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It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. I copy everything now to Excel, on a daily basis, and find that I can retrieve much more from it. I have only very basic computer knowledge, so if I can, anyone can. -- David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire. |
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It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. I copy everything now to Excel, on a daily basis, and find that I can retrieve much more from it. I have only very basic computer knowledge, so if I can, anyone can. -- David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire. |
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It's possible for
example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. I copy everything now to Excel, on a daily basis, and find that I can retrieve much more from it. I have only very basic computer knowledge, so if I can, anyone can. -- David Mitchell, 70m amsl, Langtoft, East Riding of Yorkshire. |
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In message , John Dann
writes On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell" wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. Weatherlink happily does monthly & annual NOAA reports. Through the Internet settings pages you can choose which reports to generate on each upload profile. On my website the current month & last month reports are done everyday. At the start of each month I just edit the file name of the last month report and index it permanently from the archive page. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk The feature WL needs is much more flexibility in graph image generation, the ability to put several parameters on a single graph for upload. The ability to select the content of text reports would be nice too. -- steve www.sbriggs.plus.com/weather |
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In message , John Dann
writes On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell" wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. Weatherlink happily does monthly & annual NOAA reports. Through the Internet settings pages you can choose which reports to generate on each upload profile. On my website the current month & last month reports are done everyday. At the start of each month I just edit the file name of the last month report and index it permanently from the archive page. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk The feature WL needs is much more flexibility in graph image generation, the ability to put several parameters on a single graph for upload. The ability to select the content of text reports would be nice too. -- steve www.sbriggs.plus.com/weather |
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In message , John Dann
writes On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell" wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. Weatherlink happily does monthly & annual NOAA reports. Through the Internet settings pages you can choose which reports to generate on each upload profile. On my website the current month & last month reports are done everyday. At the start of each month I just edit the file name of the last month report and index it permanently from the archive page. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk The feature WL needs is much more flexibility in graph image generation, the ability to put several parameters on a single graph for upload. The ability to select the content of text reports would be nice too. -- steve www.sbriggs.plus.com/weather |
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In message , John Dann
writes On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:01:52 -0000, "Stuart Turrell" wrote: The thing is, i liked the reports you could print out in weather display, but neither of the above pieces of software seem capable of producing many reports, if any. Report wise, (days stats, week stats, month, year etc..) what would be best. Well Weatherlink does do some basic 'NOAA' reports but admittedly this isn't a well-developed feature. There's all sorts of ways you could analyse what might be the most suitable software for your needs, but one of looking at it is to divide requirements up into categories, eg: 1. Display of current and archive data locally; 2. Display of current and recent data (eg trend graphs) on a web site; 3. Creation of monthly reports (maybe mostly as text) by day, yearly reports by month etc; From what you've said, WL might be able to perform acceptably on [1] and [2] - it won't be the best or most fully-featured in all aspects of either of these categories but you might well judge its benefits to at least counterbalance the deficiencies. Weatherlink happily does monthly & annual NOAA reports. Through the Internet settings pages you can choose which reports to generate on each upload profile. On my website the current month & last month reports are done everyday. At the start of each month I just edit the file name of the last month report and index it permanently from the archive page. But for the reports, WL might miss the mark. However, (eg monthly) reporting is an operation that can be done 'offline', ie it doesn't need to be tied in to the constant live collection of new data and so can, in principle, be done by another program. It's possible for example to export a whole month's worth of data from WL to a standard text file and from there it would be possible to use Excel or, as a realistic option depending on your programming skills, write your own program to process the text file data. This could be an interesting and not too demanding programming project which could give you exactly the output you'd like to see. Alternatively, as you suggest, you could move the archived data into a formal database structure. I use a utility that moves all the WL data directly and automatically from the WL archive files into an Access database, from where you can obviously use all the standard retrieval and reporting tools. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk The feature WL needs is much more flexibility in graph image generation, the ability to put several parameters on a single graph for upload. The ability to select the content of text reports would be nice too. -- steve www.sbriggs.plus.com/weather |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:56:23 +0000, Steven Briggs
wrote: Weatherlink happily does monthly & annual NOAA reports. Yes, indeed - as I mentioned above. The problem is that most users interested in reports (which admittedly tends to be a minority of WL users overall) find the WL NOAA reports very limited and requests for more parameters and more detail are common. The feature WL needs is much more flexibility in graph image generation, the ability to put several parameters on a single graph for upload. The ability to select the content of text reports would be nice too. There's absolutely no doubt that no ideal Davis-compatible package exists, whether you're looking at WL or any one of the other contenders. I guess every current WL user has their own wishlist of features they would like to see enhanced and yes multiple datasets on a single plot would score quite highly I'm sure. (Though offering genuine flexibility in plotting arbitrary multiple parameters from different classes, eg temp, wind speed and rainfall on a single plot, becomes increasingly difficult to program cleanly and with ease-of-use). But for serious weather watchers it tends to be the WL reporting facility that is most often criticised IME. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:56:23 +0000, Steven Briggs
wrote: Weatherlink happily does monthly & annual NOAA reports. Yes, indeed - as I mentioned above. The problem is that most users interested in reports (which admittedly tends to be a minority of WL users overall) find the WL NOAA reports very limited and requests for more parameters and more detail are common. The feature WL needs is much more flexibility in graph image generation, the ability to put several parameters on a single graph for upload. The ability to select the content of text reports would be nice too. There's absolutely no doubt that no ideal Davis-compatible package exists, whether you're looking at WL or any one of the other contenders. I guess every current WL user has their own wishlist of features they would like to see enhanced and yes multiple datasets on a single plot would score quite highly I'm sure. (Though offering genuine flexibility in plotting arbitrary multiple parameters from different classes, eg temp, wind speed and rainfall on a single plot, becomes increasingly difficult to program cleanly and with ease-of-use). But for serious weather watchers it tends to be the WL reporting facility that is most often criticised IME. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:56:23 +0000, Steven Briggs
wrote: Weatherlink happily does monthly & annual NOAA reports. Yes, indeed - as I mentioned above. The problem is that most users interested in reports (which admittedly tends to be a minority of WL users overall) find the WL NOAA reports very limited and requests for more parameters and more detail are common. The feature WL needs is much more flexibility in graph image generation, the ability to put several parameters on a single graph for upload. The ability to select the content of text reports would be nice too. There's absolutely no doubt that no ideal Davis-compatible package exists, whether you're looking at WL or any one of the other contenders. I guess every current WL user has their own wishlist of features they would like to see enhanced and yes multiple datasets on a single plot would score quite highly I'm sure. (Though offering genuine flexibility in plotting arbitrary multiple parameters from different classes, eg temp, wind speed and rainfall on a single plot, becomes increasingly difficult to program cleanly and with ease-of-use). But for serious weather watchers it tends to be the WL reporting facility that is most often criticised IME. JGD www.weatherstations.co.uk |
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