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On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:54:28 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:


What I miss most is the synoptic charts - I wonder if they'll even be
shown on Countryfile?

That is a very far point. I think not.
Cheers Robin

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On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:54:28 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:


What I miss most is the synoptic charts - I wonder if they'll even be
shown on Countryfile?

That is a very far point. I think not.
Cheers Robin

New Time and New Graphics
 

On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:54:28 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:


What I miss most is the synoptic charts - I wonder if they'll even be
shown on Countryfile?

That is a very far point. I think not.
Cheers Robin

New Time and New Graphics
 

Philippe Gautier wrote:

I also thought that the new graphics are very hard to see (at least
the
one I saw this morning). I don't have a huge TV screen and since with

the "3D" effect, Scotland is much smaller, I could not really see
what's
going on with the rain display: the colour choice is also strange
"greyish" rain on a "brownish" background. Almost impossible to see
where the rain was forecasted. Also, where are the isobars, the
high/low
pressure positions, the wind directions??? It looks like we have less

information than before...

Philippe

I doubt whether the new weather graphics comply with disability
legislation. On my 13 year old TV the graphics are hard to see.

Here is a link to some legislation:
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/1995050.htm

e.g. look at sections 19,20,21.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1995...n_4.htm#mdiv19

There is also a 2005 act.
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2005/20050013.htm

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Philippe Gautier wrote:

I also thought that the new graphics are very hard to see (at least
the
one I saw this morning). I don't have a huge TV screen and since with

the "3D" effect, Scotland is much smaller, I could not really see
what's
going on with the rain display: the colour choice is also strange
"greyish" rain on a "brownish" background. Almost impossible to see
where the rain was forecasted. Also, where are the isobars, the
high/low
pressure positions, the wind directions??? It looks like we have less

information than before...

Philippe

I doubt whether the new weather graphics comply with disability
legislation. On my 13 year old TV the graphics are hard to see.

Here is a link to some legislation:
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/1995050.htm

e.g. look at sections 19,20,21.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1995...n_4.htm#mdiv19

There is also a 2005 act.
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2005/20050013.htm

New Time and New Graphics
 

Philippe Gautier wrote:

I also thought that the new graphics are very hard to see (at least
the
one I saw this morning). I don't have a huge TV screen and since with

the "3D" effect, Scotland is much smaller, I could not really see
what's
going on with the rain display: the colour choice is also strange
"greyish" rain on a "brownish" background. Almost impossible to see
where the rain was forecasted. Also, where are the isobars, the
high/low
pressure positions, the wind directions??? It looks like we have less

information than before...

Philippe

I doubt whether the new weather graphics comply with disability
legislation. On my 13 year old TV the graphics are hard to see.

Here is a link to some legislation:
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/1995050.htm

e.g. look at sections 19,20,21.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1995...n_4.htm#mdiv19

There is also a 2005 act.
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2005/20050013.htm

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In uk.sci.weather on Tue, 17 May 2005 at 21:09:41, Robin Nicholson wrote
:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:54:28 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:


What I miss most is the synoptic charts - I wonder if they'll even be
shown on Countryfile?

That is a very far point. I think not.

I hope you are wrong.

I can see why the BBC might dumb down their ordinary weather forecasts
(even though I think they are wrong to do so), but why would they do
that for their Sunday long-range one?
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

New Time and New Graphics
 

In uk.sci.weather on Tue, 17 May 2005 at 21:09:41, Robin Nicholson wrote
:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:54:28 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:


What I miss most is the synoptic charts - I wonder if they'll even be
shown on Countryfile?

That is a very far point. I think not.

I hope you are wrong.

I can see why the BBC might dumb down their ordinary weather forecasts
(even though I think they are wrong to do so), but why would they do
that for their Sunday long-range one?
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

New Time and New Graphics
 

In uk.sci.weather on Tue, 17 May 2005 at 21:09:41, Robin Nicholson wrote
:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 07:54:28 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:


What I miss most is the synoptic charts - I wonder if they'll even be
shown on Countryfile?

That is a very far point. I think not.

I hope you are wrong.

I can see why the BBC might dumb down their ordinary weather forecasts
(even though I think they are wrong to do so), but why would they do
that for their Sunday long-range one?
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

New Time and New Graphics
 

Paul Hyett wrote:
In uk.sci.weather on Mon, 16 May 2005 at 08:23:30, Brian Blair wrote :

My first impression was that they've mistaken the UK for the Sahara
Desert - no green anywhere.


I guess they have to use brown to provide contrast with the blue puddles
of rain.

Graham

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Paul Hyett wrote:
In uk.sci.weather on Mon, 16 May 2005 at 08:23:30, Brian Blair wrote :

My first impression was that they've mistaken the UK for the Sahara
Desert - no green anywhere.


I guess they have to use brown to provide contrast with the blue puddles
of rain.

Graham

New Time and New Graphics
 

Paul Hyett wrote:
In uk.sci.weather on Mon, 16 May 2005 at 08:23:30, Brian Blair wrote :

My first impression was that they've mistaken the UK for the Sahara
Desert - no green anywhere.


I guess they have to use brown to provide contrast with the blue puddles
of rain.

Graham

New Time and New Graphics
 

In message .com,
writes

I doubt whether the new weather graphics comply with disability
legislation. On my 13 year old TV the graphics are hard to see.

Well I didn't think I had any visual disability until I started watching
this. I kept thinking, oh come on, its always the same with something
new, but I haven't actually absorbed any relevant information yet. Ok,
maybe the old one was a bit generalised, but you could look at it
quickly and get some idea what to expect. This has so many quickly
moving patches, arrows, speckles and so on that my eyes can't keep up,
and my brain is even further behind. And is it my imagination, or are
they having to talk even faster than before to stay within their time
slot?
Sorry, big thumbs down from me.
--
Anita Evans
North Cumbria (please reply to )

New Time and New Graphics
 

In message .com,
writes

I doubt whether the new weather graphics comply with disability
legislation. On my 13 year old TV the graphics are hard to see.

Well I didn't think I had any visual disability until I started watching
this. I kept thinking, oh come on, its always the same with something
new, but I haven't actually absorbed any relevant information yet. Ok,
maybe the old one was a bit generalised, but you could look at it
quickly and get some idea what to expect. This has so many quickly
moving patches, arrows, speckles and so on that my eyes can't keep up,
and my brain is even further behind. And is it my imagination, or are
they having to talk even faster than before to stay within their time
slot?
Sorry, big thumbs down from me.
--
Anita Evans
North Cumbria (please reply to )

New Time and New Graphics
 

In message .com,
writes

I doubt whether the new weather graphics comply with disability
legislation. On my 13 year old TV the graphics are hard to see.

Well I didn't think I had any visual disability until I started watching
this. I kept thinking, oh come on, its always the same with something
new, but I haven't actually absorbed any relevant information yet. Ok,
maybe the old one was a bit generalised, but you could look at it
quickly and get some idea what to expect. This has so many quickly
moving patches, arrows, speckles and so on that my eyes can't keep up,
and my brain is even further behind. And is it my imagination, or are
they having to talk even faster than before to stay within their time
slot?
Sorry, big thumbs down from me.
--
Anita Evans
North Cumbria (please reply to )

New Time and New Graphics
 

On Wed, 18 May 2005 07:02:51 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:



I hope you are wrong.

I can see why the BBC might dumb down their ordinary weather forecasts
(even though I think they are wrong to do so), but why would they do
that for their Sunday long-range one?

I think they are highly unlikely to make an exception BUT I did read
somewhere today that they might use them now and then when an
especially deep depression heads our way.
I recall many an occasion when Mr Fish (and others) pointed to a
depression and said something like 'It does not look much now but just
see how it develops"
In fact, I can recall a period when the ONLY thing they started
several Countryfile forecasts with was a run of the pressure patterns
for the week- a year ago?. Just the isobars too! AFAIUI the method of
delivery ie choice of graphics, was the decision of the duty
presenter.
I will end by repeating that both the main Geography textbooks we use
for A level uses synoptic charts and I can easily produce a few recent
papers from the AS syllabus that require basic synoptic analysis!
Cheers Robin

New Time and New Graphics
 

On Wed, 18 May 2005 07:02:51 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:



I hope you are wrong.

I can see why the BBC might dumb down their ordinary weather forecasts
(even though I think they are wrong to do so), but why would they do
that for their Sunday long-range one?

I think they are highly unlikely to make an exception BUT I did read
somewhere today that they might use them now and then when an
especially deep depression heads our way.
I recall many an occasion when Mr Fish (and others) pointed to a
depression and said something like 'It does not look much now but just
see how it develops"
In fact, I can recall a period when the ONLY thing they started
several Countryfile forecasts with was a run of the pressure patterns
for the week- a year ago?. Just the isobars too! AFAIUI the method of
delivery ie choice of graphics, was the decision of the duty
presenter.
I will end by repeating that both the main Geography textbooks we use
for A level uses synoptic charts and I can easily produce a few recent
papers from the AS syllabus that require basic synoptic analysis!
Cheers Robin

New Time and New Graphics
 

On Wed, 18 May 2005 07:02:51 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:



I hope you are wrong.

I can see why the BBC might dumb down their ordinary weather forecasts
(even though I think they are wrong to do so), but why would they do
that for their Sunday long-range one?

I think they are highly unlikely to make an exception BUT I did read
somewhere today that they might use them now and then when an
especially deep depression heads our way.
I recall many an occasion when Mr Fish (and others) pointed to a
depression and said something like 'It does not look much now but just
see how it develops"
In fact, I can recall a period when the ONLY thing they started
several Countryfile forecasts with was a run of the pressure patterns
for the week- a year ago?. Just the isobars too! AFAIUI the method of
delivery ie choice of graphics, was the decision of the duty
presenter.
I will end by repeating that both the main Geography textbooks we use
for A level uses synoptic charts and I can easily produce a few recent
papers from the AS syllabus that require basic synoptic analysis!
Cheers Robin

New Time and New Graphics
 

In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 18 May 2005 at 08:26:22, Graham P Davis wrote
:

I guess they have to use brown to provide contrast with the blue puddles
of rain.

One the subject of blue puddles of rain - WTF happened to them, its been
bone dry here in Cheltenham...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

New Time and New Graphics
 

In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 18 May 2005 at 08:26:22, Graham P Davis wrote
:

I guess they have to use brown to provide contrast with the blue puddles
of rain.

One the subject of blue puddles of rain - WTF happened to them, its been
bone dry here in Cheltenham...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

New Time and New Graphics
 

In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 18 May 2005 at 08:26:22, Graham P Davis wrote
:

I guess they have to use brown to provide contrast with the blue puddles
of rain.

One the subject of blue puddles of rain - WTF happened to them, its been
bone dry here in Cheltenham...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham