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Tudor Hughes May 18th 05 12:36 AM

New BBC graphics
 
Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.
What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake? How can a perspective
3D presentation help? All areas outside the immediate UK are excluded
so how can the weather be put in any context and how can this possibly
help the public understanding of weather forecasts?
The BBC airheads (and I don't mean weather enthusiasts) ought to be
ashamed of themselves for this cretinous nonsense and should try and
grow up. It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.


Dave Ludlow May 18th 05 12:51 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.
What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake? How can a perspective
3D presentation help? All areas outside the immediate UK are excluded
so how can the weather be put in any context and how can this possibly
help the public understanding of weather forecasts?
The BBC airheads (and I don't mean weather enthusiasts) ought to be
ashamed of themselves for this cretinous nonsense and should try and
grow up. It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.

I've just watched it again, too and my thoughts are the same as yours:
it's stupidity personnified.

I don't like the colour scheme, 3D as implemented, lack of pressure
and frontal information, narrow focus on the UK, perspective used
(poor Scotland!), imprecise and misleading cloud and rainfall
indicators, zooming around (which adds nothing to the initial
stationary image of the UK)... I could go on. In fact, I cannot think
of ONE improvement over the previous system - compared to a dozen
poorer aspects. And the timestamps on the weather "movies" are
impossible to read whilst studying the actual weather on the maps.

There is now no advantage in watching BBC TV weather forecasts
compared to ITV or any other channel so in future, I won't bother and
I shall be writing to the BBC to tell them so. Although I haven't
watched Sky Weather for some time, I guess that's now the best of the
lot. Francis, here I come!

--
Dave

Dave Ludlow May 18th 05 12:51 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.
What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake? How can a perspective
3D presentation help? All areas outside the immediate UK are excluded
so how can the weather be put in any context and how can this possibly
help the public understanding of weather forecasts?
The BBC airheads (and I don't mean weather enthusiasts) ought to be
ashamed of themselves for this cretinous nonsense and should try and
grow up. It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.

I've just watched it again, too and my thoughts are the same as yours:
it's stupidity personnified.

I don't like the colour scheme, 3D as implemented, lack of pressure
and frontal information, narrow focus on the UK, perspective used
(poor Scotland!), imprecise and misleading cloud and rainfall
indicators, zooming around (which adds nothing to the initial
stationary image of the UK)... I could go on. In fact, I cannot think
of ONE improvement over the previous system - compared to a dozen
poorer aspects. And the timestamps on the weather "movies" are
impossible to read whilst studying the actual weather on the maps.

There is now no advantage in watching BBC TV weather forecasts
compared to ITV or any other channel so in future, I won't bother and
I shall be writing to the BBC to tell them so. Although I haven't
watched Sky Weather for some time, I guess that's now the best of the
lot. Francis, here I come!

--
Dave

Dave Ludlow May 18th 05 12:51 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.
What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake? How can a perspective
3D presentation help? All areas outside the immediate UK are excluded
so how can the weather be put in any context and how can this possibly
help the public understanding of weather forecasts?
The BBC airheads (and I don't mean weather enthusiasts) ought to be
ashamed of themselves for this cretinous nonsense and should try and
grow up. It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.

I've just watched it again, too and my thoughts are the same as yours:
it's stupidity personnified.

I don't like the colour scheme, 3D as implemented, lack of pressure
and frontal information, narrow focus on the UK, perspective used
(poor Scotland!), imprecise and misleading cloud and rainfall
indicators, zooming around (which adds nothing to the initial
stationary image of the UK)... I could go on. In fact, I cannot think
of ONE improvement over the previous system - compared to a dozen
poorer aspects. And the timestamps on the weather "movies" are
impossible to read whilst studying the actual weather on the maps.

There is now no advantage in watching BBC TV weather forecasts
compared to ITV or any other channel so in future, I won't bother and
I shall be writing to the BBC to tell them so. Although I haven't
watched Sky Weather for some time, I guess that's now the best of the
lot. Francis, here I come!

--
Dave

Michael McNeil May 18th 05 03:30 AM

New BBC graphics
 
"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message


Although I haven't watched Sky Weather for some time, I guess that's
now the best of the lot.


Just off to see if they are up to much on their weather site. Last time
I bothered looking -several years ago, the site was an abortion.

Bloody hell!

It sent me to Kiwiland:
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php

Worse swear words me:

http://sky.wsieurope.com/weather/uk.shtml

I shan't be buying into that load of crap. Ceefax is better.

So it's either stick with the license fee or learn German.



--
Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

Michael McNeil May 18th 05 03:30 AM

New BBC graphics
 
"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message


Although I haven't watched Sky Weather for some time, I guess that's
now the best of the lot.


Just off to see if they are up to much on their weather site. Last time
I bothered looking -several years ago, the site was an abortion.

Bloody hell!

It sent me to Kiwiland:
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php

Worse swear words me:

http://sky.wsieurope.com/weather/uk.shtml

I shan't be buying into that load of crap. Ceefax is better.

So it's either stick with the license fee or learn German.



--
Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

Michael McNeil May 18th 05 03:30 AM

New BBC graphics
 
"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message


Although I haven't watched Sky Weather for some time, I guess that's
now the best of the lot.


Just off to see if they are up to much on their weather site. Last time
I bothered looking -several years ago, the site was an abortion.

Bloody hell!

It sent me to Kiwiland:
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php

Worse swear words me:

http://sky.wsieurope.com/weather/uk.shtml

I shan't be buying into that load of crap. Ceefax is better.

So it's either stick with the license fee or learn German.



--
Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

Robin Nicholson May 18th 05 05:51 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.


Agreed: the fact that synoptics have gone makes it very difficult
using the material for A level teaching (Geography) that specifically
uses basic synoptics.
Cheers Robin

Robin Nicholson May 18th 05 05:51 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.


Agreed: the fact that synoptics have gone makes it very difficult
using the material for A level teaching (Geography) that specifically
uses basic synoptics.
Cheers Robin

Robin Nicholson May 18th 05 05:51 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.


Agreed: the fact that synoptics have gone makes it very difficult
using the material for A level teaching (Geography) that specifically
uses basic synoptics.
Cheers Robin

Dave Liquorice May 18th 05 07:06 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, Tudor Hughes wrote:

What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake?


I doesn't move, so the X-Box generation with the attention span of a
goldfish get bored. The fact that the movement detracts from the
presentation of information isn't relevant to the X-box generation as
they much prefer style over content.

How can a perspective 3D presentation help?


I donno and I noticed another slightly weird effect due to it last
night. When the presenter moves their arm hand from the south to the
north the fact it doesn't get smaller as it moves further away is
really rather disturbing. Perceptually their arm appears to get
bigger. Yet another vomit making feature...

It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.


Agreed. And when night falls and it gets dark (but strangely you still
have "shadows" from the clouds) it all gets very dim and dull. The
moon is about half at the moment so I guess shadows are allowed but
will we still get them with a new moon?

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




Dave Liquorice May 18th 05 07:06 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, Tudor Hughes wrote:

What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake?


I doesn't move, so the X-Box generation with the attention span of a
goldfish get bored. The fact that the movement detracts from the
presentation of information isn't relevant to the X-box generation as
they much prefer style over content.

How can a perspective 3D presentation help?


I donno and I noticed another slightly weird effect due to it last
night. When the presenter moves their arm hand from the south to the
north the fact it doesn't get smaller as it moves further away is
really rather disturbing. Perceptually their arm appears to get
bigger. Yet another vomit making feature...

It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.


Agreed. And when night falls and it gets dark (but strangely you still
have "shadows" from the clouds) it all gets very dim and dull. The
moon is about half at the moment so I guess shadows are allowed but
will we still get them with a new moon?

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




Dave Liquorice May 18th 05 07:06 AM

New BBC graphics
 
On 17 May 2005 17:36:13 -0700, Tudor Hughes wrote:

What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake?


I doesn't move, so the X-Box generation with the attention span of a
goldfish get bored. The fact that the movement detracts from the
presentation of information isn't relevant to the X-box generation as
they much prefer style over content.

How can a perspective 3D presentation help?


I donno and I noticed another slightly weird effect due to it last
night. When the presenter moves their arm hand from the south to the
north the fact it doesn't get smaller as it moves further away is
really rather disturbing. Perceptually their arm appears to get
bigger. Yet another vomit making feature...

It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.


Agreed. And when night falls and it gets dark (but strangely you still
have "shadows" from the clouds) it all gets very dim and dull. The
moon is about half at the moment so I guess shadows are allowed but
will we still get them with a new moon?

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




Peter Hayes May 18th 05 09:37 AM

New BBC graphics
 
Tudor Hughes wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.
What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake? How can a perspective
3D presentation help? All areas outside the immediate UK are excluded
so how can the weather be put in any context and how can this possibly
help the public understanding of weather forecasts?
The BBC airheads (and I don't mean weather enthusiasts) ought to be
ashamed of themselves for this cretinous nonsense and should try and
grow up. It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.


It's hit Page 3 of the Daily Mail.

--

Peter

Peter Hayes May 18th 05 09:37 AM

New BBC graphics
 
Tudor Hughes wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.
What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake? How can a perspective
3D presentation help? All areas outside the immediate UK are excluded
so how can the weather be put in any context and how can this possibly
help the public understanding of weather forecasts?
The BBC airheads (and I don't mean weather enthusiasts) ought to be
ashamed of themselves for this cretinous nonsense and should try and
grow up. It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.


It's hit Page 3 of the Daily Mail.

--

Peter

Peter Hayes May 18th 05 09:37 AM

New BBC graphics
 
Tudor Hughes wrote:

Just watched 'em - they're as bad as everyone says. In fact I'd
say idiotic. They seem to have gone for the 8-12 age range except that
any earnest young kid of that age would learn nothing about the weather
whatsoever from this Disneyfication of the forecasts.
What's wrong with a map, for goodness' sake? How can a perspective
3D presentation help? All areas outside the immediate UK are excluded
so how can the weather be put in any context and how can this possibly
help the public understanding of weather forecasts?
The BBC airheads (and I don't mean weather enthusiasts) ought to be
ashamed of themselves for this cretinous nonsense and should try and
grow up. It is pure technological gimmickry for its own sake. It adds
nothing and subtracts quite a lot.


It's hit Page 3 of the Daily Mail.

--

Peter


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