
formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data
directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access
database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval
and reporting tools.

JGD
www.weatherstations.co.uk
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote:

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best.


Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this
isn't a well-developed feature.

There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most
suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to
divide requirements up into categories, eg:

1. Display of current and archive data locally;

2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site;

3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly
reports by month etc;

From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1]
and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects
of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to
at least counterbalance the deficiencies.

But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly)
reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't
need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so
can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting
and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly
the output you'd like to see.

Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a
formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data
directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access
database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval
and reporting tools.

JGD
www.weatherstations.co.uk
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote:

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best.


Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this
isn't a well-developed feature.

There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most
suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to
divide requirements up into categories, eg:

1. Display of current and archive data locally;

2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site;

3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly
reports by month etc;

From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1]
and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects
of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to
at least counterbalance the deficiencies.

But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly)
reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't
need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so
can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting
and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly
the output you'd like to see.

Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a
formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data
directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access
database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval
and reporting tools.

JGD
www.weatherstations.co.uk


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i like your thinking, i have now got weatherlink 5.4v running, i will look
into reporting tools for graphs etc.. but for now, i will let WL do the data
capturing, and hopefully, it wont loose data like wd did.

Its a shame, as i did have WD uploading data as a XML page so i could see
the weather on my mobile phone. Never mind.


"John Dann" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote:

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be
best.


Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this
isn't a well-developed feature.

There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most
suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to
divide requirements up into categories, eg:

1. Display of current and archive data locally;

2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site;

3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly
reports by month etc;

From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1]
and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects
of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to
at least counterbalance the deficiencies.

But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly)
reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't
need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so
can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting
and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly
the output you'd like to see.

Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a
formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data
directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access
database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval
and reporting tools.

JGD
www.weatherstations.co.uk



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i like your thinking, i have now got weatherlink 5.4v running, i will look
into reporting tools for graphs etc.. but for now, i will let WL do the data
capturing, and hopefully, it wont loose data like wd did.

Its a shame, as i did have WD uploading data as a XML page so i could see
the weather on my mobile phone. Never mind.


"John Dann" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote:

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be
best.


Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this
isn't a well-developed feature.

There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most
suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to
divide requirements up into categories, eg:

1. Display of current and archive data locally;

2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site;

3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly
reports by month etc;

From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1]
and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects
of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to
at least counterbalance the deficiencies.

But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly)
reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't
need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so
can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting
and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly
the output you'd like to see.

Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a
formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data
directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access
database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval
and reporting tools.

JGD
www.weatherstations.co.uk



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i like your thinking, i have now got weatherlink 5.4v running, i will look
into reporting tools for graphs etc.. but for now, i will let WL do the data
capturing, and hopefully, it wont loose data like wd did.

Its a shame, as i did have WD uploading data as a XML page so i could see
the weather on my mobile phone. Never mind.


"John Dann" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote:

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be
best.


Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this
isn't a well-developed feature.

There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most
suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to
divide requirements up into categories, eg:

1. Display of current and archive data locally;

2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site;

3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly
reports by month etc;

From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1]
and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects
of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to
at least counterbalance the deficiencies.

But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly)
reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't
need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so
can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting
and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly
the output you'd like to see.

Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a
formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data
directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access
database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval
and reporting tools.

JGD
www.weatherstations.co.uk



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Default weather station software continued.

i like your thinking, i have now got weatherlink 5.4v running, i will look
into reporting tools for graphs etc.. but for now, i will let WL do the data
capturing, and hopefully, it wont loose data like wd did.

Its a shame, as i did have WD uploading data as a XML page so i could see
the weather on my mobile phone. Never mind.


"John Dann" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell"
wrote:

The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display,
but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many
reports, if any.

Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be
best.


Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this
isn't a well-developed feature.

There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most
suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to
divide requirements up into categories, eg:

1. Display of current and archive data locally;

2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site;

3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly
reports by month etc;

From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1]
and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects
of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to
at least counterbalance the deficiencies.

But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly)
reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't
need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so
can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting
and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly
the output you'd like to see.

Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a
formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data
directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access
database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval
and reporting tools.

JGD
www.weatherstations.co.uk



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It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard
text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a
realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own
program to process the text file data.


I copy everything now to Excel, on a daily basis, and find that I can
retrieve much more from it.
I have only very basic computer knowledge, so if I can, anyone can.
--
David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire.




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